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As a Conservative voter, who should be the next president of the United States?

Donald Trump
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24%
Ted Cruz
19
10%
Marco Rubio
7
4%
John Kasich
37
19%
I'm not a Republican supporter
82
43%
 
Total votes : 192

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Postby Kelinfort » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:13 pm

Donald Trump reminds me so much of Pat Buchanan

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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:10 am

Roski wrote:
Liriena wrote:It's always nice to see a passionate defender of Western civilization and the "white race" hope that their candidate of choice wins the highest office in a Western democracy, with a majority white population to boot, by corrupting the democratic process like the worst pseudo-democratic governments in many "uncivilized" non-white countries.


I think he's more stating a fact than supporting it. Its clear that because Trump can just buy his way into office, Clinton won't be able to keep up.

Which is pathetic, and something that needs to be changed, but hopefully Bernie won't be on his death bed by 2020.


I think you underestimate the amount of money the Democrats have at their disposal and the number of people that are just not receptive to Trump's message no matter how much he spams it around.
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Postby Khadgar » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:14 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Roski wrote:
I think he's more stating a fact than supporting it. Its clear that because Trump can just buy his way into office, Clinton won't be able to keep up.

Which is pathetic, and something that needs to be changed, but hopefully Bernie won't be on his death bed by 2020.


I think you underestimate the amount of money the Democrats have at their disposal and the number of people that are just not receptive to Trump's message no matter how much he spams it around.


Considering at this point he's only gotten like 20% of all votes cast I'm wondering how low his ceiling is.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:16 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Roski wrote:
I think he's more stating a fact than supporting it. Its clear that because Trump can just buy his way into office, Clinton won't be able to keep up.

Which is pathetic, and something that needs to be changed, but hopefully Bernie won't be on his death bed by 2020.


I think you underestimate the amount of money the Democrats have at their disposal and the number of people that are just not receptive to Trump's message no matter how much he spams it around.


Yeah- Hillary has, if the statistic I saw the other day was accurate, the largest war chest before the nomination that any candidate has ever had in American history, even in real money equivalency terms. And that's not even counting SuperPACs and whatnot.
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Postby Philjia » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:17 am

Kelinfort wrote:Donald Trump reminds me so much of Pat Buchanan


Trump is less crazy in his views, although not his attitude and delivery.
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Postby Khadgar » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:18 am

Philjia wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Donald Trump reminds me so much of Pat Buchanan


Trump is less crazy in his views, although not his attitude and delivery.


Trump has views? I was of the impression that he has soundbites. Views require more coherence than I thought him capable of expressing.

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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:29 am

Khadgar wrote:
Philjia wrote:
Trump is less crazy in his views, although not his attitude and delivery.


Trump has views? I was of the impression that he has soundbites. Views require more coherence than I thought him capable of expressing.


well last night trump expressed the view that islam hates us. when Anderson cooper asked if he meant ALL islam or only radical islam he refused to answer.

I'm not sure if that makes your point or not.
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Postby The Qeiiam Star Cluster » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:32 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I think you underestimate the amount of money the Democrats have at their disposal and the number of people that are just not receptive to Trump's message no matter how much he spams it around.


Yeah- Hillary has, if the statistic I saw the other day was accurate, the largest war chest before the nomination that any candidate has ever had in American history, even in real money equivalency terms. And that's not even counting SuperPACs and whatnot.

But Trump's net worth is in excess of TEN BILLION DOLLARS!!!

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:45 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Yeah- Hillary has, if the statistic I saw the other day was accurate, the largest war chest before the nomination that any candidate has ever had in American history, even in real money equivalency terms. And that's not even counting SuperPACs and whatnot.

But Trump's net worth is in excess of TEN BILLION DOLLARS!!!


If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell to you in Alaska.
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Postby -Principality of Zeon- » Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:07 am

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I can't see that happening under any circumstances really.

You have plenty of influential Republicans denouncing Trump. It's very possible that their establishment will go anti-Trump.



Which would cause one of two things will, either the death of the Republican party, or a MASSIVE schism in its voters.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:10 am

Gauthier wrote:
Liriena wrote:It's always nice to see a passionate defender of Western civilization and the "white race" hope that their candidate of choice wins the highest office in a Western democracy, with a majority white population to boot, by corrupting the democratic process like the worst pseudo-democratic governments in many "uncivilized" non-white countries.


Naturally this will involve numerous means of fraud and/or intimidation to keep the uppity darkies from voting against the Great White Hope that is Donald Trump.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:16 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I can't see that happening under any circumstances really.

You have plenty of influential Republicans denouncing Trump. It's very possible that their establishment will go anti-Trump.


