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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:25 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Mass shootings no longer even provoke a reaction from me.

What a wonderful world.
the lack of gun control makes these shootings so commom,Conservatives want this to be a fact of life,for some reason.

The thing is that this is in California, where there are 90 day waiting periods, mandatory background checks, a bullet button for ejectable magazines and an assault weapons ban, and it still happens.

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Postby Crysuko » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:25 pm

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Crysuko wrote:yes, let's let the maniacs buy a gun whenever they want to. nothing bad could come of that, hyuck!


Your reading comprehension could use some work.

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Postby Gauthier » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:26 pm

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Of course, that's a pretty unfair portrayal of Republicans as a whole, but it still makes me smile.

If someone told me the GOP was actually composed of vampires, I wouldn't be surprised at this point.

This is like, what, the third shooting this week?

I've seen broken records that didn't repeat this much.


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Eh, I watched some live footage that showed one of the cretins on the floor bleeding a good distance from the SUV. I obviously knew something you didn't. Sorry for being an ass.

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Postby Gauthier » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:27 pm

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Neither would the average Good Guy with a Gun. Let's stop pretending life is a video game.


I never said it would so stop shitposting.


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Postby The Corparation » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:27 pm

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:the lack of gun control makes these shootings so commom,Conservatives want this to be a fact of life,for some reason.

The thing is that this is in California, where there are 90 day waiting periods, mandatory background checks, a bullet button for ejectable magazines and an assault weapons ban, and it still happens.

Actually it's a ten day waiting period in California. Or a day trip to Arizona where literally none of the restrictions you mention exist.
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Postby Crysuko » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:27 pm

Gauthier wrote:
New Grestin wrote:If someone told me the GOP was actually composed of vampires, I wouldn't be surprised at this point.

This is like, what, the third shooting this week?

I've seen broken records that didn't repeat this much.


Ever noticed Donald Trump avoids bright lights? It's like he's scared he'll sparkle.

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Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

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Postby Ardoki » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:27 pm

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Ardoki wrote:It would cause US police and justice system to ruthlessly pursue and prosecute everyone involved in this attack, effectively destroying the cartel permanently.

Apart from Trump-style ramblings about Latinos/Hispanics, do you have any evidence to support your cartel theory?

You can threaten them with judicial action all you want, but corruption and just the shear numbers, money, and power of the cartel, can make cartels much more difficult to fight with the legal processes. Plus in the areas the operate they can easily bribe local judges and officials to keep them quiet.

I don't have any more evidence than anyone else. Only inclinations, and knowing that, in California, the cartels have been getting bolder and more active. Plus they'd have the manpower and resources to organise and obtain the proper resources and equipment to pull this off.

Plus its not really a political target, and its a soft target that poses little risk of fighting back or security. An easy target to send a message...We won't know until law enforcement confirms anything relevant, but that's my inclination. Cartels or Political Radicals.

It occurred in the United States. While in countries such as Mexico the cartels do have a lot of power and influence over the justice system, in the US the police are basically a paramilitary who break the law constantly (not to mention the over-zealous prosecutors).

Not to mention how the majority of Americans would instantly support giving up loads of freedom, in order for the government to protect them threats (like what happened after 11/9).
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Postby New Grestin » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:28 pm

Gauthier wrote:
New Grestin wrote:If someone told me the GOP was actually composed of vampires, I wouldn't be surprised at this point.

This is like, what, the third shooting this week?

I've seen broken records that didn't repeat this much.


Ever noticed Donald Trump avoids bright lights? It's like he's scared he'll sparkle.

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Postby Noraika » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:28 pm

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:the lack of gun control makes these shootings so commom,Conservatives want this to be a fact of life,for some reason.

The thing is that this is in California, where there are 90 day waiting periods, mandatory background checks, a bullet button for ejectable magazines and an assault weapons ban, and it still happens.

Its easy to smuggle in guns when there's not a universal policy across a nation. I knew people who can just go to Nevada, get assault weapons, and then bring them back over the border with no checks.

Much easier than if you try to get weapons into a nation from outside said nation.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:29 pm

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I never said it would so stop shitposting.


You first.

tbf you beat people over the head with the 'good guy with a gun' narrative every fucking thread when I actually can't even remember the last time I saw someone earnestly using that argument. So yes Gauth. It's time to stop shitposting.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:29 pm

New Grestin wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Ever noticed Donald Trump avoids bright lights? It's like he's scared he'll sparkle.

