Right-Wing Discussion Thread

[The Republic of American Freedom]

Turkey certainly didn't stop all the foreign fighters from getting to Syria and Iraq. Also Turkey is part of NATO.

Turkey wasn't instrumental in the invasion of Iraq, it wasn't their decision.

I'm talking about Turkey doing jack-shit about ISIS fighters coming through their borders.

[Morr]

Turkey certainly didn't stop all the foreign fighters from getting to Syria and Iraq. Also Turkey is part of NATO.

Turkey wasn't instrumental in the invasion of Iraq, it wasn't their decision.

I know, I wasn't blaming them specifically for ISIS, what I meant is that the problems NATO and Saudi Arabia are supposedly trying to clean up are mostly due to either NATO or Saudi Arabia, and they are often aggravating them (Turkey is directly aggravating extremism by their support of Jaish al-Fatah).

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I do support the PKK, and am quite open to their ideology. I am totally fine with the idea of a Kurdish state, but due to my general disdain for nationalism, I would also be all right with fully guaranteed rights for Kurds in all respective nations.

I also fully support the Rojava Revolution.

Why do you think the U.S. is so hostile toward Rojava?

I'm not well-versed on their relations, but the fact that they aren't statist, they aren't capitalist, and they're moderately successful revolutionaries pushing back the US's most public enemy that's been doing a damn good job of fueling the military-industrial complex... might have something to do with it.

[Unnamed island state]

Maybe this should continue in the ISIS thread?

[Jochistan]

In the times when the population was over 50% non Turk, that might have been acceptable. Now it isn't.

We can always have a population exchange just like in the 1920's. The Turks go back to their Central Asian homeland and the Greeks take back their old territory.

This entire site is just fucking gold.

[Morr]

We can always have a population exchange just like in the 1920's. The Turks go back to their Central Asian homeland and the Greeks take back their old territory.

This entire site is just fucking gold.

Hey, it worked so well the last time.

[Unnamed island state]

This entire site is just fucking gold.

Hey, it worked so well the last time.

When was last time?

[The Republic of American Freedom]

Hey, it worked so well the last time.

When was last time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey

[Morr]

Hey, it worked so well the last time.

When was last time?

The 1920's, except the other way around.

[Unnamed island state]

When was last time?

The 1920's, except the other way around.

Well it wouldn't work so well today.

[Morr]

The 1920's, except the other way around.

Well it wouldn't work so well today.

I was being sarcastic. It displaced a shit ton of people from their homes and was only employed because the Turks were committing genocide upon the Greeks so rapidly, they'd all be dead otherwise.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

It is funny really, generally speaking I lean center-right with an emphasis on the center. However, the right generally wants absolutely nothing to do with me considering I'm homosexual. That and I think the government should legalize and tax all recreational drugs, but the homosexual part usually shuts me out before I can even get to that bit.

I just find it a shame the American right isn't more in line with the British Tories on social issues. They'd actually be far more relevant. Eventually they'll stop isolating or they'll stop existing as the "Grand Old Party". Either way, I see it is as victory,

[Morr]

It is funny really, generally speaking I lean center-right with an emphasis on the center. However, the right generally wants absolutely nothing to do with me considering I'm homosexual. That and I think the government should legalize and tax all recreational drugs, but the homosexual part usually shuts me out before I can even get to that bit.

I just find it a shame the American right isn't more in line with the British Tories on social issues. They'd actually be far more relevant. Eventually they'll stop isolating or they'll stop existing as the "Grand Old Party". Either way, I see it is as victory,

Blue Labour is more conservative than contemporary mainstream Tories, tbqh,

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

It is funny really, generally speaking I lean center-right with an emphasis on the center. However, the right generally wants absolutely nothing to do with me considering I'm homosexual. That and I think the government should legalize and tax all recreational drugs, but the homosexual part usually shuts me out before I can even get to that bit.

I just find it a shame the American right isn't more in line with the British Tories on social issues. They'd actually be far more relevant. Eventually they'll stop isolating or they'll stop existing as the "Grand Old Party". Either way, I see it is as victory,

Blue Labour is more conservative than contemporary mainstream Tories, tbqh,

Mind you I'm going with the Tories' stance on social issues. As in, policies on homosexuals, women, etc. etc.

[Morr]

Blue Labour is more conservative than contemporary mainstream Tories, tbqh,

Mind you I'm going with the Tories' stance on social issues. As in, policies on homosexuals, women, etc. etc.

Yeah, well, you're not really conservative if all conservative means to you is freer markets. That's called libertarian.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

Mind you I'm going with the Tories' stance on social issues. As in, policies on homosexuals, women, etc. etc.

Yeah, well, you're not really conservative if all conservative means to you is freer markets. That's called libertarian.

I mean I also said I lean center-right with an emphasis on the center. That is also a glorious oversimplification of libertarianism.

[Morr]

Yeah, well, you're not really conservative if all conservative means to you is freer markets. That's called libertarian.

I mean I also said I lean center-right with an emphasis on the center. That is also a glorious oversimplification of libertarianism.

If you think all recreational drugs should be legal, you're way to the left of even moderate conservatives on social issues. You're actually pretty far left of even mainstream liberalism.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

I mean I also said I lean center-right with an emphasis on the center. That is also a glorious oversimplification of libertarianism.

