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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:28 pm

Minoa wrote:459,081 signatures so far.

The suggestion by Trump of forcing Muslim Americans to register in a database and wear a special form of identification is what crossed the line in my opinion.


Wait, that crossed the line?!

You guys have a really high tolerance for being British of us American colonials.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:30 pm

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Hurdegaryp wrote:Serves the USA right for being a two party state.


This is what happens when you don't listen to George Washington! BAD THINGS HAPPEN!!!

LIKE TRUMP RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!

Washington was still alive when the two party system began, unfortunately he couldn't do anything about it.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:30 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Kauthar wrote:Because any of the democrats and libertarians are any smarter :roll:


To be fair to all parties involved, at least none of the other candidates think our country is in the shitter just because this is not the 1920s.

I have qualms with all of them, but one thing I have to give to them is that they're not spelling doom and gloom for current times and that we should wind back the clock.

Didn't you know?

This Country™ was so much better back when it was rife with consumption, polio and poorly-enforced labour laws!
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:33 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Minoa wrote:459,081 signatures so far.

The suggestion by Trump of forcing Muslim Americans to register in a database and wear a special form of identification is what crossed the line in my opinion.

Wait, that crossed the line?!

You guys have a really high tolerance for being British of us American colonials.

When it comes to US politics, many Europeans have become incredibly jaded. Many watch & read the news while thinking "yup, that's a typical example of Americans being extremely American in the most American of ways". You could say that it is quite the achievement for Trump to rise above the default level of American insanity as perceived by the cynics outside the borders of the USA.
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Postby Olivaero » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:02 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Minoa wrote:459,081 signatures so far.

The suggestion by Trump of forcing Muslim Americans to register in a database and wear a special form of identification is what crossed the line in my opinion.


Wait, that crossed the line?!

You guys have a really high tolerance for being British of us American colonials.

Before that he sounded a lot like some one who could of been a member of UKIP after that he sounded like he belonged in the BNP and you should of seen how we crucified the leader of the BNP on live television when they were apparently making gains.
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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:09 pm

Haha, ridiculous.

If he wins what are you Brits gonna do? Ban the president of the US from entering your nation? Lmao.

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Postby Geilinor » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:12 pm

Trollgaard wrote:Haha, ridiculous.

If he wins what are you Brits gonna do? Ban the president of the US from entering your nation? Lmao.

He's not the president and he never well be. Not if most Americans have anything to say about it.
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Postby Southern Patriots » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:12 pm

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I agree. So who decides that? Me the right-center neoconservative monetarist? You? Hitler? Etc.?

I mean I agree the guy is an asshole who says stupid things. So your solution is to not let him come to the UK? Are you fucking kidding me?

It does seem extremely childish.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:13 pm

Given how Great Britain would probably have executed any of the first presidents of the USA if they ever had made the mistake of going to dear old Blighty, I don't see why it should be a problem to simply keep a highly hypothetical president Trump out of the country if you don't want him around.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:14 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Some people are just lying wankers. They should be treated as such.


I agree. So who decides that? Me the right-center neoconservative monetarist? You? Hitler? Etc.?

I mean I agree the guy is an asshole who says stupid things. So your solution is to not let him come to the UK? Are you fucking kidding me?

If they can stop extremist Muslim preachers, why not Trump?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:14 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:Given how Great Britain would probably have executed any of the first presidents of the USA if they ever had made the mistake of going to dear old Blighty, I don't see why it should be a problem to simply keep a highly hypothetical president Trump out of the country if you don't want him around.

Of course Trump will ride the US right into the ground if he ever does get the top job, so we just bide our time to reclaim the 13 colonies and work our way from there.
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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:19 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:Haha, ridiculous.

If he wins what are you Brits gonna do? Ban the president of the US from entering your nation? Lmao.

He's not the president and he never well be. Not if most Americans have anything to say about it.


We will see.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:27 pm

I'm not sure why there is so much vitriol against Trump.

Sure he may have said some racist things, but there's usually at least some statistical basis for at least some of what he says (even if he does tend to speak in hyperboles).

Furthermore, why should the UK discriminate against him personally for his beliefs? Kind of a juvenile proposal to be honest; if anything they should be more worried about screening out potential terrorists in their immigration policies, given the recent attacks on Paris. You would think there are more important priorities here.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:32 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:I'm not sure why there is so much vitriol against Trump.

Sure he may have said some racist things, but there's usually at least some statistical basis for at least some of what he says (even if he does tend to speak in hyperboles).

Furthermore, why should the UK discriminate against him personally for his beliefs? Kind of a juvenile proposal to be honest; if anything they should be more worried about screening out potential terrorists in their immigration policies, given the recent attacks on Paris. You would think there are more important priorities here.

Like how dogs still haven't been banned, for example. That is a real priority, Infected Mushroom style.
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Postby SinusInfectionia » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:37 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:I'm not sure why there is so much vitriol against Trump.

