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As a Conservative voter, who should be the next president of the United States?

Donald Trump
47
24%
Ted Cruz
19
10%
Marco Rubio
7
4%
John Kasich
37
19%
I'm not a Republican supporter
82
43%
 
Total votes : 192

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Postby Councilmembers » Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:55 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
Collatis wrote:If Huckabee had gotten the nomination in 2008, he would have lost by more than McCain. If Santorum had gotten the nomination in 2012, he would have lost by more than Romney. It isn't a problem with the establishment. It's both a problem with the party itself, and just circumstances of those two elections. No Republican could have won in 2008.

Ron Paul. 'Nuff Said!


Americans would not vote for a candidate who believes -- as an ultimate end goal -- in privatizing Social Security, abolishing agencies such as the FDA, and so on. Just because you really like a political candidate doesn't mean that he would easily win an election.

And for the record, I was a Ron Paul Republican back in 2012. I know what it feels like.

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Postby Geilinor » Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:58 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:Are you sure you don't have that backwards? Cruz said Rubio was too soft on immigration.


you know cruz is a liar right? so yeah, Rubio worked on the comprehensive immigration bill. it was a not-too-too-terrible bill. CRUZ submitted an amendment that would have allowed illegal residents a pathway to a legal status (but not citizenship). NOW cruz is saying that he offered it only as a poison pill that would scuttle the whole bill.

I believe him when he says that it was meant to be a poison pill. He was working with Jeff Sessions to prevent any pathway to legal status.
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Postby Ashmoria » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:15 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
you know cruz is a liar right? so yeah, Rubio worked on the comprehensive immigration bill. it was a not-too-too-terrible bill. CRUZ submitted an amendment that would have allowed illegal residents a pathway to a legal status (but not citizenship). NOW cruz is saying that he offered it only as a poison pill that would scuttle the whole bill.

I believe him when he says that it was meant to be a poison pill. He was working with Jeff Sessions to prevent any pathway to legal status.

it still makes him a liar because he said back then that he sincerely thought that it would improve the bill and its chance of passing.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:39 pm

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Jafar is an ISIS field commander and everyone knows it!

We have fair reason to, uh, believe that the Sultan is, uh, working with Al-Qaeda. We all know genies hate our freedom!
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:50 pm

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/gop-trump-putin-216949
Former Romney advisor on Trump: He's a seriously damaged individual who is deeply insecure and needs attention and praise and the source doesn't matter.”
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:56 pm

Geilinor wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/gop-trump-putin-216949
Former Romney advisor on Trump: He's a seriously damaged individual who is deeply insecure and needs attention and praise and the source doesn't matter.”


Calling Mexicans rapist drug dealers that all need to deported boosted his poll ratings.
Calling for a global blockade of Muslims boosted his ratings.
Bromancing Putin may ironically be the one thing that counts as Going Too Far for the Tea Party base.
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Postby Idzequitch » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:03 pm


To be fair, that same poll found 19% of Dems to support the same.

The telling fact: Among Republicans who support bombing the hell out of Aladdin, Trump has 45% support.
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Postby Romalae » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:07 pm

Gauthier wrote:Bromancing Putin may ironically be the one thing that counts as Going Too Far for the Tea Party base.

I doubt it. Unless, of course, you're suggesting that they perceive it as a homoerotic display.

The honeymoon with Trump would be over if they walked in on him in the penthouse of the Trump Tower and found Putin there in drag.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:08 pm

Idzequitch wrote:

To be fair, that same poll found 19% of Dems to support the same.

The telling fact: Among Republicans who support bombing the hell out of Aladdin, Trump has 45% support.


What is more concerning to me is that people are stupid.

How do you not know that that is a fictional country?
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:08 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:To be fair, that same poll found 19% of Dems to support the same.

The telling fact: Among Republicans who support bombing the hell out of Aladdin, Trump has 45% support.


What is more concerning to me is that people are stupid.

How do you not know that that is a fictional country?


It sounds Ayrab, it's good enough for them.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:09 pm

Romalae wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Bromancing Putin may ironically be the one thing that counts as Going Too Far for the Tea Party base.

I doubt it. Unless, of course, you're suggesting that they perceive it as a homoerotic display.

