Right-Wing Discussion Thread

[Alvecia]

Didn't you just call RIG Marxist? And you talk to me of cheap nonsensical cop-outs?

I didn't call him a marxist, I accused him of using Marxist cerebral intellectualism.

Because being smart is dumb.

[Valaran]

Didn't you just call RIG Marxist? And you talk to me of cheap nonsensical cop-outs?

I didn't call him a marxist, I accused him of using Marxist cerebral intellectualism.

And I accuse them of using edginess to further some batshit insane ideological stances that are an excuse to pander to their prejudices and paranoia.
The distinction is fairly minimal.

[Traditionalism]

Uh, no. All the research, evidence and proof for what Fascism TRULY is can be found at IronMarch.

As I pointed out, IronMarch is a weird blend of Neo Fascism, Nazism, and Evola's cosmology. Hell, they show basic lack of knowledge on what Fascism is. Just look at this gem:

Totalitarianism is not an inherently Fascist ideal,

Now let's read what Mussolini said:

The keystone of the Fascist doctrine is its conception of the State, of its essence, its functions, and its aims. For Fascism the State is absolute, individuals and groups relative. Individuals and groups are admissible in so far as they come within the State.

These are simply means to an end; the Organic State. Totalitarianism isn't inherent, it's the beginning component for the restoration of Tradition.

[Traditionalism]

I never said I wanted to hang them. Rope Culture is an educational website. I want to educate them.

Wow, really? Try to hold onto some of your remaining credibility, please.

It's an educational website.

http://ropeculture.org/

[The Kievan People]

These are simply means to an end; the Organic State. Totalitarianism isn't inherent, it's the beginning component for the restoration of Tradition.

Where did Mussolini say this?

[Traditionalism]

I didn't call him a marxist, I accused him of using Marxist cerebral intellectualism.

Because being smart is dumb.

Intellectualism isn't being smart. Intellectualism is deconstructing everything until nothing is left, aimless and useless.

[The Grey Wolf]

As I pointed out, IronMarch is a weird blend of Neo Fascism, Nazism, and Evola's cosmology. Hell, they show basic lack of knowledge on what Fascism is. Just look at this gem:


Now let's read what Mussolini said:

These are simply means to an end; the Organic State. Totalitarianism isn't inherent, it's the beginning component for the restoration of Tradition.

Evola is not the ideologue of Fascism. Mussolini and Gentile were, and neither of them ever spoke about this.

[Valaran]

Because being smart is dumb.

Intellectualism isn't being smart. Intellectualism is deconstructing everything until nothing is left, aimless and useless.

Far better to be pseudo intellectual and twist true rational lines of argument to fit inherently irrational fears and prejudices, no?

Intellectualism is deconstructing everything until nothing is left, aimless and useless.

Can't afford to have our views be faced by logic, can we now.

[Alvecia]

Because being smart is dumb.

Intellectualism isn't being smart. Intellectualism is deconstructing everything until nothing is left, aimless and useless.

Hardly. It's using reason over emotion. If anything it can clarify aims and uses.

[Conscentia]

Why‽

Why are you surprised?

Does it matter?

[The Grey Wolf]

So your faith is an anti-traditional, 16th century heresy?

Until around a day or two ago, you did not even know what corporatism was. You are not a Fascist, I say that as someone who's read dozens of books on the subject, and who actually is one.

>am mtf

>claims to be Fascist

lol, k

And this is relevant, how?

[Valaran]

These are simply means to an end; the Organic State. Totalitarianism isn't inherent, it's the beginning component for the restoration of Tradition.

Evola is not the ideologue of Fascism. Mussolini and Gentile were, and neither of them ever spoke about this.

Not to mention if you take out the word 'tradition' and replace it with 'equality', you get the similar idea espoused in some strains of communism, that being totalitarian for a bit can then be shrugged off once you have achieved Utopia. That view is equally ludicrous.

[Traditionalism]

Intellectualism isn't being smart. Intellectualism is deconstructing everything until nothing is left, aimless and useless.

Far better to be pseudo intellectual and twist true rational lines of argument to fit inherently irrational fears and prejudices, no?

Intellectualism is deconstructing everything until nothing is left, aimless and useless.

Can't afford to have our views be faced by logic, can we now.

Logic and reason are incompatible with the One Truth found in the Universal Cosmic Order
Fascist core
by Alexander Slavros
Honour Truth
The Fascist Worldview
Truth is what governs all things in life. There can be but one Truth.
Opinions, delusions and lies are falsehoods, deviations from the Truth.
All falsehoods come from the human mind.
Fascism is the Worldview of Truth.
All man-made ideologies are falsehoods.
Truth affects everyone differently. Equality and human-ism are lies.
Human history is an increasing deviation from the Truth. Progress is a lie.
Truth is impersonal, it serves no one’s interests.


