Santa Should be Banned

[Isle de Carrin]

If this were a World Assembly proposition (to ban Santa), I would vote for it.

[Herrebrugh]

The history of blackface that existed in the United States never did in Netherland (there's no such thing as "zwartgezicht", and I can almost guarantee you that if you'd go up to a random Netherlander and asked them about blackface, they wouldn't have a clue what the hell you're talking about). Your cultural context is not applicable with that of Netherland and Belgium.

Dutch court rules Black Pete offensive

So? A poll said that about 95% of the Netherlanders didn't mind Zwarte Piet. That includes the majority of black Netherlanders.

[Alvecia]

Racism is not a type of discrimination, though it can lead to discrimination. Racism is stating that a certain race is inferior to another race. Discrimination is the actions taken based on this belief.

Racism is "I hate black people"
Discrimination is "black people should use a different bathroom than me because they're inferior and I hate them"

Racism can lead to discriminatory actions, but is not discrimination itself.

As per Lord Google

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

dis·crim·i·na·tion
dəˌskriməˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
"victims of racial discrimination"
synonyms: prejudice, bias, bigotry, intolerance, narrow-mindedness, unfairness, inequity, favoritism, one-sidedness, partisanship; More
2.
recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.
"discrimination between right and wrong"

Note that blackface as a representation of a black character by a white man and only that does not match the definition of discrimination.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Yeah, good luck with that.

[Sino nations]

Wow,i have found a OP more stupider than "Boxing Should br banned" thread.

[Dominated Earth]

Dear fucking god I have no words for this. You realize how pretentious this is don't you?

[Ugatoo]

Dutch court rules Black Pete offensive

So? A poll said that about 95% of the Netherlanders didn't mind Zwarte Piet. That includes the majority of black Netherlanders.

According to this only 3% of the population are black clearly they played a decisive role in this

[New DeCapito]

Wow,i have found a OP more stupider than "Boxing Should br banned" thread.

...and they're both suspected to be started by Infected Mushroom! Woop-de-doop. But please don't say 'more stupider' when complaining about that topic.

[Hladgos]

I suggest we actually ban all works of fiction, because they are not true and therefore have no logical purpose. Bah humbug.

[Herrebrugh]

So? A poll said that about 95% of the Netherlanders didn't mind Zwarte Piet. That includes the majority of black Netherlanders.

According to this only 3% of the population are black clearly they played a decisive role in this

There are more black people in Netherland than just Surinamers and Antilleans.

By the way, not all Surinamers are black.

[Alvecia]

According to this only 3% of the population are black clearly they played a decisive role in this

There are more black people in Netherland than just Surinamers and Antilleans.

I love that my skype plugin thought some of those stats were phone numbers

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

How is this still going?

[Krosana]

Wow. Were you ever a child? Did you stop believing in Santa? OK.

I get the vibe this person wants to ban religion.

That was my first thought as well.

The cultural custom of Santa Claus God is unethical and counterproductive to the greater good. It is not only wrong to teach children to believe in the existence of a fictional character, it sets up an unhealthy mindset lacking in skepticism. But more concerningly, an immoral and criminal character is being glorified as a benevolent figure of goodness. A character who spies on people without their knowledge or consent (stalking), a character who breaks into people's houses (breaking and entering) kills babies.

Some may handwave this criminal behaviour away by saying Santa God gives gifts blessings. But it's a cruel lie. A cruel lie that normalizes the act of parents lying to their own children. Surely it would be more healthy for children to be aware of having received gifts a good life from their parents than to be told it came from a stalker with a habit of breaking into people's houses at night killing babies. This cultural custom skews the moral compass of children by teaching them to be good for the sake of a reward, normalizes lying, promotes an unhealthy mindset detached from fact-checking, and glorifies an individual who would be despised if anyone else were to partake in those criminal actions like stalking and breaking and entering infanticide.

We can celebrate the holidays life without Santa God in it. The cultural practice of Santa Claus God should be done away with, perhaps going so far as a ban if that's what it takes. Thoughts?

Works quite well doesn't it. Exaggerated for effect.

