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Edmund Burke
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William F. Buckley
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Dostoevsky
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Evola
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De Maistre
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Disraeli
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Postby Chinese Peoples » Fri May 13, 2016 10:03 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:
>Corporations
>Right wing

Image

What is this, 1986?

Modern Corporate America is the left.


You do not get to heap that shit on us now that you've realized how awful they are.

Yeah, I'll all for right wing now. Until Oliver Twist are our names.
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Postby The East Marches » Fri May 13, 2016 10:11 pm

Chinese Peoples wrote:Equity is not horrifying, because in this case the wife didn't understand English and wasn't able to enforce his disabled husband's right.


Then they shouldn't have been stupid enough to sign the papers. You can't just go ahead and sign something willy nilly without being able to read it. God damn, this is why we teach reading comprehensions in schools. To purposely avoid this from happening. You sign the paper, you are responsible for fulling and agreeing by the terms of the contract. "I didn't know what was in the contract" isn't a valid excuse in the United States.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjywd6ZTMUQ

My reaction European style contract law.

Chinese Peoples wrote:The amount of money needed to restore her emotion to the state as it was before.


But how do you quantitatively identify how much emotions are worth? We do the same with working days for disabilities and can infact put a price on human life in America. Those are both cake compared to emotions. How do you do something like that? How do you determine somebody's emotional state before? Especially if it is an unstable person. You can't fix a broken person.

Chinese Peoples wrote:I see no problem with the press censoring itself. Let the press form a group and decide what is permissible and not amongst themselves. If even most of the press believe that something is not newsworthy, then it's probably not.


I was referring to the fact that some police and legal departments of the government don't count independent media sources as real journalists. Basically saying they aren't entitled to hide their sources or publish damaging things. Thats wrong. If a new organization decides not to run something, that is their decision of their own free will. What I am talking about is actively choosing who gets what journalistic protections based on arbitrary standards of what makes a "journalist". Channels like Young Turks or even on the otherside, France 24 English, which have no real media setup in America beyond a youtube studio, would be denied journalist protections.
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Postby The East Marches » Fri May 13, 2016 10:25 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:
>Corporations
>Right wing

Image

What is this, 1986?

Modern Corporate America is the left.


You do not get to heap that shit on us now that you've realized how awful they are.


Whoa, I've been bitching about big banks and government colluding for a solid 10 years now.

I was going to do a Navy Seal copypasta for loltarians but I'm too lazy.
Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Bogdanov Vishniac » Fri May 13, 2016 10:48 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:It's the triumph of the right-wing in America.

All hail our new overlords, the corporations.


>Corporations
>Right wing

Image

What is this, 1986?

Modern Corporate America is the left.


Not really. The Koch brothers and a lot of other companies in the resource extraction biz are pretty rightist, at least in the American scheme of things. Other companies like Facebook or Amazon or Apple tend to be socially liberal in that they support things like same-sex marriage, but that does not mean that they're leftist. Far from it, seeing as the ascendant 'Californian ideology' is actually pretty right-libertarian.
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Postby Dushan » Fri May 13, 2016 10:54 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
White Chrobatia wrote:Why do people dislike Evola?


Well for me it was because he was a pretentious asshole with a fragile ego who insulted a lot of better philosophers.


I on the other hand, do feel strong sympathies with Evola and parts of his World View. However I come to different conclusions than he does, especially but not only in the field of Politics.

I started off with reading "Riding the Tiger" where I found in the later parts (6-8 to be exactly) many passages which spoke to the very depth of my heart. My feeling was like "This is my Guy!".

I then continued with "Men among Ruins" but reading it felt as walking through a thick jungle of clutter, in the search of the substance which was present underneath but only occassionally showing itself.
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Postby Chinese Peoples » Fri May 13, 2016 11:20 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Chinese Peoples wrote:Equity is not horrifying, because in this case the wife didn't understand English and wasn't able to enforce his disabled husband's right.