Make War
-The Fascist Struggle
Justice is restoration of Truth.
Modern world is built on interests and man-made ideas, it is built on lies.
Modern laws protect lies. Our enemy is legal. Justice is illegal.
Falsehoods are legion and conflict one another, but they all oppose Truth.
There can be no compromise, least you allow Truth to be obscured by lies.
We champion Truth. Anyone and everyone who attacks is the enemy.
The worse things get the more free we are to exact Justice.
Buildings and institutions can house Truth or lies. Re-store them to Truth or burn them down.

[The Kievan People]

How did you discover this?

I'm going to go on a limb and say logic and reason weren't involved.

...gold tablets?

[The Grey Wolf]

Far better to be pseudo intellectual and twist true rational lines of argument to fit inherently irrational fears and prejudices, no?



Can't afford to have our views be faced by logic, can we now.

Logic and reason are incompatible with the One Truth found in the Universal Cosmic Order
Fascist core
by Alexander Slavros
Honour Truth
The Fascist Worldview
Truth is what governs all things in life. There can be but one Truth.
Opinions, delusions and lies are falsehoods, deviations from the Truth.
All falsehoods come from the human mind.
Fascism is the Worldview of Truth.
All man-made ideologies are falsehoods.
Truth affects everyone differently. Equality and human-ism are lies.
Human history is an increasing deviation from the Truth. Progress is a lie.
Truth is impersonal, it serves no one’s interests.

I'm fairly certain that Mussolini and Gentile, being idealists, would disagree with a lot of these points.

[Conscentia]

Logic and reason are incompatible with the One Truth found in the Universal Cosmic Order[...]

Do you even know what "logic" and "reason" are?

[Planita]

Snip.

What... Wait until he meets Chemistress.

[Valaran]

Far better to be pseudo intellectual and twist true rational lines of argument to fit inherently irrational fears and prejudices, no?



Can't afford to have our views be faced by logic, can we now.

Logic and reason are incompatible with the One Truth found in the Universal Cosmic Order

Comedic Gold.

"Logic and Reason aren't compatible with some made up shit"

Truth is what governs all things in life. There can be but one Truth.

Whatever that is, and assuming everything can neatly fit into one truth.

Fascism is the Worldview of Truth.

Because we said so.

All man-made ideologies are falsehoods.

Fascism, as opposed to them, was made by the inter-planetary deity Xenu (with four tentacles and 12 fluorescent spins) for a lark, and so is not affected.

Human history is an increasing deviation from the Truth. Progress is a lie.

Everyone knows cavemen had it best.

Truth is impersonal, it serves no one’s interests.

If by no one, you mean your little band of pretend fascism, then yeah.

[Valaran]

Snip.

What... Wait until he meets Chemistress.

hahahha xD

ok you win all the NSG today

[Planita]

Hey Traditionalism, there is a person I want you to meet.

[Traditionalism]

Logic and reason are incompatible with the One Truth found in the Universal Cosmic Order[...]

Do you even know what "logic" and "reason" are?

They are manmade falsehoods meant to rationalize mortal creation and temporal existence outside of the source; the metaphysical

[The Grey Wolf]

Why are you surprised?

Does it matter?

I'm just curious.

[Traditionalism]

Hey Traditionalism, there is a person I want you to meet.

Why?

[Traditionalism]

Fascist core
by Alexander Slavros
Honour Truth
The Fascist Worldview
Truth is what governs all things in life. There can be but one Truth.
Opinions, delusions and lies are falsehoods, deviations from the Truth.
All falsehoods come from the human mind.
Fascism is the Worldview of Truth.
All man-made ideologies are falsehoods.
Truth affects everyone differently. Equality and human-ism are lies.
Human history is an increasing deviation from the Truth. Progress is a lie.
Truth is impersonal, it serves no one’s interests.


Make War
-The Fascist Struggle
Justice is restoration of Truth.
Modern world is built on interests and man-made ideas, it is built on lies.
Modern laws protect lies. Our enemy is legal. Justice is illegal.
Falsehoods are legion and conflict one another, but they all oppose Truth.
There can be no compromise, least you allow Truth to be obscured by lies.
We champion Truth. Anyone and everyone who attacks is the enemy.
The worse things get the more free we are to exact Justice.
Buildings and institutions can house Truth or lies. Re-store them to Truth or burn them down.

[Alvecia]

Logic and reason are incompatible with the One Truth found in the Universal Cosmic Order

Comedic Gold.

"Logic and Reason aren't compatible with some made up shit"

He's not....technically....wrong.
I've just never met someone who claimed that irrationality, unreasonableness and illogicity were favourable traits.