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Postby Esternial » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:39 am

Lady Scylla wrote:God, topics in General today are just uninteresting. I need my mental stimulation dammit!

I try.

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Postby Asmikland » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:40 am

Lady Scylla wrote:God, topics in General today are just uninteresting. I need my mental stimulation dammit!

They're usually either uninteresting or... really silly.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:42 am

Asmikland wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:God, topics in General today are just uninteresting. I need my mental stimulation dammit!

They're usually either uninteresting or... really silly.


There's a few gems, every once in awhile, but it's mostly been the same regurgitated trash for daaaaays.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:42 am

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Hurdegaryp wrote:After having read your message carefully, it appears you are in need of copulation.

It'd be nice, but me bloody fiance's somewhere else in England. :meh:

Right now I mean, not permanently or anything. :p

Obligations tend to do that to a person.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Asmikland » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:43 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Asmikland wrote:They're usually either uninteresting or... really silly.


There's a few gems, every once in awhile, but it's mostly been the same regurgitated trash for daaaaays.

Oh, true. But yeah, there's been barely anything worth wasting time on lately. :P
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:43 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Asmikland wrote:They're usually either uninteresting or... really silly.

There's a few gems, every once in awhile, but it's mostly been the same regurgitated trash for daaaaays.

Give it a bit of time and sooner or later you'll discover that it has mostly been the same regurgitated trash for YEARS.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Jochistan » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:50 am

Lady Scylla wrote:God, topics in General today are just uninteresting. I need my mental stimulation dammit!

the alternative is so much worse.
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Postby Dog Bole » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:01 pm

Why are vegans so self righteous? They are more annoying than teen boys who just discovered fascism and think they know everything.
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Postby Asmikland » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:03 pm

Dog Bole wrote:Why are vegans so self righteous? They are more annoying than teen boys who just discovered fascism and think they know everything.

I'd love to know that too.
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Postby Jochistan » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:08 pm

Dog Bole wrote:Why are vegans so self righteous? They are more annoying than teen boys who just discovered fascism and think they know everything.

because they think they're more humane by not killing to consume.

And will soon make the evolutionary leap to full autotroph.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:09 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:There's a few gems, every once in awhile, but it's mostly been the same regurgitated trash for daaaaays.

Give it a bit of time and sooner or later you'll discover that it has mostly been the same regurgitated trash for YEARS.


It's a bit more refined than it was when I was last here. :p

I'm just a weird person, I get a sort of high from a good debate, and right now I'm just uggggh.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:10 pm

Dog Bole wrote:Why are vegans so self righteous? They are more annoying than teen boys who just discovered fascism and think they know everything.


There's a few nice ones, however, they think they've the moral high ground, despite the fact that their lifestyle is only possible because of our modern society, and they would have died out a loooooong time ago otherwise.

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Postby Dog Bole » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:10 pm

Jochistan wrote:
Dog Bole wrote:Why are vegans so self righteous? They are more annoying than teen boys who just discovered fascism and think they know everything.

because they think they're more humane by not killing to consume.

And will soon make the evolutionary leap to full autotroph.

But they do kill. By consuming a plant, they deny a living thing food.
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Postby Italios » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:11 pm

Dog Bole wrote:Why are vegans so self righteous? They are more annoying than teen boys who just discovered fascism and think they know everything.

Because they think they are saving the poor, baby animals from the death that will come to them sooner or later anyway.
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Postby Dog Bole » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:12 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Dog Bole wrote:Why are vegans so self righteous? They are more annoying than teen boys who just discovered fascism and think they know everything.


There's a few nice ones, however, they think they've the moral high ground, despite the fact that their lifestyle is only possible because of our modern society, and they would have died out a loooooong time ago otherwise.

The modern society they usually hate.

And aforementioned vegans are driving me from the Reds. Too many vegans and hardcore SJWs.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:14 pm

Dog Bole wrote:
Jochistan wrote:because they think they're more humane by not killing to consume.

And will soon make the evolutionary leap to full autotroph.