Sure he may have said some racist things, but there's usually at least some statistical basis for at least some of what he says (even if he does tend to speak in hyperboles).

Furthermore, why should the UK discriminate against him personally for his beliefs? Kind of a juvenile proposal to be honest; if anything they should be more worried about screening out potential terrorists in their immigration policies, given the recent attacks on Paris. You would think there are more important priorities here.

I agree with your post but I don't remember Trump saying anything racist. He tends to exaggerate yeah but racist? i don't know.

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Postby Thanatttynia » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:41 pm

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Infected Mushroom wrote:I'm not sure why there is so much vitriol against Trump.

Sure he may have said some racist things, but there's usually at least some statistical basis for at least some of what he says (even if he does tend to speak in hyperboles).

Furthermore, why should the UK discriminate against him personally for his beliefs? Kind of a juvenile proposal to be honest; if anything they should be more worried about screening out potential terrorists in their immigration policies, given the recent attacks on Paris. You would think there are more important priorities here.

I agree with your post but I don't remember Trump saying anything racist. He tends to exaggerate yeah but racist? i don't know.

No, he's a racist; it's pretty well documented.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:42 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:I'm not sure why there is so much vitriol against Trump.

Sure he may have said some racist things, but there's usually at least some statistical basis for at least some of what he says (even if he does tend to speak in hyperboles).

Furthermore, why should the UK discriminate against him personally for his beliefs? Kind of a juvenile proposal to be honest; if anything they should be more worried about screening out potential terrorists in their immigration policies, given the recent attacks on Paris. You would think there are more important priorities here.


Well, if he was just racist, sure; I mean, we've had presidents saying stupid racist shit before.

His proposals however take it to a whole new level when even his own party is like "dude, what the fuck?"
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:44 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I'm not sure why there is so much vitriol against Trump.

Sure he may have said some racist things, but there's usually at least some statistical basis for at least some of what he says (even if he does tend to speak in hyperboles).

Furthermore, why should the UK discriminate against him personally for his beliefs? Kind of a juvenile proposal to be honest; if anything they should be more worried about screening out potential terrorists in their immigration policies, given the recent attacks on Paris. You would think there are more important priorities here.


Well, if he was just racist, sure; I mean, we've had presidents saying stupid racist shit before.

His proposals however take it to a whole new level when even his own party is like "dude, what the fuck?"


I'm honestly not completely opposed to all of his ideas, some of them sound like they could be interesting to try politically

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Postby Thanatttynia » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:46 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Well, if he was just racist, sure; I mean, we've had presidents saying stupid racist shit before.

His proposals however take it to a whole new level when even his own party is like "dude, what the fuck?"


I'm honestly not completely opposed to all of his ideas, some of them sound like they could be interesting to try politically

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What ideas are these? Building a wall across the Mexican border? Closing off the internet?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:47 pm

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Soldati senza confini wrote:
Well, if he was just racist, sure; I mean, we've had presidents saying stupid racist shit before.

His proposals however take it to a whole new level when even his own party is like "dude, what the fuck?"


I'm honestly not completely opposed to all of his ideas, some of them sound like they could be interesting to try politically


There's a reason why we still don't have drones impaling spikes through people's torsos from mid air, you know.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:50 pm

Thanatttynia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I'm honestly not completely opposed to all of his ideas, some of them sound like they could be interesting to try politically

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What ideas are these? Building a wall across the Mexican border? Closing off the internet?


I am sure people have thought about how ridiculous it actually sounds to make a wall even greater than the Great Wall of China.
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Postby SinusInfectionia » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:51 pm

Thanatttynia wrote:
SinusInfectionia wrote:I agree with your post but I don't remember Trump saying anything racist. He tends to exaggerate yeah but racist? i don't know.

No, he's a racist; it's pretty well documented.

Actually, I can't find anything that suggests Trump is a racist. Care to elaborate how he is a racist?

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:52 pm

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Thanatttynia wrote:No, he's a racist; it's pretty well documented.

Actually, I can't find anything that suggests Trump is a racist. Care to elaborate how he is a racist?

His proposed ethnic cleansing campaigns tend to be a clue.
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Postby Ugatoo » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:53 pm

SinusInfectionia wrote:
Thanatttynia wrote:No, he's a racist; it's pretty well documented.

Actually, I can't find anything that suggests Trump is a racist. Care to elaborate how he is a racist?

Well he hate's mexicans
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:53 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Thanatttynia wrote:???????????????????????????????????????
What ideas are these? Building a wall across the Mexican border? Closing off the internet?

I am sure people have thought about how ridiculous it actually sounds to make a wall even greater than the Great Wall of China.

Apparently Trump has a cunning plan in order to make Mexico pay for a wall that keeps the Mexicans out of God's Greatest Country. Knowing Trump, it probably involves nukes.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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