Merkel is Time's person of the year

[Hirota]

Just as you take the Qur'an out of context.

Quran (2:191-193)
out of context

Take the religious squabbling elsewhere. Stay on topic.

[Italios]

Just as you take the Qur'an out of context.

Quran (2:191-193)
out of context

http://christianity.stackexchange.com/q ... tify-the-c

out of context

[Kraylandia]

Because Christians advocate death in their holy books too.

HAHAHAHHAHAA

Doesn't mean they follow it word for word, right? That applies to Muslims, you have extremists in all religions. And yes Christians should integrate more in Muslim countries, for example.

[Liriena]

I would have preferred Sanders, and I have some issues with Merkel (namely, her inexcusable obstructionism on LGBT+ rights), but it makes some sense.

[Visegradian Poland]

So do you think Trump and Putin are good people?

There's a difference between not liking someone because you personally find them bad and someone actually being bad, and Trump and Putin are actually bad. Hitler-like is an overstatement but they're up them.

Soley out if viewpoints, Putin and Trump are close to fascist, and both are bigoted towards a lot of minorities.

Guess the Polish government's fascist too...

[Sanctissima]

So what, the Old Testament is now considered to not be biblical?

Well, there goes half the Bible.

It's not commands, it's history. It is biblical. Doesn't have to be followed.

My point exactly. Just because it's there, doesn't mean it has to be followed, whether one prescribes to said religion or not.

So why do you think all Muslims must follow everything in their holy book in particular? Bit of a double standard, don't you think?

[MERIZoC]

Oh yes, they do have violent commands. Judaism and Christianity are, in true Abrahamic form, incredibly violent, oppressive, intolerant, etc.

Show me a verse that commands future Chrsitians to do those things.

"And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman."

[The Wolven League]

Why though?

Because their culture is vile.

Define "their culture". I agree with honor killings and such (that they are vile), but that's one part that isn't some huge thing every one does.

[Kraylandia]

Why though?

Because their culture is vile.

Not really recommended that you debate that way on NSG. Moderators don't tend to take kindly to that.

[Visegradian Poland]

HAHAHAHHAHAA

Doesn't mean they follow it word for word, right? That applies to Muslims, you have extremists in all religions. And yes Christians should integrate more in Muslim countries, for example.

Because the Old Testamnt isn't supposed to be followed for Christians, unlike the quran.

[The Tabula Rasa Islands]

Donald Trump should run for Japanese Prime Minister, where his fascist brethren live.

[Italios]

So do you think Trump and Putin are good people?

There's a difference between not liking someone because you personally find them bad and someone actually being bad, and Trump and Putin are actually bad. Hitler-like is an overstatement but they're up them.

Soley out if viewpoints, Putin and Trump are close to fascist, and both are bigoted towards a lot of minorities.

Kauther has a point, they haven't actually killed 4 million. But they're definitely bad, though. A comparison to Hitler I understand but saying they're as bad as him is an overstatement.

[Visegradian Poland]

Because their culture is vile.

Define "their culture". I agree with honor killings and such (that they are vile), but that's one part that isn't some huge thing every one does.

In the Middle East, yes.

[The Tabula Rasa Islands]

Donald Trump should run for Japanese Prime Minister, where his fascist brethren live.

Don't take that seriously

[Napkiraly]

Show me a verse that commands future Chrsitians to do those things.

Deuteronomy 17
"If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die."

Here's another favourite of mine.

"Make ready to slaughter the infidel’s sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and possess the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants." - Isaiah 14:21.

[Visegradian Poland]

Show me a verse that commands future Chrsitians to do those things.

"And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman."

Death, as in spiritual death. Unlike the quran's version of death.

[Visegradian Poland]

Deuteronomy 17
"If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die."

Here's another favourite of mine.

"Make ready to slaughter the infidel’s sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and possess the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants." - Isaiah 14:21.

Not for future Christians.

[The Wolven League]

Define "their culture". I agree with honor killings and such (that they are vile), but that's one part that isn't some huge thing every one does.

In the Middle East, yes.

Way to over-generalize. You're saying everyone in the Middle East commits honor killings? Seriously?

And again, define "their culture".

[Visegradian Poland]

It's not commands, it's history. It is biblical. Doesn't have to be followed.

My point exactly. Just because it's there, doesn't mean it has to be followed, whether one prescribes to said religion or not.

So why do you think all Muslims must follow everything in their holy book in particular? Bit of a double standard, don't you think?

Because they're supposed to follow the quran. it's not a double standard.

[Visegradian Poland]

In the Middle East, yes.

Way to over-generalize. You're saying everyone in the Middle East commits honor killings? Seriously?

And again, define "their culture".

The culture of them.

[The Wolven League]

Here's another favourite of mine.

"Make ready to slaughter the infidel’s sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and possess the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants." - Isaiah 14:21.

Not for future Christians.

It does not explicitly mention a generation.

[Visegradian Poland]

Not for future Christians.

It does not explicitly mention a generation.

It was for a certain group of people.

[The Wolven League]

Way to over-generalize. You're saying everyone in the Middle East commits honor killings? Seriously?

And again, define "their culture".

The culture of them.

I mean, define what you think are key tenants of Middle Eastern culture.

[The Wolven League]

My point exactly. Just because it's there, doesn't mean it has to be followed, whether one prescribes to said religion or not.

So why do you think all Muslims must follow everything in their holy book in particular? Bit of a double standard, don't you think?

Because they're supposed to follow the quran. it's not a double standard.

So Christians shouldn't follow the Bible?

[Visegradian Poland]

The culture of them.

I mean, define what you think are key tenants of Middle Eastern culture.

Islamic sharia law. And goats.