Then they shouldn't have been stupid enough to sign the papers. You can't just go ahead and sign something willy nilly without being able to read it. God damn, this is why we teach reading comprehensions in schools. To purposely avoid this from happening. You sign the paper, you are responsible for fulling and agreeing by the terms of the contract. "I didn't know what was in the contract" isn't a valid excuse in the United States.

A contract shouldn't be enforceable if it's unconscionable.
The East Marches wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjywd6ZTMUQ

My reaction European style contract law.
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The East Marches wrote:
Chinese Peoples wrote:The amount of money needed to restore her emotion to the state as it was before.


But how do you quantitatively identify how much emotions are worth? We do the same with working days for disabilities and can infact put a price on human life in America. Those are both cake compared to emotions. How do you do something like that? How do you determine somebody's emotional state before? Especially if it is an unstable person. You can't fix a broken person.

If it can't be assessed, then damages can't be claimed at law. Equitable jurisdiction again comes to the rescue. :)
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Chinese Peoples wrote:I see no problem with the press censoring itself. Let the press form a group and decide what is permissible and not amongst themselves. If even most of the press believe that something is not newsworthy, then it's probably not.


I was referring to the fact that some police and legal departments of the government don't count independent media sources as real journalists. Basically saying they aren't entitled to hide their sources or publish damaging things. Thats wrong. If a new organization decides not to run something, that is their decision of their own free will. What I am talking about is actively choosing who gets what journalistic protections based on arbitrary standards of what makes a "journalist". Channels like Young Turks or even on the otherside, France 24 English, which have no real media setup in America beyond a youtube studio, would be denied journalist protections.

I thought truth was a defence to liability? If you can prove what you print is true, I don't think there's a claim at law against that, no matter how damaging it may be, barring things that statute prohibit from publication. You can't publish a patient's health records, even if it's true, and I'm sure you know that limitations apply, like most freedoms. I don't support granting or denying journalistic protection based on the journalist; if anything needs to be screened, it's the content. Things like health records, banking account passwords, and other privileged information shouldn't be legally published, no matter how true they may be.
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Postby The East Marches » Sat May 14, 2016 4:13 am

Chinese Peoples wrote:A contract shouldn't be enforceable if it's unconscionable.


Thankfully, there only a few specific instances where that comes into play in America. I don't know if you could sell your soul and sign the contract in blood. It'd be interesting to see if that would trigger it. There is not much else that will.

Chinese Peoples wrote:If it can't be assessed, then damages can't be claimed at law. Equitable jurisdiction again comes to the rescue. :)


Jesus. You're going to trust the judgement of people on emotions and the effects of words. I-I don't know what to say in this situation. I may need to immediately begin hiring teams of lawyers to cover my ass if that ever gets accepted here. RIP my wallet.

Chinese Peoples wrote:I thought truth was a defence to liability? If you can prove what you print is true, I don't think there's a claim at law against that, no matter how damaging it may be, barring things that statute prohibit from publication. You can't publish a patient's health records, even if it's true, and I'm sure you know that limitations apply, like most freedoms. I don't support granting or denying journalistic protection based on the journalist; if anything needs to be screened, it's the content. Things like health records, banking account passwords, and other privileged information shouldn't be legally published, no matter how true they may be.


No, no I was referring to journalistic protections. Like if there is a government leak about something illegal, they are not obligated to reveal their source. Thats why they were talking about "licensing" reporters. They have always opposed this because it protects whistleblowers. By removing that protection, journalists would not have as many sources as most of them would be injail. Potentially the journalist too for revealing classified information.
Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Great Kauthar » Sat May 14, 2016 4:46 am

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
That must say something about the opposition then.


