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Postby Arlenton » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:05 pm

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Postby Titel der Stadt » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:09 pm

Barboneia wrote:I wasn't sure if this belonged in the Republican Primaries Megathread or if someone's already posted about it, but this seems to be an interesting development.

So according to the White House, Trump's recent statement about banning all Muslims from entering the country disqualifies him from running for the presidency, citing it as violating the oath every president must make. However, the White House hasn't officially banned him from running, as his campaign still seems to be in full speed. But say he were to get enough votes and won, then what? I'm not exactly sure, but the White House's statement seems like it'd be a pretty heavy blow to Trump support. What do you think, NSG? Is this the end to Trump's run?

It should be. It is against the oath, because the oath says, "and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Trumps statements go against the first amendment.
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Postby Ugatoo » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:12 pm

Titel der Stadt wrote:
Barboneia wrote:I wasn't sure if this belonged in the Republican Primaries Megathread or if someone's already posted about it, but this seems to be an interesting development.

So according to the White House, Trump's recent statement about banning all Muslims from entering the country disqualifies him from running for the presidency, citing it as violating the oath every president must make. However, the White House hasn't officially banned him from running, as his campaign still seems to be in full speed. But say he were to get enough votes and won, then what? I'm not exactly sure, but the White House's statement seems like it'd be a pretty heavy blow to Trump support. What do you think, NSG? Is this the end to Trump's run?

It should be. It is against the oath, because the oath says, "and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Trumps statements go against the first amendment.

To play devils advocate amendments can be amended.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:12 pm

Titel der Stadt wrote:
Barboneia wrote:I wasn't sure if this belonged in the Republican Primaries Megathread or if someone's already posted about it, but this seems to be an interesting development.

So according to the White House, Trump's recent statement about banning all Muslims from entering the country disqualifies him from running for the presidency, citing it as violating the oath every president must make. However, the White House hasn't officially banned him from running, as his campaign still seems to be in full speed. But say he were to get enough votes and won, then what? I'm not exactly sure, but the White House's statement seems like it'd be a pretty heavy blow to Trump support. What do you think, NSG? Is this the end to Trump's run?

It should be. It is against the oath, because the oath says, "and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Trumps statements go against the first amendment.

But per the first amendment the government cannot make a law on what you can and cannot say, also the government cannot say who can and who cannot run for president.
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Postby Ugatoo » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:14 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Titel der Stadt wrote:It should be. It is against the oath, because the oath says, "and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Trumps statements go against the first amendment.

But per the first amendment the government cannot make a law on what you can and cannot say, also the government cannot say who can and who cannot run for president.

Except for that part where the government says you have to have been born in the US to run for president.
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Postby Valaran » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:15 pm

Ugatoo wrote:To play devils advocate amendments can be amended.


Its all fun and games until someone has a Trump card.
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:15 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Titel der Stadt wrote:It should be. It is against the oath, because the oath says, "and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Trumps statements go against the first amendment.

But per the first amendment the government cannot make a law on what you can and cannot say, also the government cannot say who can and who cannot run for president.


The voters can.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:15 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:But per the first amendment the government cannot make a law on what you can and cannot say, also the government cannot say who can and who cannot run for president.


The voters can.

Not saying they can't, just to clarify I don't want any republican, with the possible exception of Chris Christie, in the White House.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:16 pm

Ugatoo wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:But per the first amendment the government cannot make a law on what you can and cannot say, also the government cannot say who can and who cannot run for president.

Except for that part where the government says you have to have been born in the US to run for president.

True
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:16 pm

Please don't. I can't think of a better guarantee for Democratic victory than Trump running as the Republican candidate.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:18 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:Please don't. I can't think of a better guarantee for Democratic victory than Trump running as the Republican candidate.

Any current front running republican will guarantee a Democratic victory
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Postby Valaran » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:18 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:Please don't. I can't think of a better guarantee for Democratic victory than Trump running as the Republican candidate.



That's my normal line, but Trump is so bad right now that I'm worried he'll drag parts of the debate and popular opinion with him. Maybe not win (though even a risk of that is terrifying), but still shift the race in line with some of his warped views, and make them seem 'normal', or 'popular'. I don't think I'd even want the chance of him getting the GOP nomination.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:19 pm

Valaran wrote:
Ugatoo wrote:To play devils advocate amendments can be amended.


Its all fun and games until someone has a Trump card.

Hurh durh
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Postby Lordareon » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:19 pm

"FREEDOM... IS THE SOVEREIGN RIGHT OF EVERY AMERICAN

We need a strong leader who will show the world that we are not be pushed around and that they should kowtow or BE ERADICATED we need to look after are own people ad when this nation is in a good state then help others.

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Postby Valaran » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:20 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Its all fun and games until someone has a Trump card.

Hurh durh


My humour isn't exactly razor sharp at 3am :P
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:20 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:Please don't. I can't think of a better guarantee for Democratic victory than Trump running as the Republican candidate.

Why can't Trump supporters get this!?

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:21 pm

Lordareon wrote:"FREEDOM... IS THE SOVEREIGN RIGHT OF EVERY AMERICAN

We need a strong leader who will show the world that we are not be pushed around and that they should kowtow or BE ERADICATED we need to look after are own people ad when this nation is in a good state then help others.

Wha? Um could you please speak in coherent sentences
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Postby Atomic Utopia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:21 pm

Lordareon wrote:"FREEDOM... IS THE SOVEREIGN RIGHT OF EVERY AMERICAN

We need a strong leader who will show the world that we are not be pushed around and that they should kowtow or BE ERADICATED we need to look after are own people ad when this nation is in a good state then help others.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:22 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Please don't. I can't think of a better guarantee for Democratic victory than Trump running as the Republican candidate.

Why can't Trump supporters get this!?

I for one like that they don't
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Postby Roski » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:24 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Why can't Trump supporters get this!?

I for one like that they don't


I don't

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Postby TVRlandia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:25 pm

I honestly think what Trump is up to is getting Hillary elected. I believe his plan is to displace the chances of all valid Republican candidates from getting traction in the polls. He then creates a monster that gains traction which makes the Right look loony. When it is too late for a valid Republican candidate to gain traction against Hillary, Trump will step aside and the relief will create a groundswell for Clinton's election.

My question is what was he promised by Hillary for his charade he is so perfectly executing?

For the record, I am a die-hard Republican, but Trump is losing the election for "us" who are centrist.

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Postby Valaran » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:27 pm

Roski wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I for one like that they don't


I don't

I despise Hillary and Bernie

#StandWithRand



Well then.
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:28 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Why can't Trump supporters get this!?

I for one like that they don't

Guess it's payback for Ralph Nader 2000.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:29 pm

Roski wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I for one like that they don't


I don't

I despise Hillary and Bernie

#StandWithRand

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:30 pm

TVRlandia wrote:I honestly think what Trump is up to is getting Hillary elected. I believe his plan is to displace the chances of all valid Republican candidates from getting traction in the polls. He then creates a monster that gains traction which makes the Right look loony. When it is too late for a valid Republican candidate to gain traction against Hillary, Trump will step aside and the relief will create a groundswell for Clinton's election.

My question is what was he promised by Hillary for his charade he is so perfectly executing?

For the record, I am a die-hard Republican, but Trump is losing the election for "us" who are centrist.

I have to ask what valid republican?
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