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As a Conservative voter, who should be the next president of the United States?

Donald Trump
47
24%
Ted Cruz
19
10%
Marco Rubio
7
4%
John Kasich
37
19%
I'm not a Republican supporter
82
43%
 
Total votes : 192

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:08 am

Gauthier wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:i'd have to say that that is spot on. if you like Donald, Donald will like you no matter how forcefully it is pointed out that you kill journalists and political enemies.


And then watch a hydrogen logic bomb detonate the second al'Baghdadi declares his love for Trump.


at least he's a strong leader unlike what we have NOW

[/sarcasm]
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Postby Constaniana » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:28 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
And then watch a hydrogen logic bomb detonate the second al'Baghdadi declares his love for Trump.


at least he's a strong leader unlike what we have NOW

[/sarcasm]

Very succesful war crimes, there. Just terrific. I love all the ISIS fans. They're hyuuge.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:29 am

Constaniana wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
at least he's a strong leader unlike what we have NOW

[/sarcasm]

Very succesful war crimes, there. Just terrific. I love all the ISIS fans. They're hyuuge.


and I wonder if his supporters would suddenly LIKE isis instead of deciding that their candidate is an idiot.
whatever

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Postby Constaniana » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:32 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Constaniana wrote:Very succesful war crimes, there. Just terrific. I love all the ISIS fans. They're hyuuge.


and I wonder if his supporters would suddenly LIKE isis instead of deciding that their candidate is an idiot.

We've always been at war with ISIS...I mean China! All the anti-ISIS stuff must be propaganda put up by those damn chinks, who I think are just stupendous, to slander and defame ISIS, our very luxuriant allies from the beginning of time.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:33 am

Constaniana wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
and I wonder if his supporters would suddenly LIKE isis instead of deciding that their candidate is an idiot.

We've always been at war with ISIS...I mean China! All the anti-ISIS stuff must be propaganda put up by those damn chinks, who I think are just stupendous, to slander and defame ISIS, our very luxuriant allies from the beginning of time.

lol

it could totally happen.
whatever

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Postby Constaniana » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:35 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Constaniana wrote:We've always been at war with ISIS...I mean China! All the anti-ISIS stuff must be propaganda put up by those damn chinks, who I think are just stupendous, to slander and defame ISIS, our very luxuriant allies from the beginning of time.

lol

it could totally happen.

Aye. The doublethink his campaign runs on is alarming.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:37 am

Constaniana wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:lol

it could totally happen.

Aye. The doublethink his campaign runs on is alarming.


We have always been at war with Eastasia.
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Postby Constaniana » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:40 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Constaniana wrote:Aye. The doublethink his campaign runs on is alarming.


We have always been at war with Eastasia.

When was the last time you saw one of our floating fortresses in Japan?
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Postby Trumpostan » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:32 am

Teemant wrote:
Trumpostan wrote:
That is because our 'ascension' to top economic status is almost entirely derived from centuries of colonial exploitation which in fact continues to this very day by one sided trade agreements which benefits the western world and local African elited and does not at all benefit ordinary Africans and people in the Middle East.

The colonial era resonates still because it locked in the advantages gained from centuries of merciless exploitation. And because of all the artificial countries created by Britain and France which will never be stable because they deliberately ignored ethno-tribal-cultural reality. Divide-and-rule echoes to this day.

You see, free trade and privatization are an unmitigated disaster for most countries, yet the right keeps pushing these Reaganesque-Thatcherite terrorist economic policies. And yes, I just called it terroristic. The policies only benefit the rich, banks and corporations. Executive paychecks skyrocket and workers wages remain flat.

TLDR version: there is nothing heroic about the right wing.

And maybe you should not have forgotten about christian colonizers of the Americas who decimated the original population.


The thing that is holding Africa back is corruption and huge debts. No need to blame west.

West doesn't have free trade with Africa. But if they want to compete they must have free trade because whatever they produce is too expensive to sell (can't compete with prices) without free trade.


Corruption which the west has maintained in place by playing on African leaders in order to secure resources for the western world, often in extremely one sided agreements benefitting (as I laid out before) only western countries, corporations and local African elites.
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Postby Novus America » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:38 am

Trumpostan wrote:
Teemant wrote:
The thing that is holding Africa back is corruption and huge debts. No need to blame west.

West doesn't have free trade with Africa. But if they want to compete they must have free trade because whatever they produce is too expensive to sell (can't compete with prices) without free trade.