No actually it only reflects on yourselves. Us liberals tend to use things like science, statistics, and history to make our points.

hurr durr us liberals are so much better than everyone else loooooool
lets ignore the fact the US just gets bad with a republican president, but even worse with a democrat president. Your scientific evidence is always from a fedora tipping liberal. And history? LIBERALS ARE JUST WATERED DOWN SOCIALISTS AND SOCIALISM FAILS EVERY TIME.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sat May 14, 2016 5:24 am

Great Kauthar wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
No actually it only reflects on yourselves. Us liberals tend to use things like science, statistics, and history to make our points.

hurr durr us liberals are so much better than everyone else loooooool
lets ignore the fact the US just gets bad with a republican president, but even worse with a democrat president. Your scientific evidence is always from a fedora tipping liberal. And history? LIBERALS ARE JUST WATERED DOWN SOCIALISTS AND SOCIALISM FAILS EVERY TIME.


Democrats aren't even left wing, they're center-right for the most part.

Socialism has a better chance of succeeding than Austrian school economics. "Rothbardean capitalist," lol.
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Postby Great Kauthar » Sat May 14, 2016 5:31 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:hurr durr us liberals are so much better than everyone else loooooool
lets ignore the fact the US just gets bad with a republican president, but even worse with a democrat president. Your scientific evidence is always from a fedora tipping liberal. And history? LIBERALS ARE JUST WATERED DOWN SOCIALISTS AND SOCIALISM FAILS EVERY TIME.


Democrats aren't even left wing, they're center-right for the most part.

Socialism has a better chance of succeeding than Austrian school economics. "Rothbardean capitalist," lol.

haven't changed that I'm a Hayekian capitalist now
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sat May 14, 2016 5:35 am

Great Kauthar wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
Democrats aren't even left wing, they're center-right for the most part.

Socialism has a better chance of succeeding than Austrian school economics. "Rothbardean capitalist," lol.

haven't changed that I'm a Hayekian capitalist now


Ideologies aren't clothes, Kauthar. You don't change them every day.

Also, the irony that you support a guy who wrote The Road to Serfdom is off the charts.

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Postby The Greater Aryan Race » Sat May 14, 2016 5:48 am

Great Kauthar wrote:hurr durr us liberals are so much better than everyone else loooooool
lets ignore the fact the US just gets bad with a republican president, but even worse with a democrat president. Your scientific evidence is always from a fedora tipping liberal. And history? LIBERALS ARE JUST WATERED DOWN SOCIALISTS AND SOCIALISM FAILS EVERY TIME.

*cough*FDR*cough*worldwar2*cough*
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Postby The East Marches » Sat May 14, 2016 5:54 am

The Greater Aryan Race wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:hurr durr us liberals are so much better than everyone else loooooool
lets ignore the fact the US just gets bad with a republican president, but even worse with a democrat president. Your scientific evidence is always from a fedora tipping liberal. And history? LIBERALS ARE JUST WATERED DOWN SOCIALISTS AND SOCIALISM FAILS EVERY TIME.

*cough*FDR*cough*worldwar2*cough*


FDR seriously fucked up on a few things. Namely trusting Ivan to honor his agreements. Its on him that half of Europe was enslaved under Communism. We had to spend the better part of half a century sorting that out. Not to mention his disastrous economic policies that prolonged the great depression or his backing of the Southern Democrats. He was no saint, he became one due to wartime propaganda.
Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Urmanian » Sat May 14, 2016 6:46 am

Great Kauthar wrote: And history? LIBERALS ARE JUST WATERED DOWN SOCIALISTS AND SOCIALISM FAILS EVERY TIME.

every time until you like it
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Postby The East Marches » Sat May 14, 2016 6:49 am

Urmanian wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote: And history? LIBERALS ARE JUST WATERED DOWN SOCIALISTS AND SOCIALISM FAILS EVERY TIME.

every time until you like it


Sucks to be a loser right?
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Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Calimera II » Sat May 14, 2016 7:46 am

Interesting to see that the PVV is leading the polls in the Netherlands. It is also interesting to see that the right-wing parties get more than 63% of the votes.