Or not:

http://time.com/4174410/donald-trump-re ... epublican/
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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:16 am

Philjia wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Donald Trump reminds me so much of Pat Buchanan


Trump is less crazy in his views, although not his attitude and delivery.

Marginally at best. Honestly, I could see him turning his back on Israel and leaving the UN.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:20 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Philjia wrote:
Trump is less crazy in his views, although not his attitude and delivery.

Marginally at best. Honestly, I could see him turning his back on Israel and leaving the UN.


The U.S. trying to be less involved about Israel and not twisting their collective panties about each time Palestine retaliates to Israel would be a good start.
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Postby Novus America » Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:22 am

The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Yeah- Hillary has, if the statistic I saw the other day was accurate, the largest war chest before the nomination that any candidate has ever had in American history, even in real money equivalency terms. And that's not even counting SuperPACs and whatnot.

But Trump's net worth is in excess of TEN BILLION DOLLARS!!!


It is not. And he is not very liquid, and he is not likely to sell off y'uge amounts of assets. Net worth does not mean much. Liquidity and willingness to spend do. So far Trump has shown little interest spending when he has the idiots in the media dancing to his tune. The media does not like him, but they still help him because he knows how to manipulate them.

Donald Trump is just one crony capitalist. Hillary has the backing of countless ones.
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Postby Neon Trotsky » Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:53 am

Kelinfort wrote:Donald Trump reminds me so much of Pat Buchanan


Trump reminds me of a lot of people, I'm not sure how so many people act like he's some kind of new phenomena. We've had racist nativists in the US from day one, they used to completely run the country.

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Postby Diopolis » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:01 am

Kelinfort wrote:Donald Trump reminds me so much of Pat Buchanan

Pat Buchanan was sane. He ran on his ideology, not showmanship, and he had a coherent message.
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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:15 am

Diopolis wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Donald Trump reminds me so much of Pat Buchanan

Pat Buchanan was sane. He ran on his ideology, not showmanship, and he had a coherent message.

Nothing sane like calling Washington, "Israeli Occupied Territory".

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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:17 am

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-supporter-punches-protester-in-face-at-north-carolina-rally_us_56e1761ce4b0b25c9180dd44

More violence at Trump rallies.

Seriously, either Trump should get his stuff together and actually try to bring an end to this, or he should be treated every bit as the leader of an extremist movement he is becoming.
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Postby TheDrunkenLlamas » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:18 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Pat Buchanan was sane. He ran on his ideology, not showmanship, and he had a coherent message.

Nothing sane like calling Washington, "Israeli Occupied Territory".


Knowing Dio he probably agrees with that.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:20 am

Kelinfort wrote:Donald Trump reminds me so much of Pat Buchanan

He reminds me more of a far-right Hugo Chavez or Nicolas Maduro: lots of bravado, no nuance, and a massive and thin-skinned ego.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:21 am

TheDrunkenLlamas wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Nothing sane like calling Washington, "Israeli Occupied Territory".


Knowing Dio he probably agrees with that.

Let's not be unfair.

Sidenote: I learned of Pat Buchanan's existence through the Watchmen movie adaptation. Then I found him in Right Wing Watch's rogues gallery and shuddered.
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Postby TheDrunkenLlamas » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:27 am

Liriena wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-supporter-punches-protester-in-face-at-north-carolina-rally_us_56e1761ce4b0b25c9180dd44

More violence at Trump rallies.

Seriously, either Trump should get his stuff together and actually try to bring an end to this, or he should be treated every bit as the leader of an extremist movement he is becoming.



I'm waiting for someone to shoot a protester at one of these things. It's only a matter if time.
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Postby Zoice » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:28 am

TheDrunkenLlamas wrote:
Liriena wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-supporter-punches-protester-in-face-at-north-carolina-rally_us_56e1761ce4b0b25c9180dd44

More violence at Drumpf rallies.

Seriously, either Drumpf should get his stuff together and actually try to bring an end to this, or he should be treated every bit as the leader of an extremist movement he is becoming.



I'm waiting for someone to shoot a protester at one of these things. It's only a matter if time.

Just wait for a black kid in a hoodie to walk by a Trump rally. Those skittles are deadly.
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Postby Novus America » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:29 am

Liriena wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-supporter-punches-protester-in-face-at-north-carolina-rally_us_56e1761ce4b0b25c9180dd44

More violence at Trump rallies.

Seriously, either Trump should get his stuff together and actually try to bring an end to this, or he should be treated every bit as the leader of an extremist movement he is becoming.


"The real estate mogul himself said last month he'd like to punch one of the protesters being led out of a rally in Las Vegas."

Trump has his stuff together on this. Why would he want to stop the violence he loves? That he encourages? That gets him the attention he craves?
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