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As a Conservative voter, who should be the next president of the United States?

Donald Trump
47
24%
Ted Cruz
19
10%
Marco Rubio
7
4%
John Kasich
37
19%
I'm not a Republican supporter
82
43%
 
Total votes : 192

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Postby Morr » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:37 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Morr wrote:At least Trump doesn't have any trouble standing up to Saudi Arabia.


If Trump ever went to Saudi Arabia in an official capacity, the first words out of his mouth to Saudi royalty would be "Durka Durka, Mohammed Jihad!"

I doubt it, he's shown a very cavalier attitude toward his business. The owner of the Trump Hotels in Turkey is already saying he's going to stop paying to use Trump's name, and I think Macey's stopped carrying Trump stuff now as well.
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Postby Romalae » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:38 pm

Anakletos wrote:For a while, I sort of wanted Trump to get the candidacy in the same way I sort of want random things to explode violently: it'd be fun to watch, but is still a bad idea. But at this point, it's too much of a risk.

Pataki's the only one I would be alright with in the White House, but he doesn't really have a chance in hell, so I've kind of given up on the GOP.

Pataki missed the filing deadline for the Florida, Texas, and Virginia primaries. Safe to say he is not a serious candidate.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:39 pm

Morr wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Source? They mostly run through the south or North of Syria. But again this should probably go in another thread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkuk%E2 ... s_pipeline


That pipeline has been out of service for over a decade.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:41 pm

Gauthier wrote:


But it's obviously okay because he's not Hillary Clinton.


No. It is very much not ok.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Arlenton » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:42 pm

Romalae wrote:
Anakletos wrote:For a while, I sort of wanted Trump to get the candidacy in the same way I sort of want random things to explode violently: it'd be fun to watch, but is still a bad idea. But at this point, it's too much of a risk.

Pataki's the only one I would be alright with in the White House, but he doesn't really have a chance in hell, so I've kind of given up on the GOP.

Pataki missed the filing deadline for the Florida, Texas, and Virginia primaries. Safe to say he is not a serious candidate.

Pataki isn't serious but Trump is. Hahah hahah ha..... we're fucked.

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Postby The Tabula Rasa Islands » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:42 pm

What's the reason for all the support of John Kasich?
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Postby Morr » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:43 pm

Novus America wrote:


That pipeline has been out of service for over a decade.

But there are plans by everyone involved to get it working again. There are also plans to build the "friendship pipeline" in that area. These are big things.
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Postby Arlenton » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:45 pm

The Tabula Rasa Islands wrote:What's the reason for all the support of John Kasich?

He's the most moderate candidate who isn't a Bush or super Hawkish in a poll on a left-leaning forum.

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Postby Unnamed island state » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:46 pm

Morr wrote:
Novus America wrote:Russia might want a stable Syria but they know they are not going to get one.


Yes, they will. They're demolishing Turkey-backed Sunnis in Syria, and the Houthis are demolishing Saudi-backed Sunnis in Yemen. Turkey, meanwhile, is going to try to Balkanize Iraq (which is on the verge of kicking the U.S. out for being spineless, which means Iraq will become a Russian client) and make a puppet Kurd state with Barzani as lord, which will then get involved in a war with Iraq, Hezbollah and the PKK, and will probably lose. If Russia plays its cards right, its camp will gain hegemony over the Middle East.

First of all Russia can't afford that.
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Postby Anakletos » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:46 pm

Morr wrote:
Anakletos wrote:For a while, I sort of wanted Trump to get the candidacy in the same way I sort of want random things to explode violently: it'd be fun to watch, but is still a bad idea. But at this point, it's too much of a risk.

Pataki's the only one I would be alright with in the White House, but he doesn't really have a chance in hell, so I've kind of given up on the GOP.

At least Trump doesn't have any trouble standing up to Saudi Arabia.


While we need to deal with Saudi Arabia, I'm almost positive Trump would fuck any plan up terribly.

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Anakletos wrote:For a while, I sort of wanted Trump to get the candidacy in the same way I sort of want random things to explode violently: it'd be fun to watch, but is still a bad idea. But at this point, it's too much of a risk.

Pataki's the only one I would be alright with in the White House, but he doesn't really have a chance in hell, so I've kind of given up on the GOP.

Pataki missed the filing deadline for the Florida, Texas, and Virginia primaries. Safe to say he is not a serious candidate.


Damn. Well, back to hoping for a Democrat victory.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:47 pm

Morr wrote:
Novus America wrote:
That pipeline has been out of service for over a decade.

But there are plans by everyone involved to get it working again. There are also plans to build the "friendship pipeline" in that area. These are big things.


