Petition to ban Donald Trump from UK reaches 300,000

[Thanatttynia]

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What ideas are these? Building a wall across the Mexican border? Closing off the internet?

I am sure people have thought about how ridiculous it actually sounds to make a wall even greater than the Great Wall of China.

Unfortunately it seems like a lot of people haven't.

[Gauthier]

I am sure people have thought about how ridiculous it actually sounds to make a wall even greater than the Great Wall of China.

Apparently Trump has a cunning plan in order to make Mexico pay for a wall that keeps the Mexicans out of God's Greatest Country. Knowing Trump, it probably involves nukes.

Or somehow bankrupting Mexico.

[Thanatttynia]

Apparently Trump has a cunning plan in order to make Mexico pay for a wall that keeps the Mexicans out of God's Greatest Country. Knowing Trump, it probably involves nukes.

Or somehow bankrupting Mexico.

Or both? Trump's not one for going half on anything.

[Hurdegaryp]

Or somehow bankrupting Mexico.

Or both? Trump's not one for going half on anything.

And if there's something that Trump knows everything about, it's bankrupting other people's properties.

[Calimera II]

Sooooooooooo, why exactly should NSG care?

[Kington Langley]

Haha, ridiculous.

If he wins what are you Brits gonna do? Ban the president of the US from entering your nation? Lmao.

Yes, we would. Because becoming the president of some country on the other side of the world would not make him any less of a lunatic. It would just make him a lunatic with access to nuclear weapons.

[Brandenbourg-Anhalt]

How stupid and incompetent is the petition system over in the UK if only 100,000 signatures merit deliberation by the British legislative bodies?

It's called participatory democracy where people can be directly engaged in policy-making between elections and their opinions are guaranteed to be considered by the politicians. Nobody says the parliamentarians have to vote in favour of the proposed ban, but the people is given a voice between elections. That way people can stop complaining that "uuh, the big evil monster Government never listens to its people! Big evil Government only wants to oppress me because I can't have everything my way".

[Calimera II]

Haha, ridiculous.

If he wins what are you Brits gonna do? Ban the president of the US from entering your nation? Lmao.

Yes, we would. Because becoming the president of some country on the other side of the world would not make him any less of a lunatic. It would just make him a lunatic with access to nuclear weapons.

Yes, that is totally normal to do. Uhum, yep, will definitely happen. Yeaa-aa.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Actually, I can't find anything that suggests Trump is a racist. Care to elaborate how he is a racist?

Well he hate's mexicans

To be fair, that's light as compared to how we have returned the fire since he has chosen to engage in insults.

[SinusInfectionia]

Actually, I can't find anything that suggests Trump is a racist. Care to elaborate how he is a racist?

His proposed ethnic cleansing campaigns tend to be a clue.

Exaggeration much?

Actually, I can't find anything that suggests Trump is a racist. Care to elaborate how he is a racist?

Well he hate's mexicans

"Huffingtonpost"

Oh boy here we go

9 He Called Latino Immigrants "Criminals" And "Rapists"

8 He Said Mexicans (And Other Immigrants) Were "Killers" Too
He's talking about the illegal immigrants who are coming in from Mexico.

Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we're getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They're sending us not the right people.

It's coming from more than Mexico. It's coming from all over South and Latin America, and it's coming probably -- probably -- from the Middle East. But we don't know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don't know what's happening. And it's got to stop and it's got to stop fast.

7 He Insisted The Mexican Government Intentionally Sends Their Criminals To The U.S.

Maybe not but https://www.cfif.org/htdocs/legislative ... ooklet.htm

6 He 'Provided Evidence' That Latino Immigrants Were Rapists
Again, he's speaking about illegals.
5 He Took A Jab At Jeb Bush Over His Mexican-Born Wife
4 He Brought Up Jeb Bush's Wife Again Less Than Two Months Later
Not even racist.
3 He Said His Followers Were “Passionate” After Being Told Two Men Beat A Hispanic Man In His Name

"Donald Trump was right," the two men said, according to police, as they beat the man with a metal pipe and then urinated on him. "All these illegals need to be deported."

Trump tweeted on Friday that the incident was "terrible."

"We need energy and passion, but we must treat each other with respect," Trump said.

Boston incident is terrible. We need energy and passion, but we must treat each other with respect. I would never condone violence.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 21, 2015

\2 He Kicked Jorge Ramos Out Of A Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsVB_Ys_eZs
Yeah, Ramos was rude and acted like a dick. I would have done the same.
1 He Blamed Blacks And Hispanics For Violent Crime Across The Country

Sadly, the overwhelming amount of violent crime in our major cities is committed by blacks and hispanics-a tough subject-must be discussed.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 5, 2013

Facts are racist?

All he wants is legal immigration and enforce the law by deporting illegals. There isn't anything racist about that.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

His proposed ethnic cleansing campaigns tend to be a clue.

Exaggeration much?