People stop believing in Santa, and it's perfectly fine to believe in God, as long as you dont shove it down people's throats and hurt them.

[Saskisdi]

How is this still going?

Because more people are making fun of it than actually debating it.

[Alvecia]

How is this still going?

Because more people are making fun of it than actually debating it.

Also threads do tend to deviate slightly from the OP the vast majority of the time. Not all of these pages are discussing the OP.

[Caracasus]

I dunno, you give kids a sense of awe and wonder, and that the universe runs according to a level of fairness (rewards for being good, coal for being bad) and then at the age of 5 or 6 you cruelly snatch it away from them.

Prepares them for later life.

[Bolrieg]

Wow,i have found a OP more stupider than "Boxing Should br banned" thread.

I thought it was him at first being all edgy, I'm edgy too sometimes, yeah, I sit on the edge of tables.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Wow,i have found a OP more stupider than "Boxing Should br banned" thread.

I thought it was him at first being all edgy, I'm edgy too sometimes, yeah, I sit on the edge of tables.

Ohhhhhh, the edgiest of edges.

[Bolrieg]

I thought it was him at first being all edgy, I'm edgy too sometimes, yeah, I sit on the edge of tables.

Ohhhhhh, the edgiest of edges.

I'm just like that, I'm wild, I'm off cuff. No stopping me.

[Gauthier]

Ohhhhhh, the edgiest of edges.

I'm just like that, I'm wild, I'm off cuff. No stopping me.

[Davelsia]

This entire thread is full of people who are smart and people who are salty that a kid's imagination of an overweight man in a red jumpsuit teaches them horrible lies, which not only doesn't effect the children, but most children usually find out that Santa doesn't exist at like 10. And then Santa from then on is like 'Ok yeah Christmas season Santa and stuff' (if they aren't religious)

Stop being so fucking miffed about something that doesn't matter and move on with your life, thank you.

[The Sons of Adam]

The cultural custom of Santa Claus is unethical and counterproductive to the greater good. It is not only wrong to teach children to believe in the existence of a fictional character, it sets up an unhealthy mindset lacking in skepticism. But more concerningly, an immoral and criminal character is being glorified as a benevolent figure of goodness. A character who spies on people without their knowledge or consent (stalking), a character who breaks into people's houses (breaking and entering).

Some may handwave this criminal behaviour away by saying Santa gives gifts. But it's a cruel lie. A cruel lie that normalizes the act of parents lying to their own children. Surely it would be more healthy for children to be aware of having recieved gifts from their parents than to be told it came from a stalker with a habit of breaking into people's houses at night. This cultural custom skews the moral compass of children by teaching them to be good for the sake of a reward, normalizes lying, promotes an unhealthy mindset detached from fact-checking, and glorifies an individual who would be despised if anyone else were to partake in those criminal actions like stalking and breaking and entering.

We can celebrate the holidays without Santa in it. The cultural practice of Santa Claus should be done away with, perhaps going so far as a ban if that's what it takes. Thoughts?

THATS A LIE SANTA IS REAL GOOGLE TELLS ME SO!

*jk

[New DeCapito]

This entire thread is full of people who are smart and people who are salty that a kid's imagination of an overweight man in a red jumpsuit teaches them horrible lies, which not only doesn't effect the children, but most children usually find out that Santa doesn't exist at like 10. And then Santa from then on is like 'Ok yeah Christmas season Santa and stuff' (if they aren't religious)

Stop being so fucking miffed about something that doesn't matter and move on with your life, thank you.

The sentiment is there, but this single post will in no way whatsoever stop discussion here. That's how NS works.

[Obexer]

I didn't realize December was a summer month. I guess it never ends here.

[Czechanada]

This entire thread is full of people who are smart and people who are salty that a kid's imagination of an overweight man in a red jumpsuit teaches them horrible lies, which not only doesn't effect the children, but most children usually find out that Santa doesn't exist at like 10. And then Santa from then on is like 'Ok yeah Christmas season Santa and stuff' (if they aren't religious)

Stop being so fucking miffed about something that doesn't matter and move on with your life, thank you.

I would think that considering the poltical, social, and economic implications of a global cultural icon would count as something that "mattered."