Mass Shooting in California, 20 victims

[The Emerald Dawn]

M&P stands for Military and Police. It sounds odd, but Smith and Wesson are odd.

In this case I think it stands for Ma & Pa....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_M%26P
Though you may be making a joke.

[Alvecia]

In this case I think it stands for Ma & Pa....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_M%26P
Though you may be making a joke.

I was, yes.

[The Emerald Dawn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_M%26P
Though you may be making a joke.

I was, yes.

Sailed clean over my head until I wrote that last sentence.

[Alvecia]

I was, yes.

Sailed clean over my head until I wrote that last sentence.

[Gauthier]

The Latest: 4 guns used in California shooting were purchased legally, 1 buyer investigated

FOXNews so take it with a grain of salt, but if it's true then maybe the purchaser is a possible lead.

If this was an attack organized by any group they should have claimed responsibility by now. Even the attention whores in Daesh haven't made any public announcements about it.

[The Emerald Dawn]

The Latest: 4 guns used in California shooting were purchased legally, 1 buyer investigated

FOXNews so take it with a grain of salt, but if it's true then maybe the purchaser is a possible lead.

If this was an attack organized by any group they should have claimed responsibility by now. Even the attention whores in Daesh haven't made any public announcements about it.

Domestic trrrsts, they may have surprised everyone.

[Lupinus]

The Latest: 4 guns used in California shooting were purchased legally, 1 buyer investigated

FOXNews so take it with a grain of salt, but if it's true then maybe the purchaser is a possible lead.

If this was an attack organized by any group they should have claimed responsibility by now. Even the attention whores in Daesh haven't made any public announcements about it.

Domestic trrrsts, they may have surprised everyone.

The FBI has apparently taken over the investigation (source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... 14-people/ ) and they are still exploring possible connections to international terrorist groups. So it hasn't been ruled out.

My personal opinion is that this will turn out to be similar to the 2009 Ft. Hood shootings (a combination of a workplace dispute and radicalization).

[Asyir]

The Latest: 4 guns used in California shooting were purchased legally, 1 buyer investigated

FOXNews so take it with a grain of salt, but if it's true then maybe the purchaser is a possible lead.

If this was an attack organized by any group they should have claimed responsibility by now. Even the attention whores in Daesh haven't made any public announcements about it.

Maybe domestic terrorism?

[The Emerald Dawn]

Domestic trrrsts, they may have surprised everyone.

The FBI has apparently taken over the investigation (source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... 14-people/ ) and they are still exploring possible connections to international terrorist groups. So it hasn't been ruled out.

My personal opinion is that this will turn out to be similar to the 2009 Ft. Hood shootings (a combination of a workplace dispute and radicalization).

I'm still, and will always be, irritated about the military's response to the Ft. Hood shootings.

Withholding the Purple Heart from those injured there is the bullshittiest of all bullshit.

[Imsogone]

People with no information, with no real access to information, except what the media carefully doles out, keep trying to put their unique political crap spin on the shootings. Meanwhile, my friend is still unaccounted for. He wasn't among the wounded and, apparently wasn't among the dead, either.

What you all seem to be having trouble with is that, when it's a friend or friends, politics is crap. A friend is missing, politics be hanged.

[The Emerald Dawn]

People with no information, with no real access to information, except what the media carefully doles out, keep trying to put their unique political crap spin on the shootings. Meanwhile, my friend is still unaccounted for. He wasn't among the wounded and, apparently wasn't among the dead, either.

What you all seem to be having trouble with is that, when it's a friend or friends, politics is crap. A friend is missing, politics be hanged.

EVERYONE HOLD ON!

THIS PERSON HAS A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT WE ALL MUST PAY SERIOUS ATTENTION TO.

[Alyakia]

People with no information, with no real access to information, except what the media carefully doles out, keep trying to put their unique political crap spin on the shootings. Meanwhile, my friend is still unaccounted for. He wasn't among the wounded and, apparently wasn't among the dead, either.

What you all seem to be having trouble with is that, when it's a friend or friends, politics is crap. A friend is missing, politics be hanged.

EVERYONE HOLD ON!

THIS PERSON HAS A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT WE ALL MUST PAY SERIOUS ATTENTION TO.

well yeah it's a pretty serious issue did you even read it

[The Emerald Dawn]

EVERYONE HOLD ON!

THIS PERSON HAS A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT WE ALL MUST PAY SERIOUS ATTENTION TO.

well yeah it's a pretty serious issue did you even read it

No, I read it. What I'm not seeing is where people told him to sit and spin, or shut up and go away.

He didn't link to where a lot of people were pointing and laughing, or anything rude.

Flouncing in and telling everyone that we don't understand his pain isn't exactly the best way to garner a polite response.

[Lupinus]

The Latest: 4 guns used in California shooting were purchased legally, 1 buyer investigated

FOXNews so take it with a grain of salt, but if it's true then maybe the purchaser is a possible lead.

If this was an attack organized by any group they should have claimed responsibility by now. Even the attention whores in Daesh haven't made any public announcements about it.

Maybe domestic terrorism?

The male suspect had personal issues with his co-workers. He showed up at the Christmas party prior to the shooting and there was some kind of altercation between him and some of the party-goers.

So it is possible that had something to do with it. On the other hand, some of the other party-goers have described him as reserved and not suspicious to the media. In any case, the terrorist angle shouldn't be left out. They have a number of great leads in the investigation, since they've cleared their apartment and are going through any computers/literature they had. They also have the name of the person who purchased the firearms, so they will be looking for and questioning him.