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Postby Great Kauthar » Sat May 14, 2016 8:38 am

Calimera II wrote:Interesting to see that the PVV is leading the polls in the Netherlands. It is also interesting to see that the right-wing parties get more than 63% of the votes.

PVV=(grey)
(Image)
left axis = seats

Islam can't fool the free world anymore. Geert Wilders will become a hero to the Dutch people when he saves them from Islam.

Urmanian wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote: And history? LIBERALS ARE JUST WATERED DOWN SOCIALISTS AND SOCIALISM FAILS EVERY TIME.

every time until you like it

We should've let Hitler win in the Eastern Front.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sat May 14, 2016 9:27 am

Great Kauthar wrote:

We should've let Hitler win in the Eastern Front.


One of my best friends is Russian, and I'd prefer his grandparents not dying brutal deaths via Generalplan ost, so no.

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Postby Annorax » Sat May 14, 2016 9:32 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:hurr durr us liberals are so much better than everyone else loooooool
lets ignore the fact the US just gets bad with a republican president, but even worse with a democrat president. Your scientific evidence is always from a fedora tipping liberal. And history? LIBERALS ARE JUST WATERED DOWN SOCIALISTS AND SOCIALISM FAILS EVERY TIME.


Democrats aren't even left wing, they're center-right for the most part.

Socialism has a better chance of succeeding than Austrian school economics. "Rothbardean capitalist," lol.



This is hilarious!!! Democrats are pretty much full of radical leftists from Obama (Fabian socialist) to Bernie Sanders (30's style street radical).
They used to be center-right, sort of, but those days are long gone and all the Blue Dog Democrats have been run out of the party.

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Postby Jumalariik » Sat May 14, 2016 9:52 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:We should've let Hitler win in the Eastern Front.


One of my best friends is Russian, and I'd prefer his grandparents not dying brutal deaths via Generalplan ost, so no.


I agree. The Nazis were so bad when they killed 6000 Poles in Katyn forest. The Nazis were so bad when they starved 3-7 million Ukrainians in 1932-33. The Nazis were so bad when they illegally occupied Eastern European nations for 50 years.

Oh.... wait....

And the nazis were the ones who sent Destruction Battalions to kill Baltic people.

Oh.... Wait....

I understand though. Clearly your best friend's grandparents matter more than the millions of people who dealt with Soviet occupation until 1991. :) :clap: They must be the most important people in the world.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat May 14, 2016 9:59 am

Jumalariik wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
One of my best friends is Russian, and I'd prefer his grandparents not dying brutal deaths via Generalplan ost, so no.


I agree. The Nazis were so bad when they killed 6000 Poles in Katyn forest. The Nazis were so bad when they starved 3-7 million Ukrainians in 1932-33. The Nazis were so bad when they illegally occupied Eastern European nations for 50 years.

Oh.... wait....

And the nazis were the ones who sent Destruction Battalions to kill Baltic people.

Oh.... Wait....

I understand though. Clearly your best friend's grandparents matter more than the millions of people who dealt with Soviet occupation until 1991. :) :clap: They must be the most important people in the world.

Have you ever heard of Generalplan Ost? Because that's what she was talking about.
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Postby Chinese Peoples » Sat May 14, 2016 10:06 am

The East Marches wrote:
Chinese Peoples wrote:A contract shouldn't be enforceable if it's unconscionable.


Thankfully, there only a few specific instances where that comes into play in America. I don't know if you could sell your soul and sign the contract in blood. It'd be interesting to see if that would trigger it. There is not much else that will.

If you're talking about a contract à la Faustus, that's not enforceable due to a lack of consideration :P
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Chinese Peoples wrote:If it can't be assessed, then damages can't be claimed at law. Equitable jurisdiction again comes to the rescue. :)


Jesus. You're going to trust the judgement of people on emotions and the effects of words. I-I don't know what to say in this situation. I may need to immediately begin hiring teams of lawyers to cover my ass if that ever gets accepted here. RIP my wallet.