Well he hate's mexicans

"Huffingtonpost"

Oh boy here we go

9 He Called Latino Immigrants "Criminals" And "Rapists"

8 He Said Mexicans (And Other Immigrants) Were "Killers" Too
He's talking about the illegal immigrants who are coming in from Mexico.

Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we're getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They're sending us not the right people.

It's coming from more than Mexico. It's coming from all over South and Latin America, and it's coming probably -- probably -- from the Middle East. But we don't know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don't know what's happening. And it's got to stop and it's got to stop fast.

7 He Insisted The Mexican Government Intentionally Sends Their Criminals To The U.S.

Maybe not but https://www.cfif.org/htdocs/legislative ... ooklet.htm

6 He 'Provided Evidence' That Latino Immigrants Were Rapists
Again, he's speaking about illegals.
5 He Took A Jab At Jeb Bush Over His Mexican-Born Wife
4 He Brought Up Jeb Bush's Wife Again Less Than Two Months Later
Not even racist.
3 He Said His Followers Were “Passionate” After Being Told Two Men Beat A Hispanic Man In His Name

"Donald Trump was right," the two men said, according to police, as they beat the man with a metal pipe and then urinated on him. "All these illegals need to be deported."

Trump tweeted on Friday that the incident was "terrible."

"We need energy and passion, but we must treat each other with respect," Trump said.

Boston incident is terrible. We need energy and passion, but we must treat each other with respect. I would never condone violence.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 21, 2015

\2 He Kicked Jorge Ramos Out Of A Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsVB_Ys_eZs
Yeah, Ramos was rude and acted like a dick. I would have done the same.
1 He Blamed Blacks And Hispanics For Violent Crime Across The Country

Sadly, the overwhelming amount of violent crime in our major cities is committed by blacks and hispanics-a tough subject-must be discussed.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 5, 2013

Facts are racist?

All he wants is legal immigration and enforce the law by deporting illegals. There isn't anything racist about that.

This is conveniently forgetting the Congressional findings which point out that illegal immigrants are usually less likely to become violent criminals, and that their statistics of crime are so minimal as to be a joke.

Further, it ignores the fact that Hispanics don't commit as much crime as other people in the country as an entire demographic -- white people included, and that since the immigration debates of years prior we have been one of the favorite demographics to racially profile and stereotypize second to black people.

However, thank you for letting us know you can't be bothered to read the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports (which are publicly available) to confirm Trump's bullshit.

[Vassenor]

So we're saying that a person who is basically quoting from Mein Kampf only with all the mentions of "Jews" replaced with "Mexicans" or "Muslims" isn't racist?

[Ugatoo]

So we're saying that a person who is basically quoting from Mein Kampf only with all the mentions of "Jews" replaced with "Mexicans" or "Muslims" isn't racist?

Jews and Muslims aren't races of people.

[Ethel mermania]

Or both? Trump's not one for going half on anything.

And if there's something that Trump knows everything about, it's bankrupting other people's properties.

More so his own.

[Ethel mermania]

So we're saying that a person who is basically quoting from Mein Kampf only with all the mentions of "Jews" replaced with "Mexicans" or "Muslims" isn't racist?

You wanna source he is quoting from me in kampf?

[Ugatoo]

So we're saying that a person who is basically quoting from Mein Kampf only with all the mentions of "Jews" replaced with "Mexicans" or "Muslims" isn't racist?

You wanna source he is quoting from me in kampf?

You wanna learn the definition of "basically"? It's clearly hyperbole.

[Ethel mermania]

You wanna source he is quoting from me in kampf?

You wanna learn the definition of "basically"? It's clearly hyperbole.

So that makes moronic statements ok?

[Ugatoo]

You wanna learn the definition of "basically"? It's clearly hyperbole.

So that makes moronic statements ok?

Yes hyperbole is a readily accepted part of the English language.

[Neutraligon]

So we're saying that a person who is basically quoting from Mein Kampf only with all the mentions of "Jews" replaced with "Mexicans" or "Muslims" isn't racist?

Jews and Muslims aren't races of people.

Judaism is somewhat of a race even as it is also a religion since it is part based on if the mother is Jewish. According to Jewish tradition, even a non practicing person whose mother was Jewish is still Jewish. Technically even if they practice a different religion they are still Jewish. Muslims are similar where it is based on the father. This is different from Christianity where it is not based on the religion of the parent. It can be said that Judaism and Islam are ethnic religions. Islam tends to allow for more converts, but the discrimination tends to be based on how the Muslim looks (ie their race) rather than if they are actually Muslim. This is why there is still discrimination against those like Sikhs who "look similar" even when they are not Muslim.

[Valaran]

Jews and Muslims aren't races of people.

Judaism is somewhat of a race even as it is also a religion since it is part based on if the mother is Jewish. According to Jewish tradition, even a non practicing person whose mother was Jewish is still Jewish. Technically even if they practice a different religion they are still Jewish [...] It can be said that Judaism and Islam are ethnic religions.