Not really. Some five year old plans mean little and there are plenty of alternatives. The plans seem to be largely abandoned with the war anyway, and are probably not economical at current oil prices. There are plenty of other vaporware pipelines. And real one through Turkey and Jordan. But again kind of off topic.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby The Tabula Rasa Islands » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:47 pm

Yeah, the poll numbers on this thread differ greatly from the polls that CNN finds from whatever source
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:02 pm


So I guess he's going to be under investigation? Seeing as he isn't a member of the committee apparently.
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Postby Ashmoria » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:09 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Morr wrote:Yeah, well after it came out the chemical weapons were actually used by the rebels, you'll excuse me if I'm skeptical. Christians in Syria strongly support Assad because he protects them, and frankly, however bad you think Assad is, the Army of Conquest would be far worse.


I will be honest, Assad is a prick. However, just like Saddam, it is a necessary evil in the region.


he's not a necessary evil but it is very complicated when Russia wants to make sure that whatever government Syria ends up with will let them keep their navy base. we aren't used to taking Russia into consideration.
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:17 pm

Seriously, Donald? How can you be claiming victory after Jeb whupped you? And CNN? Trump "Emerged without a scratch"?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/jeb-bush-donald-trump-claim-victory-gop-2016-debate-article-1.2467481
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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:37 pm

Geilinor wrote:Seriously, Donald? How can you be claiming victory after Jeb whupped you? And CNN? Trump "Emerged without a scratch"?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/jeb-bush-donald-trump-claim-victory-gop-2016-debate-article-1.2467481

Sad as it may be, Jeb's victory was never going to be acknowledged, no matter how effective it was.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:14 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Seriously, Donald? How can you be claiming victory after Jeb whupped you? And CNN? Trump "Emerged without a scratch"?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/jeb-bush-donald-trump-claim-victory-gop-2016-debate-article-1.2467481

Sad as it may be, Jeb's victory was never going to be acknowledged, no matter how effective it was.
This election cycle has been one of the most unstable in American history, and it's all thanks to a brainless billionaire.


Is it really his fault or is it the GOP's fault?
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Postby Arlenton » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:17 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Sad as it may be, Jeb's victory was never going to be acknowledged, no matter how effective it was.
This election cycle has been one of the most unstable in American history, and it's all thanks to a brainless billionaire.


Is it really his fault or is it the GOP's fault?

The activist base part of the GOP with it's billionaire that does not have a clue on what it's doing and gives absolutely no shits.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:50 pm

Arlenton wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Is it really his fault or is it the GOP's fault?

The activist base part of the GOP with it's billionaire that does not have a clue on what it's doing and gives absolutely no shits.


Which part of the activist base? They have several groups which is part of their problem.

In some ways the RNC probably was happy for the tragedy to happen (not saying they are dancing about dead) as it gave they the fear option to talk about rather then ideas for the economy and the future.

Repubs at the moment don't have any "real" plans which is a shame. It will still be the concept of negotation where they have a list and the demos are supposed to agree with all of it.

Not much will be done in the next 4 years. Well that is unless one actually wins. I see many many foreclosures after they tank the economy again.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:06 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Arlenton wrote:The activist base part of the GOP with it's billionaire that does not have a clue on what it's doing and gives absolutely no shits.


Which part of the activist base? They have several groups which is part of their problem.

In some ways the RNC probably was happy for the tragedy to happen (not saying they are dancing about dead) as it gave they the fear option to talk about rather then ideas for the economy and the future.

Repubs at the moment don't have any "real" plans which is a shame. It will still be the concept of negotation where they have a list and the demos are supposed to agree with all of it.

Not much will be done in the next 4 years. Well that is unless one actually wins. I see many many foreclosures after they tank the economy again.

Why exactly is the economy bound to implode in the next Republican presidency?
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Postby Zaldakki » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:08 pm

If Trump wins, I'm moving to France or Quebec.

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Postby Mienon » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:13 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Which part of the activist base? They have several groups which is part of their problem.

In some ways the RNC probably was happy for the tragedy to happen (not saying they are dancing about dead) as it gave they the fear option to talk about rather then ideas for the economy and the future.

Repubs at the moment don't have any "real" plans which is a shame. It will still be the concept of negotation where they have a list and the demos are supposed to agree with all of it.

Not much will be done in the next 4 years. Well that is unless one actually wins. I see many many foreclosures after they tank the economy again.

Why exactly is the economy bound to implode in the next Republican presidency?

It's bound to implode during the next term anyway, so it really doesn't matter who wins.
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Postby Slarvainian » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:27 pm

If trump wins the presidency we will have a serious Islamic extremist threat on our hands.

I don't think he will win though so I'm not too worried.
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Postby Trumpostan » Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:04 am

Zeinbrad wrote:

So I guess he's going to be under investigation? Seeing as he isn't a member of the committee apparently.


Congressional hearings in 3... 2... 1... oh wait I forgot IOKIYAR. Just like there were 0 hearings about 13 'Benghazis' on W's watch.
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