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Postby Nilla Wayfarers » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:19 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Nilla Wayfarers wrote:Yes. If Lib & Lin had said that, I would agree.
But acting like it's okay to suspect someone of terrorism simply because of their name is frankly wrong.


Whereas if it had been a whitebread name the first assumption would have been Mental Illness.

A lot of people would jump to that conclusion, unfortunately.
Some basic logic, though, would tell otherwise.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:19 pm

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I didn't know that. Thank you. The death of the suspects is now far more understandable.

This is NSG that isn't how this works. You made a false statement based on a misunderstanding due to lack of information on your part. We shot this down. You are supposed stick your original statement. It's no fun if you're reasonable when you are brought up date on the issue.

I posted no false statement. :blush:

Funny post, tho.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:19 pm

Kelinfort wrote:"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

It's also a soft target because disabled people aren't likely to fight back... though the golf course was also targeted, so that's up for debate on if someone at the golf course wasn't the real target and they just moved on after that.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:19 pm

CBS's reporting that a house to house search is underway. An "extreme number" of officers are out on the lookout.



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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:19 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:
I didn't know that. Thank you. The death of the suspects is now far more understandable.

This is NSG that isn't how this works. You made a false statement based on a misunderstanding due to lack of information on your part. We shot this down. You are supposed stick your original statement. It's no fun if you're reasonable when you are brought up date on the issue.


:lol:
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Postby Ardoki » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:20 pm

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Highly doubtful that cartel will go inside a governmental facility used for treatment of disabilities and start shooting up the place.

Cartels have a knack for ruthless and purposeless murder of innocents en masse. They don't even need a reason other than to spread fear to get people to do what they want, and mass killings certainly send a message that when they threaten to kill you they will act on it.

Perhaps the government offical in charge didn't give into demands or attempts at corruption or bribery, or perhaps the local government caught some of their members? Perhaps its not even cartels! I don't know, but for me, a cartel would have the resources to get access to the car and military equipment.

It would cause US police and justice system to ruthlessly pursue and prosecute everyone involved in this attack, effectively destroying the cartel permanently.

Apart from Trump-style ramblings about Latinos/Hispanics, do you have any evidence to support your cartel theory?
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Postby Crysuko » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:20 pm

Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Mass shootings no longer even provoke a reaction from me.

What a wonderful world.
the lack of gun control makes these shootings so commom,Conservatives want this to be a fact of life,for some reason.

this proves that the GOP are actually vampires who feed off of the blood and gore shed in the massacre
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This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

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Postby Vallermoore » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:20 pm

It sounds like it might be ISIS to me.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:21 pm

Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Mass shootings no longer even provoke a reaction from me.

What a wonderful world.
the lack of gun control makes these shootings so commom,Conservatives want this to be a fact of life,for some reason.

I'm not convinced more gun control would do a god damn thing.

I don't really give a shit either way, though. I have no effect or opinion on it. The world's a fucked up place.
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:21 pm

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Good.

I see "innocent until proven guilty" is out the window, and summary executions are perfectly fine.

He died in a standoff, not a summary execution.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:21 pm

I'm truly sad to hear this. My condolences and best wishes to all. You have to be an evil monster(s) to do such a thing.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:21 pm

Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Mass shootings no longer even provoke a reaction from me.

What a wonderful world.
the lack of gun control makes these shootings so commom,Conservatives want this to be a fact of life,for some reason.


Again, gun control probably wouldn't have stopped these people. Lets stop touting that stupid shit.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:21 pm

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Fartsniffage wrote:No. But I saw the reports that there was a firefight. I just assumed you had first hand information to disprove them?

I didn't see them. That's why I assumed the suspects didn't fire on the police. It's basic logic not to invent facts to support a conclusion.


Eh, I watched some live footage that showed one of the cretins on the floor bleeding a good distance from the SUV. I obviously knew something you didn't. Sorry for being an ass.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:21 pm

Vallermoore wrote:It sounds like it might be ISIS to me.

Why's that?
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:22 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:the lack of gun control makes these shootings so commom,Conservatives want this to be a fact of life,for some reason.


