Advertisement

by Imperii Magna » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:59 pm

by Liberty and Linguistics » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:12 pm

by Kraylandia » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:13 pm
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
He isn't the only one, I can track my ancestry back to the late 1300's in Scotland.
Indeed. On my paternal side, I can trade my ancestry to the 1500s in both Germany and Scotland.
My maternal side is more complicated, it was just a bunch of Swedish farmers and somehow some Swedish nobility.


by Newzie » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:14 pm

by Conscentia » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:16 pm
Lady Scylla wrote:Conscentia wrote:Should the English start specifying whether their earliest ancestors on the isles were Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Norsemen, Normans, ... ?
America has been settled for many generations, it's been over 200 years since it's independence was declared, and America has it's own distinct culture(s) that children born there are raised into and immigrants are expected to assimilate into. At this point, people can most definitely say that they have "American" ancestors.
American culture and identity is an "identity of identities" as it was intended to be. I don't see why that would be a hot button issue with you. Immigration to the US didn't cease in 1776, and has been a major contributor to the nation and its unique cultural identity.
| Misc. Test Results And Assorted Other | The NSG Soviet Last Updated: Test Results (2018/02/02) | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |

by Hariko » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:19 pm
Darkesia wrote:It's an attitude, I think. TWP and TP are like Order and Chaos. Two sides. Of the same coin. TP runs a tight ship. So does TWP. TWP just does it in a tutu and propeller hat while doing vector calculus.

by Conscentia » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:19 pm
| Misc. Test Results And Assorted Other | The NSG Soviet Last Updated: Test Results (2018/02/02) | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |

by Zaldakki » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:19 pm
Conscentia wrote:Lady Scylla wrote:American culture and identity is an "identity of identities" as it was intended to be. I don't see why that would be a hot button issue with you. Immigration to the US didn't cease in 1776, and has been a major contributor to the nation and its unique cultural identity.
Why would you think it's a hot button issue? Because I contradicted you?
"American" is not an "identity of identities". America has an identity of it's own, and those born in the USA to families that have been American for generation were raised into it - they do not possess a foreign identity nor do their ancestors who were themselves born into American culture.
Immigration into Britain didn't cease after the Norman conquest. Foreign influence has been a major contributor to Britain and it's cultural identity. If people may not have "American" ancestors, then they cannot have "British" or even "English" ancestors either.

by Conscentia » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:26 pm
Zaldakki wrote:Conscentia wrote:Why would you think it's a hot button issue? Because I contradicted you?
"American" is not an "identity of identities". America has an identity of it's own, and those born in the USA to families that have been American for generation were raised into it - they do not possess a foreign identity nor do their ancestors who were themselves born into American culture.
Immigration into Britain didn't cease after the Norman conquest. Foreign influence has been a major contributor to Britain and it's cultural identity. If people may not have "American" ancestors, then they cannot have "British" or even "English" ancestors either.
Identifying as plain old American is just too boring because no ancient or medieval history (my opinion)
| Misc. Test Results And Assorted Other | The NSG Soviet Last Updated: Test Results (2018/02/02) | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |

by Conscentia » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:51 pm
| Misc. Test Results And Assorted Other | The NSG Soviet Last Updated: Test Results (2018/02/02) | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |

by Internationalist Bastard » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:56 pm

by Colonial Rhodesia » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:06 pm

by Conscentia » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:08 pm
| Misc. Test Results And Assorted Other | The NSG Soviet Last Updated: Test Results (2018/02/02) | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |

by Conscentia » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:15 pm
| Misc. Test Results And Assorted Other | The NSG Soviet Last Updated: Test Results (2018/02/02) | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |

by Giovenith » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:16 pm

by Zaldakki » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:18 pm
Conscentia wrote:Zaldakki wrote:I know, but I'm talking about how you identify them. I think of my American ancestors as Irish Americans, English Americans, French Americans, etc.
So am I.
If you're American ancestors have been born and raised in America for generations, I am very sceptical that even a trace of Irish/English/French culture remains. To identify them as Europeans is preposterous.

by Conscentia » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:19 pm
| Misc. Test Results And Assorted Other | The NSG Soviet Last Updated: Test Results (2018/02/02) | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
Advertisement
Users browsing this forum: Aggicificicerous, Al-Momenta, American Legionaries, Emotional Support Crocodile, Floofybit, Galactic Powers, Gravlen, Habsburg Mexico, Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum, Hurdergaryp, Ifreann, Juansonia, La Xinga, Narland, Necroghastia, Paddy O Fernature, Philadelippines, Rostavykhan, Senkaku, Shrillland, The Black Forrest, Usapathe, Valyxias, Violetist Britannia, Walksburg, West green Israel, Xind
Advertisement