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Edmund Burke
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15%
William F. Buckley
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9%
Dostoevsky
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8%
Evola
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10%
De Maistre
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4%
Disraeli
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9%
Other
187
45%
 
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Fri May 13, 2016 1:37 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
Zoice wrote:Theocracy is one of the worst systems, up there with rolling dice, and electing Trump.

oh because socialism has worked so well hasn't it.


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Babe, if you think everything that isn't whatever brand of odd reactionism you espouse is socialism you need to take a Government class ASAP.
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Postby Liberaxia » Fri May 13, 2016 2:05 pm

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Supporting Trump and calling oneself a Rothbardian takes the cake. I've always regarded those Bircher-esque views as more of oddities than real political ideologies. Like the sovereign citizen movement. Or the idiotic theocrats who rant about the state while looking to implement their own.

I'm a Hayekian Capitalist, and there is nothing wrong with Theocracy so quiet.


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Postby The Kievan People » Fri May 13, 2016 2:08 pm

Korouse wrote:From my past readings of the Old Testament, it sounds a lot like something ISIS would use as an easy guide on how to execute someone for a specific crime.


Edgy.

But they are way more creative.
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Postby Korouse » Fri May 13, 2016 2:13 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Korouse wrote:From my past readings of the Old Testament, it sounds a lot like something ISIS would use as an easy guide on how to execute someone for a specific crime.


Edgy.

But they are way more creative.

The punishments aren't really that detailed, but I'm pretty sure stealing was "get your hands cut off" and homosexuality was beheading.
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Postby Crimiea » Fri May 13, 2016 2:15 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:oh because socialism has worked so well hasn't it.


:rofl:
Babe, if you think everything that isn't whatever brand of odd reactionism you espouse is socialism you need to take a Government class ASAP.


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Postby Dushan » Fri May 13, 2016 2:50 pm

38 Votes for Evola. Interesting to see that he has followers/supporters here.
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Postby White Chrobatia » Fri May 13, 2016 5:10 pm

Dushan wrote:38 Votes for Evola. Interesting to see that he has followers/supporters here.

Why do people dislike Evola?
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Fri May 13, 2016 5:11 pm

White Chrobatia wrote:
Dushan wrote:38 Votes for Evola. Interesting to see that he has followers/supporters here.

Why do people dislike Evola?


Cause he was pants on head insane.
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri May 13, 2016 5:14 pm

Dushan wrote:38 Votes for Evola. Interesting to see that he has followers/supporters here.


Who's Evola?

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Postby White Chrobatia » Fri May 13, 2016 5:15 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
White Chrobatia wrote:Why do people dislike Evola?


Cause he was pants on head insane.

I mean, so were a lot of people that had large followings.

I quickly looked him up, are any of his books worth reading?
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Fri May 13, 2016 5:20 pm

White Chrobatia wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Cause he was pants on head insane.

I mean, so were a lot of people that had large followings.

I quickly looked him up, are any of his books worth reading?


As the resident liberal degenerate, I would say no. But if your into weird msytic far-right ideology, then go ahead be my guest.
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri May 13, 2016 5:23 pm

A quick read makes me realize how... Trendy he was and is.

The definitive philosopher for those that don't want to be called Fascist, but still want to be right-wing.

He sounds like a monarchist, what with his advocacy of the aristocracy, which, granted, Hitler and Mussolini opposed, but only those that weren't themselves Fascists and loyal to the state.

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Postby The East Marches » Fri May 13, 2016 5:25 pm

White Chrobatia wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Cause he was pants on head insane.

I mean, so were a lot of people that had large followings.

I quickly looked him up, are any of his books worth reading?


They are interesting but I thought they were rather dry. I read "Men among the Ruins" and "Ride the Tiger".

Its been years since I've read them though.
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Postby White Chrobatia » Fri May 13, 2016 5:26 pm

The Rich Port wrote:A quick read makes me realize how... Trendy he was and is.

The definitive philosopher for those that don't want to be called Fascist, but still want to be right-wing.

