Merkel is Time's person of the year

[Jordkloden]

Why not?
Its been a while since a German chancellor that would go on to ruin their country was nominated.

How funny.

[Kraylandia]

We already have a thread for this.

[Luminesa]

AWWWWW. *Snaps finger.*

...Can we vote him again? Pweese?

AT LEAST HE'S BETTER THAN MERKEL!!!

Better than Merkel? Is Merkel worse than the leader of an institution based around misogyny, homophobia, sexual repression, and incidentally happens to have a few pedophile cabals?

(I don't really care much about Merkel, but I really really dislike the Pope.)

We don't hate gays, we don't hate sex, we don't hate women (heck, I am one!), and we'd working to fix the pedophilia thing.

And Merkel won't let refugees in, whereas Pope Francis has called for everyone to care for the poor and oppressed, and has called for a YEAR OF MERCY in the Church. So yeah...I think Merkel's the one with her heart in the wrong place.

[The Alexanderians]

They should only be taking the doctors/engineers other technical professionals and sending the rest back to Syria to be honest.

Honestly, that's even worse than taking no one, because the rest will be stuck back in Syria not only in a civil war environment, and all the doctors, engineers, and techs will be gone.

Because that's what you want to do when you have a crisis situation: remove all the doctors.

Well I mean you could argue everyone dies faster and therefor suffering ends faster...you could but I won't...

[Jordkloden]

And Merkel won't let refugees in, whereas Pope Francis has called for everyone to care for the poor and oppressed, and has called for a YEAR OF MERCY in the Church. So yeah...I think Merkel's the one with her heart in the wrong place.

But she is though.

[Valaran]

Makes sense.

[Kraylandia]

And Merkel won't let refugees in, whereas Pope Francis has called for everyone to care for the poor and oppressed, and has called for a YEAR OF MERCY in the Church. So yeah...I think Merkel's the one with her heart in the wrong place.

But she is though.

Yeah, way too many.

[Luminesa]

And Merkel won't let refugees in, whereas Pope Francis has called for everyone to care for the poor and oppressed, and has called for a YEAR OF MERCY in the Church. So yeah...I think Merkel's the one with her heart in the wrong place.

But she is though.

Okay, now I'm confused. Some people are saying she did and others said she wouldn't. Which one is it?

[Ifreann]

Aww, I wanted to be Person Of The Year again.

[Kraylandia]

But she is though.

Okay, now I'm confused. Some people are saying she did and others said she wouldn't. Which one is it?

Try looking up the facts for yourself instead of listening to others. She's letting refugees in, quite a fucking lot actually.

[Val Halla]

Aww, I wanted to be Person Of The Year again.

You're not a person for crying out loud. Otherwise I would have won.

[Ifreann]

Aww, I wanted to be Person Of The Year again.

You're not a person for crying out loud. Otherwise I would have won.

You did. In 2006.

[Val Halla]

You're not a person for crying out loud. Otherwise I would have won.

You did. In 2006.

I thought that You Magazine had just become a human being for a year

[Jumalariik]

I didn't know that the woman who brought in a bunch of people that will give no good to Europe should be the Time's person of the year. Her actions have yet to play out. Maybe they will be good, maybe they won't. But then again, some aspects have already been disastrous. After Sweden's massive immigration, the rape rate has increased substantially.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigrati ... ime#Sweden
So Mama Merkel may not be the greatest person in the world of 2015.
Then again, they have a nice love of putting powerful German Chancellors who do disastrous things for Europe as person of the year. (Hitler anybody?)

In my mind, a better person for the person of the year would be Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali

It's just the most important person of the year. Not the "best", and I certainly wouldn't call your choice either.

If it's just judged on importance, why not Donald Trump then?



Guys, keel rolling with the Merkel-Hitler jokes, they are funny. Though I would prefer more variety in them.

[Valaran]

It's just the most important person of the year. Not the "best", and I certainly wouldn't call your choice either.

If it's just judged on importance, why not Donald Trump then?

I wouldn't have said he was as important. Saying controversial things and being a candidate for POTUS isn't as significant as running the world's 4th richest nation, and having major influence from Syria, to Ukraine and the EU, not her role in the Eurocrisis and with migrants.

[Luminesa]

Okay, now I'm confused. Some people are saying she did and others said she wouldn't. Which one is it?

Try looking up the facts for yourself instead of listening to others. She's letting refugees in, quite a fucking lot actually.

Okay! Geez, no need to get angry at me! I don't pay that much attention to Germany anyway. Gosh...cool your heels, Kray.

[Zeinbrad]

The Bible out of context.

Just as you take the Qur'an out of context.

Notice how people against Islam (or religion in general) always talk about the Qur'an or Bible?

