Santa Should be Banned

[Immoren]

Santa is a patriarchal construct that conditions society to accept the invasion of their private lives and homes by white men and view this as beneficial.

When a white man breaks into your house it's Christmas
When a black man breaks into your house you're in danger.

as anthropomorphic personification santa takes apperreance after what people believe he should look like. So of course santa can be of any color.

[Alvecia]

Santa is a patriarchal construct that conditions society to accept the invasion of their private lives and homes by white men and view this as beneficial.

When a white man breaks into your house it's Christmas
When a black man breaks into your house you're in danger.

as anthropomorphic personification santa takes apperreance after what people believe he should look like. So of course santa can be of any color.

My Santa is a pleasant deep shade of blue.

[Czechanada]

Santa is a patriarchal construct that conditions society to accept the invasion of their private lives and homes by white men and view this as beneficial.

When a white man breaks into your house it's Christmas
When a black man breaks into your house you're in danger.

I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.

[Grand Calvert]

Of course we should ban Santa: he is an image of hierarchy that oppresses the proletariat elves by forcing them to build toys, and then takes all the credit. One of these days the elves will overthrow Santa and paint all of the toys red.

[Reutoa]

Of course we should ban Santa: he is an image of hierarchy that oppresses the proletariat elves by forcing them to build toys, and then takes all the credit. One of these days the elves will overthrow Santa and paint all of the toys red.

Nein, Everyone knows that the elves are horribly disfigured clones of Santa.

[Ugatoo]

Santa is a patriarchal construct that conditions society to accept the invasion of their private lives and homes by white men and view this as beneficial.

When a white man breaks into your house it's Christmas
When a black man breaks into your house you're in danger.

I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.

You find discrimination funny?

[Alvecia]

I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.

You find discrimination funny?

It'd have to be discrimination first.

[Czechanada]

I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.

You find discrimination funny?

Of course not.

I simply laugh at the simplicity of something that I should have realized a long time ago about Santa Claus.

[Ugatoo]

You find discrimination funny?

It'd have to be discrimination first.

You mean like Zwarte Piet

[Reutoa]

It'd have to be discrimination first.

You mean like Zwarte Piet

[Alvecia]

It'd have to be discrimination first.

You mean like Zwarte Piet

A) He isn't even the Santa equivalent
B) It's actually not discriminatory. Some may call it racist, other would disagree, but in the depiction of such a character, in no way are they treating anyone different based on their race.

[Ugatoo]

You mean like Zwarte Piet

A) He isn't even the Santa equivalent
B) It's actually not discriminatory. Some may call it racist, other would disagree, but in the depiction of such a character, in no way are they treating anyone different based on their race.

So black face isn't racist?

[Alvecia]

A) He isn't even the Santa equivalent
B) It's actually not discriminatory. Some may call it racist, other would disagree, but in the depiction of such a character, in no way are they treating anyone different based on their race.

So black face isn't racist?

You never said racist. You said disciminatory. Which I acknowledged in my previous post in point B) Did you get around to reading that?

[Ugatoo]

So black face isn't racist?

You never said racist. You said disciminatory. Which I acknowledged in my previous post in point B) Did you get around to reading that?

Racism is a type of discrimination

You are playing the worst game of semantics I've ever seen.

[Alvecia]

You never said racist. You said disciminatory. Which I acknowledged in my previous post in point B) Did you get around to reading that?

Racism is a type of discrimination

You are playing the worst game of semantics I've ever seen.

If you define racism as discrimination then no, black face is not racism
if <-----pointing this out in particular
Nobody is treating black people unjustly or prejudicially because of it.

Edit: It's also not semantics to stick the the actual definitions of words.

[Vespalia]

Would be interesting.

[Kannap]

You never said racist. You said disciminatory. Which I acknowledged in my previous post in point B) Did you get around to reading that?

Racism is a type of discrimination

You are playing the worst game of semantics I've ever seen.

Racism is not a type of discrimination, though it can lead to discrimination. Racism is stating that a certain race is inferior to another race. Discrimination is the actions taken based on this belief.

Racism is "I hate black people"
Discrimination is "black people should use a different bathroom than me because they're inferior and I hate them"

Racism can lead to discriminatory actions, but is not discrimination itself.