Again, gun control probably wouldn't have stopped these people. Lets stop touting that stupid shit.


Neither would the average Good Guy with a Gun. Let's stop pretending life is a video game.
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Postby Kelinfort » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:22 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

It's also a soft target because disabled people aren't likely to fight back... though the golf course was also targeted, so that's up for debate on if someone at the golf course wasn't the real target and they just moved on after that.

LA is only sixty miles away, with no border controls or anything. Hell, just go to the front gates at Disneyland. This is probably not terrorism. Or if it is, then these guys aren't bright.

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Postby Crysuko » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:22 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:the lack of gun control makes these shootings so commom,Conservatives want this to be a fact of life,for some reason.


Again, gun control probably wouldn't have stopped these people. Lets stop touting that stupid shit.

yes, let's let the maniacs buy a gun whenever they want to. nothing bad could come of that, hyuck!
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Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:23 pm

Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Mass shootings no longer even provoke a reaction from me.

What a wonderful world.
the lack of gun control makes these shootings so commom,Conservatives want this to be a fact of life,for some reason.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:23 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:the lack of gun control makes these shootings so commom,Conservatives want this to be a fact of life,for some reason.

this proves that the GOP are actually vampires who feed off of the blood and gore shed in the massacre

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Of course, that's a pretty unfair portrayal of Republicans as a whole, but it still makes me smile.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:23 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Again, gun control probably wouldn't have stopped these people. Lets stop touting that stupid shit.


Neither would the average Good Guy with a Gun. Let's stop pretending life is a video game.


I never said it would so stop shitposting.

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Postby Noraika » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:23 pm

Ardoki wrote:It would cause US police and justice system to ruthlessly pursue and prosecute everyone involved in this attack, effectively destroying the cartel permanently.

Apart from Trump-style ramblings about Latinos/Hispanics, do you have any evidence to support your cartel theory?

You can threaten them with judicial action all you want, but corruption and just the shear numbers, money, and power of the cartel, can make cartels much more difficult to fight with the legal processes. Plus in the areas the operate they can easily bribe local judges and officials to keep them quiet. Perhaps the reason for this is the capture of a cartel member?

I don't have any more evidence than anyone else. Only inclinations, and knowing that, in California, the cartels have been getting bolder and more active. Plus they'd have the manpower and resources to organise and obtain the proper resources and equipment to pull this off.

Plus its not really a political target, and its a soft target that poses little risk of fighting back or security. An easy target to send a message to a community that you don't defie or mess with cartels...We won't know until law enforcement confirms anything relevant, but that's my inclination. Cartels or Political Radicals.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:24 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Again, gun control probably wouldn't have stopped these people. Lets stop touting that stupid shit.

yes, let's let the maniacs buy a gun whenever they want to. nothing bad could come of that, hyuck!


Your reading comprehension could use some work.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:24 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:I didn't see them. That's why I assumed the suspects didn't fire on the police. It's basic logic not to invent facts to support a conclusion.


Eh, I watched some live footage that showed one of the cretins on the floor bleeding a good distance from the SUV. I obviously knew something you didn't. Sorry for being an ass.

I demand an apology cake.
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Postby The Isolationist State Of Islam » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:25 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
The Isolationist State Of Islam wrote:Maybe if the U.S enforced more, and effective background checks, less mass shootings would happen

We don't know if this is foreign or domestic terrorism yet.

My guess is domestic. Even they are ISIS terrorists, they're most likely a citizens of the U.S, as ISIS fighters are not supposed to leave the 'caliphate'. I'm going to also go ahead, and assume their guns was acquired locally. Though the black-market is quite possible.
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Postby New Grestin » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:25 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Crysuko wrote:this proves that the GOP are actually vampires who feed off of the blood and gore shed in the massacre

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Of course, that's a pretty unfair portrayal of Republicans as a whole, but it still makes me smile.

If someone told me the GOP was actually composed of vampires, I wouldn't be surprised at this point.

This is like, what, the third shooting this week?

I've seen broken records that didn't repeat this much.
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