:(
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Chinese Peoples wrote:I thought truth was a defence to liability? If you can prove what you print is true, I don't think there's a claim at law against that, no matter how damaging it may be, barring things that statute prohibit from publication. You can't publish a patient's health records, even if it's true, and I'm sure you know that limitations apply, like most freedoms. I don't support granting or denying journalistic protection based on the journalist; if anything needs to be screened, it's the content. Things like health records, banking account passwords, and other privileged information shouldn't be legally published, no matter how true they may be.


No, no I was referring to journalistic protections. Like if there is a government leak about something illegal, they are not obligated to reveal their source. Thats why they were talking about "licensing" reporters. They have always opposed this because it protects whistleblowers. By removing that protection, journalists would not have as many sources as most of them would be injail. Potentially the journalist too for revealing classified information.

But you shouldn't release classified information; they're classified for a reason, like defence. Do you want journalists to reveal the ultra secret new nuclear bomb blueprints to the Soviets? :P

I think most information is classified for an adequate reason; some might not, but it's not a cause to give journalists a green light to publish all classified information. Much of information can go into foreign hands if it reaches the domestic population.
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Postby Urmanian » Sat May 14, 2016 10:06 am

Jumalariik wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
One of my best friends is Russian, and I'd prefer his grandparents not dying brutal deaths via Generalplan ost, so no.


I agree. The Nazis were so bad when they killed 6000 Poles in Katyn forest. The Nazis were so bad when they starved 3-7 million Ukrainians in 1932-33. The Nazis were so bad when they illegally occupied Eastern European nations for 50 years.

Oh.... wait....

And the nazis were the ones who sent Destruction Battalions to kill Baltic people.

Oh.... Wait....

I understand though. Clearly your best friend's grandparents matter more than the millions of people who dealt with Soviet occupation until 1991. :) :clap: They must be the most important people in the world.

And if Hitler won on the Eastern Front it would somehow be better? Millions more would be murdered.
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Postby Conscentia » Sat May 14, 2016 10:07 am

Jumalariik wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:One of my best friends is Russian, and I'd prefer his grandparents not dying brutal deaths via Generalplan ost, so no.

I agree. The Nazis were so bad when they killed 6000 Poles in Katyn forest. The Nazis were so bad when they starved 3-7 million Ukrainians in 1932-33. The Nazis were so bad when they illegally occupied Eastern European nations for 50 years.
Oh.... wait....
And the nazis were the ones who sent Destruction Battalions to kill Baltic people.
Oh.... Wait....
I understand though. Clearly your best friend's grandparents matter more than the millions of people who dealt with Soviet occupation until 1991. :) :clap: They must be the most important people in the world.

Are you seriously saying that the influence of the Soviet Union was worse than Nazi plans for Eastern Europe? Really? You realise the Nazi plan was essentially the complete extermination of the populations not exiled during the conquest?

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Postby Chinese Peoples » Sat May 14, 2016 10:13 am

Conscentia wrote:
Jumalariik wrote:I agree. The Nazis were so bad when they killed 6000 Poles in Katyn forest. The Nazis were so bad when they starved 3-7 million Ukrainians in 1932-33. The Nazis were so bad when they illegally occupied Eastern European nations for 50 years.
Oh.... wait....
And the nazis were the ones who sent Destruction Battalions to kill Baltic people.
Oh.... Wait....
I understand though. Clearly your best friend's grandparents matter more than the millions of people who dealt with Soviet occupation until 1991. :) :clap: They must be the most important people in the world.

Are you seriously saying that the influence of the Soviet Union was worse than Nazi plans for Eastern Europe? Really? You realise the Nazi plan was essentially the complete extermination of the populations not exiled during the conquest?

It's probably pointless to argue with Kautharr or Jumalariik. Their logic is that they'd be find under Nazi occupation, so the whole Nazi occupation is fine. :bow:

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