But they do kill. By consuming a plant, they deny a living thing food.

A better question would be, Do plants and trees have some sentience?

http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/n ... out-plants

And if they do, what right does a vegan claim to eat them?
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Postby Italios » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:16 pm

Dog Bole wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
There's a few nice ones, however, they think they've the moral high ground, despite the fact that their lifestyle is only possible because of our modern society, and they would have died out a loooooong time ago otherwise.

The modern society they usually hate.

And aforementioned vegans are driving me from the Reds. Too many vegans and hardcore SJWs.

Another thing that bothers me: humans are an essential part of the food chain and ecosystem, and have been from the beginning. Suddenly changing the food chain will have drastic effects. As long as the animal is killed for good reason - like, I don't know, food - I see no problem with it. Because we have other substitutes for fur clothes nowadays in most societies, fur clothes I don't like. Also, hunting solely for the purpose of the animal's head.
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Postby Dog Bole » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:18 pm

Italios wrote:
Dog Bole wrote:The modern society they usually hate.

And aforementioned vegans are driving me from the Reds. Too many vegans and hardcore SJWs.

Another thing that bothers me: humans are an essential part of the food chain and ecosystem, and have been from the beginning. Suddenly changing the food chain will have drastic effects. As long as the animal is killed for good reason - like, I don't know, food - I see no problem with it. Because we have other substitutes for fur clothes nowadays in most societies, fur clothes I don't like. Also, hunting solely for the purpose of the animal's head.

"BUHT ITZ UPRRESIN"

I agree with fur and sport hunting. I myself like to hunt, but I eat what I kill.
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Postby Gallade » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:18 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Dog Bole wrote:But they do kill. By consuming a plant, they deny a living thing food.

A better question would be plants and trees have some sentience.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/n ... out-plants

And if they do, what right does a vegan claim to eat them?

Technically they're usually just non-lethally consuming plant testicles.

The disgusting freaks.
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Postby Dog Bole » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:20 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Dog Bole wrote:But they do kill. By consuming a plant, they deny a living thing food.

A better question would be plants and trees have some sentience.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/n ... out-plants

And if they do, what right does a vegan claim to eat them?

Trust me, it's somehow different. Like how it's different to insult Western countries, but heaven forbid you call Afghanistan backwater.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:21 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Give it a bit of time and sooner or later you'll discover that it has mostly been the same regurgitated trash for YEARS.

It's a bit more refined than it was when I was last here. :p

I'm just a weird person, I get a sort of high from a good debate, and right now I'm just uggggh.

When it ain't ugh, it ain't NationStates General. Maybe I should start a thread called "Sarcasm Should Be Banned" in order to see who decides to jump on that instant trainwreck in progress.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Gallade » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:22 pm

Italios wrote:
Dog Bole wrote:The modern society they usually hate.

And aforementioned vegans are driving me from the Reds. Too many vegans and hardcore SJWs.

Another thing that bothers me: humans are an essential part of the food chain and ecosystem, and have been from the beginning. Suddenly changing the food chain will have drastic effects. As long as the animal is killed for good reason - like, I don't know, food - I see no problem with it. Because we have other substitutes for fur clothes nowadays in most societies, fur clothes I don't like. Also, hunting solely for the purpose of the animal's head.

Barring the furs of animals we've hunted for food or population control, I hope. Otherwise you're reeeeeeally not gonna like the contents of my wardrobe.
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Postby Italios » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:22 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:It's a bit more refined than it was when I was last here. :p

I'm just a weird person, I get a sort of high from a good debate, and right now I'm just uggggh.

When it ain't ugh, it ain't NationStates General. Maybe I should start a thread called "Sarcasm Should Be Banned" in order to see who decides to jump on that instant trainwreck in progress.

Good try, Hurde. We know youre just jealous of other people's talent at making wisecracks.
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Postby Immoren » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:22 pm

Why I am reminded about that group of hippies in Futurama who taught lion to eat tofu.
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Sad thing that apparently that joke has basis in real life.
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