He sounds like a monarchist, what with his advocacy of the aristocracy, which, granted, Hitler and Mussolini opposed, but only those that weren't themselves Fascists and loyal to the state.

What I really want to do is read more about the right and see if it's worth subscribing to. I'm currently kind of centrist bordering on mild libertarian, but I've been trying to educate myself more about both sides of the coin to see which I think is better.
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Postby Dushan » Fri May 13, 2016 5:28 pm

White Chrobatia wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Cause he was pants on head insane.

I mean, so were a lot of people that had large followings.

I quickly looked him up, are any of his books worth reading?


I found his Books very difficult to read. Hard to get. But it might be worth it. I found some of his Philosophical Views very interesting.
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Postby White Chrobatia » Fri May 13, 2016 5:28 pm

The East Marches wrote:
White Chrobatia wrote:I mean, so were a lot of people that had large followings.

I quickly looked him up, are any of his books worth reading?


They are interesting but I thought they were rather dry. I read "Men among the Ruins" and "Ride the Tiger".

Its been years since I've read them though.

Well, thanks :) I'll check those two out.

And honestly probably better than what I've had to read otherwise. I forced myself to read the Communist Manifesto and it was just dreadfully boring
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Postby The East Marches » Fri May 13, 2016 5:29 pm

White Chrobatia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:A quick read makes me realize how... Trendy he was and is.

The definitive philosopher for those that don't want to be called Fascist, but still want to be right-wing.

He sounds like a monarchist, what with his advocacy of the aristocracy, which, granted, Hitler and Mussolini opposed, but only those that weren't themselves Fascists and loyal to the state.

What I really want to do is read more about the right and see if it's worth subscribing to. I'm currently kind of centrist bordering on mild libertarian, but I've been trying to educate myself more about both sides of the coin to see which I think is better.


I'd consider starting out at an easier level. Thats a deep rabbit hole you'll be going into. God speed.
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Postby White Chrobatia » Fri May 13, 2016 5:34 pm

The East Marches wrote:
White Chrobatia wrote:What I really want to do is read more about the right and see if it's worth subscribing to. I'm currently kind of centrist bordering on mild libertarian, but I've been trying to educate myself more about both sides of the coin to see which I think is better.


I'd consider starting out at an easier level. Thats a deep rabbit hole you'll be going into. God speed.

I'm actually reading some Edmund Burke right now, I found Reflections on the Revolution in France in my school's library. I was just curious if he was worth checking out at all since I'm pretty sure I'd have to buy it since it doesn't seem any university library would be holding stuff written by him
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Postby The East Marches » Fri May 13, 2016 5:43 pm

White Chrobatia wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
I'd consider starting out at an easier level. Thats a deep rabbit hole you'll be going into. God speed.

I'm actually reading some Edmund Burke right now, I found Reflections on the Revolution in France in my school's library. I was just curious if he was worth checking out at all since I'm pretty sure I'd have to buy it since it doesn't seem any university library would be holding stuff written by him


I distinctly remember reading that myself. Burke makes very good points on the French Revolution. While I don't agree with some of his ideas on the organization of society, he expresses his ideas very well. I do agree on his view of mob rule and the need for explicit rights. I may be conflating that with another thing he wrote. I've read so many books they tend to blur together at this point. I remember mainly by author now.

I also liked Hobbes and Locke too. They are worth a read too. Hobbes tends to conflict with Burke in a few places but you may find it worthwhile to read because of that fact. Frederick the Great's anti-Machiavel is also very interesting.

You may not need to buy some of these. I found many on the internet in the form of free PDFs and repositories. https://www.gutenberg.org/ You may find this link useful to your endeavours.
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Postby Dushan » Fri May 13, 2016 5:43 pm

White Chrobatia wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
I'd consider starting out at an easier level. Thats a deep rabbit hole you'll be going into. God speed.