They interviewed his father, and apparently Farook had become very religious over the past few years; he grew out a beard, started wearing religious clothing and traveled to Saudi Arabia, where he met the other suspect. That suggests some radicalization could have happened prior to the shooting (though that can also not be related).

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2453002
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... 28917.html

[Imsogone]

People with no information, with no real access to information, except what the media carefully doles out, keep trying to put their unique political crap spin on the shootings. Meanwhile, my friend is still unaccounted for. He wasn't among the wounded and, apparently wasn't among the dead, either.

What you all seem to be having trouble with is that, when it's a friend or friends, politics is crap. A friend is missing, politics be hanged.

EVERYONE HOLD ON!

THIS PERSON HAS A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT WE ALL MUST PAY SERIOUS ATTENTION TO.

Screw you asshole. I just found out, my friend is dead. He was one of the best people I knew, worth about 20 of people like you. He's dead. Screw your politics. Personal issue, you bet. It's when it becomes personal that it becomes real. Otherwise what you all are doing is just mental masturbation.

[Gauthier]

EVERYONE HOLD ON!

THIS PERSON HAS A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT WE ALL MUST PAY SERIOUS ATTENTION TO.

well yeah it's a pretty serious issue did you even read it

Pissing on people with actual stakes in ongoing events gives edge sharp enough to cut between atoms.

[The Emerald Dawn]

EVERYONE HOLD ON!

THIS PERSON HAS A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT WE ALL MUST PAY SERIOUS ATTENTION TO.

Screw you asshole. I just found out, my friend is dead. He was one of the best people I knew, worth about 20 of people like you. He's dead. Screw your politics.

I'd recommend going and speaking to a grief counselor then.

1-800-442-HOPE, or find someone locally.

Coming in here and lashing out isn't going to assist you at all.

[The Emerald Dawn]

well yeah it's a pretty serious issue did you even read it

Pissing on people with actual stakes in ongoing events gives edge sharp enough to cut between atoms.

Oh please. This isn't a thread dedicated to one person's supposed grief and/or suffering.

We're discussing the entire event, and turning this into everyone pay attention to person A isn't going to do piss-all except give people warm fuzzies.

[Galloism]

EVERYONE HOLD ON!

THIS PERSON HAS A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT WE ALL MUST PAY SERIOUS ATTENTION TO.

Screw you asshole. I just found out, my friend is dead. He was one of the best people I knew, worth about 20 of people like you. He's dead. Screw your politics.

I'm sorry imsogone.

If you need to chat I'll be around, and that's not an offer I make often.


Also, to everyone else, that offer is not now nor likely to be ever open.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

EVERYONE HOLD ON!

THIS PERSON HAS A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT WE ALL MUST PAY SERIOUS ATTENTION TO.

Screw you asshole. I just found out, my friend is dead. He was one of the best people I knew, worth about 20 of people like you. He's dead. Screw your politics. Personal issue, you bet. It's when it becomes personal that it becomes real. Otherwise what you all are doing is just mental masturbation.

Calm down, and go for a walk or something.

If you need to talk, my TG inbox is open, Gallo also extended the offer.

That said, my condolences.

[Lupinus]

Pissing on people with actual stakes in ongoing events gives edge sharp enough to cut between atoms.

Oh please. This isn't a thread dedicated to one person's supposed grief and/or suffering.

We're discussing the entire event, and turning this into everyone pay attention to person A isn't going to do piss-all except give people warm fuzzies.

I don't think it's entirely irrelevant. He's not trying to make the topic about him.

I used to live there, and while I don't directly know anyone who was a victim, some of my friends and acquaintances at work do. So I feel for him.

[The Black Forrest]

EVERYONE HOLD ON!

THIS PERSON HAS A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT WE ALL MUST PAY SERIOUS ATTENTION TO.

Screw you asshole. I just found out, my friend is dead. He was one of the best people I knew, worth about 20 of people like you. He's dead. Screw your politics. Personal issue, you bet. It's when it becomes personal that it becomes real. Otherwise what you all are doing is just mental masturbation.

Easy there. You should know NSG is not a place for consolation. Too many hipsters.

I would take a break for now. Leave it to telegrams.

*edit* Sorry. My reading skills are weak today.

Like Galo; I will chat with you as well. I know your pain as a cousin was a police officer and died in the line of duty a few months ago......

[Pohan-Vor]

People with no information, with no real access to information, except what the media carefully doles out, keep trying to put their unique political crap spin on the shootings. Meanwhile, my friend is still unaccounted for. He wasn't among the wounded and, apparently wasn't among the dead, either.

What you all seem to be having trouble with is that, when it's a friend or friends, politics is crap. A friend is missing, politics be hanged.

EVERYONE HOLD ON!

THIS PERSON HAS A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT WE ALL MUST PAY SERIOUS ATTENTION TO.

If you had read the past few pages (I always read the first couple of pages and the last few pages before making a comment), you would see that he had previously talked on here. He didn't just pop in.

I am sorry for you loss Emerald Dawn, I can't imagine your pain.

[Gauthier]

Pissing on people with actual stakes in ongoing events gives edge sharp enough to cut between atoms.

Oh please. This isn't a thread dedicated to one person's supposed grief and/or suffering.

We're discussing the entire event, and turning this into everyone pay attention to person A isn't going to do piss-all except give people warm fuzzies.

Empathy is soo SJW. Weighted fedoras for all. Oprah can give them away.

[The Black Forrest]

Pissing on people with actual stakes in ongoing events gives edge sharp enough to cut between atoms.

Oh please. This isn't a thread dedicated to one person's supposed grief and/or suffering.

We're discussing the entire event, and turning this into everyone pay attention to person A isn't going to do piss-all except give people warm fuzzies.

Your hipster powers will not work here.