Being somewhat prone to pedanticism on this (sorry), I wouldn't quite go as far as 'ethnic religions'. There is quite a wide disparity in ethnicity in Judaism - most notably between branches of Sephardic and Ashkenazi judaism, as well as other branches entirely such as beta Israel (Ethiopian Jews), Bene Israel (Indian Jews) and the Mizrahim. Judaism consists of composite ethnicities rather than one 'race', though each individual branch is somewhat ethnic.

However, due the stuff you raised, I would certainly agree in saying there is an ethnic component to different branches of Judaism.

[Hurdegaryp]

Judaism is somewhat of a race even as it is also a religion since it is part based on if the mother is Jewish. According to Jewish tradition, even a non practicing person whose mother was Jewish is still Jewish. Technically even if they practice a different religion they are still Jewish [...] It can be said that Judaism and Islam are ethnic religions.

Being somewhat prone to pedanticism on this (sorry), I wouldn't quite go as far as 'ethnic religions'. There is quite a wide disparity in ethnicity in Judaism - most notably between branches of Sephardic and Ashkenazi judaism, as well as other branches entirely such as beta Israel (Ethiopian Jews), Bene Israel (Indian Jews) and the Mizrahim. Judaism consists of composite ethnicities rather than one 'race', though each individual branch is somewhat ethnic.

However, due the stuff you raised, I would certainly agree in saying there is an ethnic component to different branches of Judaism.

Yeah, the majority of people subscribing to Judaism are Caucasian, just like the people in the Middle East and Europe. Amazing, is it not?

[SinusInfectionia]

This is conveniently forgetting the Congressional findings which point out that illegal immigrants are usually less likely to become violent criminals, and that their statistics of crime are so minimal as to be a joke.

Further, it ignores the fact that Hispanics don't commit as much crime as other people in the country as an entire demographic -- white people included, and that since the immigration debates of years prior we have been one of the favorite demographics to racially profile and stereotypize second to black people.

However, thank you for letting us know you can't be bothered to read the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports (which are publicly available) to confirm Trump's bullshit.

Gonna need a source


sadly I can't find anything on the FBI's UCR. Actually, unless I'm looking wrong, I can't find anything regarding Hispanics. Aren't they put in the same category as whites? Anyways, a source would be much appreciated.

[Ugatoo]

This is conveniently forgetting the Congressional findings which point out that illegal immigrants are usually less likely to become violent criminals, and that their statistics of crime are so minimal as to be a joke.

Further, it ignores the fact that Hispanics don't commit as much crime as other people in the country as an entire demographic -- white people included, and that since the immigration debates of years prior we have been one of the favorite demographics to racially profile and stereotypize second to black people.

However, thank you for letting us know you can't be bothered to read the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports (which are publicly available) to confirm Trump's bullshit.

Gonna need a source


sadly I can't find anything on the FBI's UCR. Actually, unless I'm looking wrong, I can't find anything regarding Hispanics. Aren't they put in the same category as whites? Anyways, a source would be much appreciated.

Scroll to the right.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

This is conveniently forgetting the Congressional findings which point out that illegal immigrants are usually less likely to become violent criminals, and that their statistics of crime are so minimal as to be a joke.

Further, it ignores the fact that Hispanics don't commit as much crime as other people in the country as an entire demographic -- white people included, and that since the immigration debates of years prior we have been one of the favorite demographics to racially profile and stereotypize second to black people.

However, thank you for letting us know you can't be bothered to read the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports (which are publicly available) to confirm Trump's bullshit.

Gonna need a source


sadly I can't find anything on the FBI's UCR. Actually, unless I'm looking wrong, I can't find anything regarding Hispanics. Aren't they put in the same category as whites? Anyways, a source would be much appreciated.

We're placed under the ethnic category of Latino but in one of the other races, as per the link Ugatoo placed.

Gonna need a source


sadly I can't find anything on the FBI's UCR. Actually, unless I'm looking wrong, I can't find anything regarding Hispanics. Aren't they put in the same category as whites? Anyways, a source would be much appreciated.

Scroll to the right.

Thanks, I was looking for it and not doing a good job since I'm still groggy from waking up from a nap.

[Valaran]

Being somewhat prone to pedanticism on this (sorry), I wouldn't quite go as far as 'ethnic religions'. There is quite a wide disparity in ethnicity in Judaism - most notably between branches of Sephardic and Ashkenazi judaism, as well as other branches entirely such as beta Israel (Ethiopian Jews), Bene Israel (Indian Jews) and the Mizrahim. Judaism consists of composite ethnicities rather than one 'race', though each individual branch is somewhat ethnic.

However, due the stuff you raised, I would certainly agree in saying there is an ethnic component to different branches of Judaism.

Yeah, the majority of people subscribing to Judaism are Caucasian, just like the people in the Middle East and Europe. Amazing, is it not?

hm?
Is your point that Jews are ethnically homogenous, or was it something I missed?