I'm actually reading some Edmund Burke right now, I found Reflections on the Revolution in France in my school's library. I was just curious if he was worth checking out at all since I'm pretty sure I'd have to buy it since it doesn't seem any university library would be holding stuff written by him


Most if not all of Evolas Books can be read on the Internet on archive.org and similar Websites. I'd recommand also to start with "Riding the Tiger".
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri May 13, 2016 5:45 pm

White Chrobatia wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
I'd consider starting out at an easier level. Thats a deep rabbit hole you'll be going into. God speed.

I'm actually reading some Edmund Burke right now, I found Reflections on the Revolution in France in my school's library. I was just curious if he was worth checking out at all since I'm pretty sure I'd have to buy it since it doesn't seem any university library would be holding stuff written by him


My advice is to become engaged in your local politics if you're so interested.

I find reading political books rather unenlightening and... Propagandish.

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Postby The East Marches » Fri May 13, 2016 5:47 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
White Chrobatia wrote:I'm actually reading some Edmund Burke right now, I found Reflections on the Revolution in France in my school's library. I was just curious if he was worth checking out at all since I'm pretty sure I'd have to buy it since it doesn't seem any university library would be holding stuff written by him


My advice is to become engaged in your local politics if you're so interested.

I find reading political books rather unenlightening and... Propagandish.


If your local politics are corrupt beyond belief, books may be the only way of getting outside political ideas. Besides, a grown person can sort out what is pure propaganda and what is useful.
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Postby White Chrobatia » Fri May 13, 2016 5:51 pm

The East Marches wrote:
White Chrobatia wrote:I'm actually reading some Edmund Burke right now, I found Reflections on the Revolution in France in my school's library. I was just curious if he was worth checking out at all since I'm pretty sure I'd have to buy it since it doesn't seem any university library would be holding stuff written by him


I distinctly remember reading that myself. Burke makes very good points on the French Revolution. While I don't agree with some of his ideas on the organization of society, he expresses his ideas very well. I do agree on his view of mob rule and the need for explicit rights. I may be conflating that with another thing he wrote. I've read so many books they tend to blur together at this point. I remember mainly by author now.

I also liked Hobbes and Locke too. They are worth a read too. Hobbes tends to conflict with Burke in a few places but you may find it worthwhile to read because of that fact. Frederick the Great's anti-Machiavel is also very interesting.

You may not need to buy some of these. I found many on the internet in the form of free PDFs and repositories. https://www.gutenberg.org/ You may find this link useful to your endeavours.

Oh my god thank you so much! And I've only just begun to read it, since I am working and taking a summer course. If you want, I could totally let you know what I think once I finish it.

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White Chrobatia wrote:I'm actually reading some Edmund Burke right now, I found Reflections on the Revolution in France in my school's library. I was just curious if he was worth checking out at all since I'm pretty sure I'd have to buy it since it doesn't seem any university library would be holding stuff written by him


Most if not all of Evolas Books can be read on the Internet on archive.org and similar Websites. I'd recommand also to start with "Riding the Tiger".

Cool, thanks.

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White Chrobatia wrote:I'm actually reading some Edmund Burke right now, I found Reflections on the Revolution in France in my school's library. I was just curious if he was worth checking out at all since I'm pretty sure I'd have to buy it since it doesn't seem any university library would be holding stuff written by him


My advice is to become engaged in your local politics if you're so interested.

I find reading political books rather unenlightening and... Propagandish.

My local politics are probably worse. Living on a university campus means that at least one side of the argument never gets a voice.
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Postby The East Marches » Fri May 13, 2016 5:53 pm

White Chrobatia wrote:Oh my god thank you so much! And I've only just begun to read it, since I am working and taking a summer course. If you want, I could totally let you know what I think once I finish it.


Sure thing, please do. Feel free to send me a telegram when you finish it with your thoughts.
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri May 13, 2016 5:57 pm

White Chrobatia wrote:My local politics are probably worse. Living on a university campus means that at least one side of the argument never gets a voice.


... Unless you're about to start a chapter of the NSDAP, you'll do fine there.

You could also ask your local libertarian party for work, or start one yourself. You can get funding from your college to start a club concerning an area of research and study.

For example... The College Libertarians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Libertarians

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