[Vespalia]

Santa is a patriarchal construct that conditions society to accept the invasion of their private lives and homes by white men and view this as beneficial.

When a white man breaks into your house it's Christmas
When a black man breaks into your house you're in danger.

Might have some validity, but still...it's funny.

[Infected Mushroom]

Santa is a patriarchal construct that conditions society to accept the invasion of their private lives and homes by white men and view this as beneficial.

When a white man breaks into your house it's Christmas
When a black man breaks into your house you're in danger.

a very interesting interpretation...

[Krosana]

Wow. Were you ever a child? Did you stop believing in Santa? OK.

I get the vibe this person wants to ban religion.

[Ugatoo]

Racism is a type of discrimination

You are playing the worst game of semantics I've ever seen.

Racism is not a type of discrimination, though it can lead to discrimination. Racism is stating that a certain race is inferior to another race. Discrimination is the actions taken based on this belief.

Racism is "I hate black people"
Discrimination is "black people should use a different bathroom than me because they're inferior and I hate them"

Racism can lead to discriminatory actions, but is not discrimination itself.

As per Lord Google

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

dis·crim·i·na·tion
dəˌskriməˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
"victims of racial discrimination"
synonyms: prejudice, bias, bigotry, intolerance, narrow-mindedness, unfairness, inequity, favoritism, one-sidedness, partisanship; More
2.
recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.
"discrimination between right and wrong"

[Herrebrugh]

A) He isn't even the Santa equivalent
B) It's actually not discriminatory. Some may call it racist, other would disagree, but in the depiction of such a character, in no way are they treating anyone different based on their race.

So black face isn't racist?

The history of blackface that existed in the United States never did in Netherland (there's no such thing as "zwartgezicht", and I can almost guarantee you that if you'd go up to a random Netherlander and asked them about blackface, they wouldn't have a clue what the hell you're talking about). Your cultural context is not applicable with that of Netherland and Belgium.

[Bolrieg]

Gonna kill Father Christmas
Gonna kill Father Christmas
Gonna kill Father Christmas
Because he killed my Cat

Gonna make war on Rudolf
Gonna make war on Rudolf
Gonna make war on Rudolf
And squash that Reindeer flat

Gotta stick Razor blades up the Chimney
Gotta stick Razor blades up the Chimney
Gotta stick Razor blades up the Chimney
And slice that Big Fat Twat

[Alvecia]

Wow. Were you ever a child? Did you stop believing in Santa? OK.

I get the vibe this person wants to ban religion.

That was my first thought as well.

The cultural custom of Santa Claus God is unethical and counterproductive to the greater good. It is not only wrong to teach children to believe in the existence of a fictional character, it sets up an unhealthy mindset lacking in skepticism. But more concerningly, an immoral and criminal character is being glorified as a benevolent figure of goodness. A character who spies on people without their knowledge or consent (stalking), a character who breaks into people's houses (breaking and entering) kills babies.

Some may handwave this criminal behaviour away by saying Santa God gives gifts blessings. But it's a cruel lie. A cruel lie that normalizes the act of parents lying to their own children. Surely it would be more healthy for children to be aware of having recieved gifts a good life from their parents than to be told it came from a stalker with a habit of breaking into people's houses at night killing babies. This cultural custom skews the moral compass of children by teaching them to be good for the sake of a reward, normalizes lying, promotes an unhealthy mindset detached from fact-checking, and glorifies an individual who would be despised if anyone else were to partake in those criminal actions like stalking and breaking and entering infanticide.

We can celebrate the holidays life without Santa God in it. The cultural practice of Santa Claus God should be done away with, perhaps going so far as a ban if that's what it takes. Thoughts?

Works quite well doesn't it. Exagerrated for effect.

[Ugatoo]

So black face isn't racist?

The history of blackface that existed in the United States never did in Netherland (there's no such thing as "zwartgezicht", and I can almost guarantee you that if you'd go up to a random Netherlander and asked them about blackface, they wouldn't have a clue what the hell you're talking about). Your cultural context is not applicable with that of Netherland and Belgium.

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