If you think all recreational drugs should be legal, you're way to the left of even moderate conservatives on social issues. You're actually pretty far left of even mainstream liberalism.

When it comes to drug use yes lol. Considering alcohol and cigarettes are perfectly evil and can do just as much if not more damage in certain cases, I personally see no reason not to legalize and tax recreational drugs. "oh but ebil drugs poison our children" no more than underage drinking and cigarettes already do at this point.

You say I'm far left but I just see it as unnecessary government regulation to prohibit it. Or what many of the right wing tend to call "big government". So, you tell me haha.

[Morr]

If you think all recreational drugs should be legal, you're way to the left of even moderate conservatives on social issues. You're actually pretty far left of even mainstream liberalism.

When it comes to drug use yes lol. Considering alcohol and cigarettes are perfectly evil and can do just as much if not more damage in certain cases, I personally see no reason not to legalize and tax recreational drugs. "oh but ebil drugs poison our children" no more than underage drinking and cigarettes already do at this point.

You say I'm far left but I just see it as unnecessary government regulation to prohibit it. Or what many of the right wing tend to call "big government". So, you tell me haha.

I'd say that you are by no means a conservative, and are completely divorced from what conservatism came from or is about.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

I'd say that you are by no means a conservative, and are completely divorced from what conservatism came from or is about.

I'd say you're not entirely wrong, as I personally view myself as more of a centrist than I do a liberal or conservative. My social views can largely be viewed as "why is the government regulating this in the first place (generally in terms of prohibiting things)". I find it funny that plenty of conservatives tend to rally against big government unless it is being used to prohibit things they deem undesirable. But, hypocrisy is the fad on both sides right now. I also find it a tad funny that my views on drug regulation, which are stemming from a very conservative idea of "why is big government telling people what they can and cannot do", instantly divorced me from conservationism as a whole.

My fiscal views are far more conservative than they are liberal, but as I said in my first post conservatives generally expel me before I get to those given the fact that I am a homosexual and I believe in legalization of recreational drugs. You've only proven me correct thus far (especially if these two things have "completely divorced (me) from what conservatism came from or is about"), which again I think is quite funny.

[Morr]

I'd say that you are by no means a conservative, and are completely divorced from what conservatism came from or is about.

I'd say you're not entirely wrong, as I personally view myself as more of a centrist than I do a liberal or conservative. My social views can largely be viewed as "why is the government regulating this in the first place (generally in terms of prohibiting things)". I find it funny that plenty of conservatives tend to rally against big government unless it is being used to prohibit things they deem undesirable. But, hypocrisy is the fad on both sides right now. I also find it a tad funny that my views on drug regulation, which are stemming from a very conservative idea of "why is big government telling people what they can and cannot do", instantly divorced me from conservationism as a whole.

My fiscal views are far more conservative than they are liberal, but as I said in my first post conservatives generally expel me before I get to those given the fact that I am a homosexual and I believe in legalization of recreational drugs. You've only proven me correct thus far (especially if these two things have "completely divorced (me) from what conservatism came from or is about"), which again I think is quite funny.

I don't think you understand what the core of conservatism is. It's not, "government is bad just, m'kay?" just because that was Reagan's slogan.

Sounds like you're a mainstream Democrat, with a more liberal stance on social issues.

[The Kingdom of Glitter]

I don't think you understand what the core of conservatism is. It's not, "government is bad just, m'kay?" just because that was Reagan's slogan.

Sounds like you're a mainstream Democrat, with a more liberal stance on social issues.

I also don't think you understand the part where I mention I'm more of a centrist with slight centre-right leanings. I more than understand what the core of conservatism is supposed to be (the preservation and prevalence of tradition and in some cases history is what I assume you are looking for, something I am obviously in favor of), whether or not it should be that is another issue.

I do not now which Democrats you know, but I tend to stray from them quite a bit.

[Morr]

I don't think you understand what the core of conservatism is. It's not, "government is bad just, m'kay?" just because that was Reagan's slogan.

Sounds like you're a mainstream Democrat, with a more liberal stance on social issues.

I also don't think you understand the part where I mention I'm more of a centrist with slight centre-right leanings. I more than understand what the core of conservatism is supposed to be (the preservation and prevalence of tradition and in some cases history is what I assume you are looking for, something I am obviously in favor of), whether or not it should be that is another issue.

I do not now which Democrats you know, but I tend to stray from them quite a bit.

I don't think you can say you favor gay marriage and then say you obviously favor preserving tradition.

Democrats are economic centrists with progressive tendencies on social issues.

[Greater Allidron]

I also don't think you understand the part where I mention I'm more of a centrist with slight centre-right leanings. I more than understand what the core of conservatism is supposed to be (the preservation and prevalence of tradition and in some cases history is what I assume you are looking for, something I am obviously in favor of), whether or not it should be that is another issue.

I do not now which Democrats you know, but I tend to stray from them quite a bit.

I don't think you can say you favor gay marriage and then say you obviously favor preserving tradition.

Democrats are economic centrists with progressive tendencies on social issues.

Ugh.



Progressive.

You mean progressing the wrong way.

[Kedri]

I am a social conservative but I agree with Rockerfeller Republicans on just about everything except social issues.