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Well, if Captain Picard can fence...
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:30 pm

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:the lack of gun control makes these shootings so commom,Conservatives want this to be a fact of life,for some reason.

The thing is that this is in California, where there are 90 day waiting periods, mandatory background checks, a bullet button for ejectable magazines and an assault weapons ban, and it still happens.

California also has open roads to Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, and through them to the entire continental United States.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:30 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
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You first.

tbf you beat people over the head with the 'good guy with a gun' narrative every fucking thread when I actually can't even remember the last time I saw someone earnestly using that argument. So yes Gauth. It's time to stop shitposting.


Every Fucking Thread? Even the ones that have absolutely nothing to do with gun violence? Do tell.
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Postby Luziyca » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:30 pm

This is becoming too depressingly common, just like police brutality in the states. While I send my condolences, while I want there to be restrictions, I feel that Americans will only do the right thing and impose strict gun control after they tried everything else.
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Postby Sanctissima » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:31 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
New Grestin wrote:"Trump! I've come to stop you!"
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Well, if Captain Picard can fence...


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Postby Saldinado » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:31 pm

Correct me I'm wrong, but wasn't there another shooting either the beginning of this week or the weekend? If so, then I must say, that there's no doubt, that we need to do something about this. This is getting too out of hand. I just want to know how many people will have to be killed for the government to wrap their heads around the fact that the second amendment is being taken too far?
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Postby Noraika » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:32 pm

Ardoki wrote:It occurred in the United States. While in countries such as Mexico the cartels do have a lot of power and influence over the justice system, in the US the police are basically a paramilitary who break the law constantly (not to mention the over-zealous prosecutors).

Not to mention how the majority of Americans would instantly support giving up loads of freedom, in order for the government to protect them threats (like what happened after 11/9).

The country doesn't really change the reality. There's a lot of widespread poverty in California, and even more are struggling. There's everything that you need to get a good recruitment pool for organised crime. In addition, the cartels have been getting a lot more bold and active in places like Southern, and even Northern California. This includes (albeit rumours) rumours are that they're getting influence into the local governments.

It doesn't matter how heavy the enforcement may be really. They are able, even when properly charged, to dodge getting caught most of the time. They're damn good at what they do, and are highly organised.
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Postby Crysuko » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:32 pm

New Grestin wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Ever noticed Donald Trump avoids bright lights? It's like he's scared he'll sparkle.

"Trump! I've come to stop you!"
"Ah, Mr. Van Helsing! I see you've avoided the racist mobs."
"That's Bernie to you, Count. On guard!"

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This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

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Postby Camicon » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:32 pm

Luziyca wrote:This is becoming too depressingly common, just like police brutality in the states. While I send my condolences, while I want there to be restrictions, I feel that Americans will only do the right thing and impose strict gun control after they tried everything else.

At this point, I almost think that loosening gun restrictions across the nation, and then leveraging the resulting increase in gun violence to achieve real and substantial regulation, would save more lives in the long run.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:tbf you beat people over the head with the 'good guy with a gun' narrative every fucking thread when I actually can't even remember the last time I saw someone earnestly using that argument. So yes Gauth. It's time to stop shitposting.


Every Fucking Thread? Even the ones that have absolutely nothing to do with gun violence? Do tell.

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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
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Every Fucking Thread? Even the ones that have absolutely nothing to do with gun violence? Do tell.

Your ultra-reductionist jujitsu won't work on me, villainous Montague.


Fucking christ, I just nearly spilled my Gentlemen Jack over reading this.

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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
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Every Fucking Thread? Even the ones that have absolutely nothing to do with gun violence? Do tell.

Your ultra-reductionist jujitsu won't work on me, villainous Montague.


You're the one who said Every Fucking Thread. Proof?
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Postby Ardoki » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:35 pm

Luziyca wrote:This is becoming too depressingly common, just like police brutality in the states. While I send my condolences, while I want there to be restrictions, I feel that Americans will only do the right thing and impose strict gun control after they tried everything else.

I believe it was Winston Churchill who once said something along the lines of: "Americans will always do the right thing, once they've exhausted every other option."
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:36 pm

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The Lone Alliance wrote:It's also a soft target because disabled people aren't likely to fight back... though the golf course was also targeted, so that's up for debate on if someone at the golf course wasn't the real target and they just moved on after that.

LA is only sixty miles away, with no border controls or anything. Hell, just go to the front gates at Disneyland. This is probably not terrorism. Or if it is, then these guys aren't bright.


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