The honeymoon with Trump would be over if they walked in on him in the penthouse of the Trump Tower and found Putin there in drag.


Just panties. Putin likes going barechested.
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If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Romalae » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:10 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:How do you not know that that is a fictional country?

I mean, many Americans certainly don't even know actual countries, so it's not exactly far-fetched.

Gauthier wrote:
Romalae wrote:I doubt it. Unless, of course, you're suggesting that they perceive it as a homoerotic display.

The honeymoon with Trump would be over if they walked in on him in the penthouse of the Trump Tower and found Putin there in drag.


Just panties. Putin likes going barechested.

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Postby Idzequitch » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:11 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:To be fair, that same poll found 19% of Dems to support the same.

The telling fact: Among Republicans who support bombing the hell out of Aladdin, Trump has 45% support.


What is more concerning to me is that people are stupid.

How do you not know that that is a fictional country?

And these people get to vote. :? Who decided democracy was a good idea, anyway?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:30 pm

Idzequitch wrote:

To be fair, that same poll found 19% of Dems to support the same.

The telling fact: Among Republicans who support bombing the hell out of Aladdin, Trump has 45% support.


Yes, we do have a smaller percentage of utter idiots, though they do still haunt the party.

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Postby The Klishi Islands » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:46 pm

Decided not to quote the post because I'm on mobile and the formatting would be messy.

But I just read ASB's post. Thanks for bringing some sense into this argument. I can only wonder if I can drill that message into my father's head...

Anywho, when are you going to update that prediction in your signature? It's a bit overdue. You could at least cut out the Walker...
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Postby Novus America » Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:29 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:To be fair, that same poll found 19% of Dems to support the same.

The telling fact: Among Republicans who support bombing the hell out of Aladdin, Trump has 45% support.


What is more concerning to me is that people are stupid.

How do you not know that that is a fictional country?


Well I find more disconcerting is people support bombing places just for the hell of it.

Most people do not know every country, the bigger problem is they do not care and the would bomb just for the sake of bombing. We have reached where a fair number in both parties support bombing as an end, rather than a means to an end. Just bomb on general principles.
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Postby Rhodesialund » Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:27 pm

Idzequitch wrote:And these people get to vote. :? Who decided democracy was a good idea, anyway?


"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others." -Winston S. Churchill

Democracy may have it's flaws, but it's the best kind of government for the people.
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Postby The Klishi Islands » Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:33 pm

Rhodesialund wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:And these people get to vote. :? Who decided democracy was a good idea, anyway?


"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others." -Winston S. Churchill

Democracy may have it's flaws, but it's the best kind of government for the people.


"A witty saying proves nothing." -Voltaire :p
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:27 pm

So is George Pataki actually running for president? There are a number of states on which he has not even tried to get on the primary ballot.
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Postby Roski » Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:06 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:To be fair, that same poll found 19% of Dems to support the same.

The telling fact: Among Republicans who support bombing the hell out of Aladdin, Trump has 45% support.


What is more concerning to me is that people are stupid.

How do you not know that that is a fictional country?

They polled 531 people, probably in Tea Party territory, i think the margin of error is extremely significant.
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:26 am

So I listened to the GOP debate, and it turns out that Trump isn't the craziest one. Oh Chris Christie, why are you even running?

(Voted Rand Paul in the poll, his policy is the only one that makes sense as a whole. Same goes for Bernie Sanders)
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:02 am

Geilinor wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/gop-trump-putin-216949
Former Romney advisor on Trump: He's a seriously damaged individual who is deeply insecure and needs attention and praise and the source doesn't matter.”

i'd have to say that that is spot on. if you like Donald, Donald will like you no matter how forcefully it is pointed out that you kill journalists and political enemies.
whatever

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:52 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Geilinor wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/gop-trump-putin-216949
Former Romney advisor on Trump: He's a seriously damaged individual who is deeply insecure and needs attention and praise and the source doesn't matter.”

i'd have to say that that is spot on. if you like Donald, Donald will like you no matter how forcefully it is pointed out that you kill journalists and political enemies.


And then watch a hydrogen logic bomb detonate the second al'Baghdadi declares his love for Trump.
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