[Valaran]

Try looking up the facts for yourself instead of listening to others. She's letting refugees in, quite a fucking lot actually.

Okay! Geez, no need to get angry at me! I don't pay that much attention to Germany anyway. Gosh...cool your heels, Kray.

Not to say that this is purely the result of Merkels actions (far from it), but if you wanted a source, Germany is set to have 1-1.5 million asylum claims this year.

[Kraylandia]

Try looking up the facts for yourself instead of listening to others. She's letting refugees in, quite a fucking lot actually.

Okay! Geez, no need to get angry at me! I don't pay that much attention to Germany anyway. Gosh...cool your heels, Kray.

Sorry Lum, you didn't deserve that.

[The Wolven League]

It's just the most important person of the year. Not the "best", and I certainly wouldn't call your choice either.

If it's just judged on importance, why not Donald Trump then?



Guys, keel rolling with the Merkel-Hitler jokes, they are funny. Though I would prefer more variety in them.

He came in third. Besides, he hasn't actually done anything important. He's said a lot of shit, but he hasn't done really anything to change the course of history.

[Luminesa]

Okay! Geez, no need to get angry at me! I don't pay that much attention to Germany anyway. Gosh...cool your heels, Kray.

Not to say that this is purely the result of Merkels actions (far from it), but if you wanted a source, Germany is set to have 1-1.5 million asylum claims this year.

Ah. This helps. Thanks, Val.

Okay, this is ridiculous. The other countries need to help take in refugees, too. Germany can't take all of them. :/

[Olivaero]

I'd say Merkels a pretty good candidate, the refugee issue is actually a pretty good solution to Germany's falling birthrate to bring about a more high growth regime assuming you think that's a good thing of course. It also has the advantage of not being a morally reprehensible action like say.... turning away the refugees would be.

[Valaran]

Not to say that this is purely the result of Merkels actions (far from it), but if you wanted a source, Germany is set to have 1-1.5 million asylum claims this year.

Ah. This helps. Thanks, Val.

Okay, this is ridiculous. The other countries need to help take in refugees, too. Germany can't take all of them. :/

No worries c:

Effectively that was idea in the EU's resettlement plan - to distribute numbers of refugees across the bloc. However, it was only for 120,000 and was (to some degree), forced through. Though, honestly getting even that far was an achievement.

The thing is, most migrants (and this is a generalisation), don't want to stay in Greece, or in Bulgaria. They typically head to France/UK/Germany/Scandinavia if they can. But the EU's legislation required them to register at the countries they first joined, creating natural friction between who has to actually deal with them. Just to take a recent example of this friction.

I won't go into more detail, since its complex as fuck. But basically, the EU system for dealing with migrant is broken, and to some degree, this is the result.

[Luminesa]

Ah. This helps. Thanks, Val.

Okay, this is ridiculous. The other countries need to help take in refugees, too. Germany can't take all of them. :/

No worries c:

Effectively that was idea in the EU's resettlement plan - to distribute numbers of refugees across the bloc. However, it was only for 120,000 and was (to some degree), forced through. Though, honestly getting even that far was an achievement.

The thing is, most migrants (and this is a generalisation), don't want to stay in Greece, or in Bulgaria. They typically head to France/UK/Germany/Scandinavia if they can. But the EU's legislation required them to register at the countries they first joined, creating natural friction between who has to actually deal with them. Just to take a recent example of this friction.

I won't go into more detail, since its complex as fuck. But basically, the EU system for dealing with migrant is broken, and to some degree, this is the result.

Ahhhh, because Greece is having so many problems of their own, and Bulgaria...I don't know, what happens in Bulgaria?

Yeeeaaaah, the EU needs some major changes in how they run things...good grief. One of the worst migrant crises in a long time and the EU is completely clueless.

[The Serbian Empire]

No worries c:

Effectively that was idea in the EU's resettlement plan - to distribute numbers of refugees across the bloc. However, it was only for 120,000 and was (to some degree), forced through. Though, honestly getting even that far was an achievement.

The thing is, most migrants (and this is a generalisation), don't want to stay in Greece, or in Bulgaria. They typically head to France/UK/Germany/Scandinavia if they can. But the EU's legislation required them to register at the countries they first joined, creating natural friction between who has to actually deal with them. Just to take a recent example of this friction.

I won't go into more detail, since its complex as fuck. But basically, the EU system for dealing with migrant is broken, and to some degree, this is the result.

Ahhhh, because Greece is having so many problems of their own, and Bulgaria...I don't know, what happens in Bulgaria?

Yeeeaaaah, the EU needs some major changes in how they run things...good grief. One of the worst migrant crises in a long time and the EU is completely clueless.

Bulgaria's one of the poorest EU members.