Corruption which the west has maintained in place by playing on African leaders in order to secure resources for the western world, often in extremely one sided agreements benefitting (as I laid out before) only western countries, corporations and local African elites.


Poverty in Africa is declining...

And is China the Wetern World? China is securing the resources not the West.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:58 am

Trumpostan wrote:
Teemant wrote:
The thing that is holding Africa back is corruption and huge debts. No need to blame west.

West doesn't have free trade with Africa. But if they want to compete they must have free trade because whatever they produce is too expensive to sell (can't compete with prices) without free trade.


Corruption which the west has maintained in place by playing on African leaders in order to secure resources for the western world, often in extremely one sided agreements benefitting (as I laid out before) only western countries, corporations and local African elites.

It's very intriguing how most of the poorest African nations are led by parties that reject free enterprise.

Congo: People's Party for Reconstruction and Democracy (Social Democrat)
Sierra Leone: All People's Congress (Social Democrat)
Niger: Nigerien Party for Democracy and Socialism (self-explanatory)
Ethiopia: Oromo Peoples' Democratic Organization (Marxist)
Mali: Alliance for Democracy in Mali (Social Democrat)

Just to name a few.
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Postby LaVeyan Stirnerite Randroids » Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:02 pm

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I'm more for Arnold Schwarzenegger or Jesse Ventura, but again, as minarchists are not wanted, too bad.
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Postby West Aurelia » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:53 am

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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:56 am

Now that everyone wants to blow shit up with tanks instead of planes, Lindsay feels his job is done.
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Postby Collatis » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:07 am

It's my guess that now that Lindsey Graham has dropped out, the other low pollers will follow (Pataki, Gilmore, Santorum, etc.). Graham consistently won every kiddie debate after Fiorina left, and arguably had the best chance out of his group. Him dropping out will serve as a wake-up call to the others.
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:44 am

You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:05 am

Collatis wrote:It's my guess that now that Lindsey Graham has dropped out, the other low pollers will follow (Pataki, Gilmore, Santorum, etc.). Graham consistently won every undergrad debate after Fiorina left, and arguably had the best chance out of his group. Him dropping out will serve as a wake-up call to the others.


I didn't know he had left.

Within a month, I guarantee that Pataki, Gilmore, and Huckabee will be out.
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:12 am

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Collatis wrote:It's my guess that now that Lindsey Graham has dropped out, the other low pollers will follow (Pataki, Gilmore, Santorum, etc.). Graham consistently won every undergrad debate after Fiorina left, and arguably had the best chance out of his group. Him dropping out will serve as a wake-up call to the others.


I didn't know he had left.

Within a month, I guarantee that Pataki, Gilmore, and Huckabee will be out.


Hopefully they will. I don't see Pataki, Gilmore, Santorum, and Huckabee not dropping out to at least around the Iowa Caucuses. You won't see Paul, Kasich, Christie, and Fiorina drop out, not until the New Hampshire Primary. But yeah, let's hope that the low tier people drop out first.
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Postby Trumpostan » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:29 am

It's very intriguing how most of the poorest African nations are led by parties that reject free enterprise.

Congo: People's Party for Reconstruction and Democracy (Social Democrat)
Sierra Leone: All People's Congress (Social Democrat)
Niger: Nigerien Party for Democracy and Socialism (self-explanatory)
Ethiopia: Oromo Peoples' Democratic Organization (Marxist)
Mali: Alliance for Democracy in Mali (Social Democrat)

Just to name a few.


Names that generally mean little since elections in many African countries result in voting on ethno-tribal lines.

Now, for example, who benefits from Nigeria's oil wealth? Or Liberia's diamond mines? Not ordinary people, that is for sure.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:39 am

People should watch the Futurama episode Decision 3012. Trump's promises are very similar to Richard Nixon's head's promises. Image
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Postby Nordengrund » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:45 am



Shame. He seemed like a decent candidate.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:46 am

Nordengrund wrote:


Shame. He seemed like a decent candidate.


Nah, he was just kinda there.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:46 am

Socialist Tera wrote:People should watch the Futurama episode Decision 3012. Trump's promises are very similar to Richard Nixon's head's promises. (Image)


There's a catch.

Nixon always wins!
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Postby Unnamed island state » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:10 am


He wasn't the worst.
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Postby Collatis » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:39 am

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:People should watch the Futurama episode Decision 3012. Trump's promises are very similar to Richard Nixon's head's promises. (Image)


There's a catch.

Nixon always wins!

Image
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