Santa Should be Banned

[Kannap]

Ignore it, other people do. Complaining about it is not helping yourself or anybody else. Religion is a big thing in this world and so is consumerism, everybody's not just going to drop all that and behave in the way you want the world to behave.

The irony of you telling me to behave in a way that you find desirable. Religion brings NOTHING positive to the world, and leaves a path of destruction in it's wake.

Except I didn't tell you to behave in a way that I find desirable. I would much prefer that you embrace religion, but rather have put aside my bias and thought to give you advance that you would probably take much more seriously: Ignoring what you complain about.

[Immoren]

People can have an imagination and sense of wonder without Santa in their lives, as they had before the Santa ritual existed and will continue to have after the Santa ritual no longer exists.

If you want to ban fiction books and fantasy shows, I suggest you start a thread for it. It isn't relevant to a ban on Santa.

i never said i wanted to ban fiction books and fantasy shows but it sure seems you do. Why are you called Santa a ritual? its not a religion. Go read the 1897 letter called Yes, Virginia there is a Santa. Should all the books and movies about Santa Claus be banned as well?

Of course Santa is ritual. Santa is newest on the line of Yuletide traditions to make sure of Sun's rebirth on the New Year's Morn.

In the process of calling out Hurd for creating a fantasy world in which he believes people who want to ban Santa live in a fantasy world, you have created a fantasy world of your own in which you believe that people who believe that people who want to ban Santa live in a fantasy world also live in a fantasy world.

While you, in the process of calling out Valystria for calling out Hurd for creating... you get the drift. We could be doing this all day!

World is just fantasies and points of view.
That is the truth of this world. *nods*

[Hurdegaryp]

Attack with great fury and give the world total annihilation!

I will not stop until I can leave cookies beside my fireplace and not worry about having them eaten!

Have you considered purchasing a cookie jar?

[Kannap]

As a religious person myself, I call bullshit on the idea that religion is unopposed.

Meanwhile, from what I am seeing, your entire argument is "I don't like Santa or religion, and some other people don't either, while most of the world does. Therefore we must bring it all down."

No, feel free to read the OP and various pages of the thread to see it's not about personal whims.

You haven't countered those points. You've instead resorted to ridiculing and trying to shut down displays of support for banning, abolishing, or phasing out the Santa ritual.

Because, as has been pointed out repeatedly in this thread, there are more benefits than detriments to the Santa myth. There is no real good reason to abolish the Santa myth.

[Kannap]

Attack with great fury and give the world total annihilation!

I will not stop until I can leave cookies beside my fireplace and not worry about having them eaten!

If somebody not from your household is eating the cookies that you leave by your fireplace, call 911. *nods*

[Kannap]

I will not stop until I can leave cookies beside my fireplace and not worry about having them eaten!

Have you considered purchasing a cookie jar?

Or rat poison.

[Ugatoo]

I will not stop until I can leave cookies beside my fireplace and not worry about having them eaten!

If somebody not from your household is eating the cookies that you leave by your fireplace, call 911. *nods*

Like Santa Claus? See I knew if we banned him we'd all be better off.

[Kannap]

If somebody not from your household is eating the cookies that you leave by your fireplace, call 911. *nods*

Like Santa Claus? See I knew if we banned him we'd all be better off.

Except Santa Claus is a fictional character who cannot physically eat the cookies in your house.

A person in the household, either the mother or the father, eats the cookies and drinks the milk as part of the entire Santa myth.

[Gim]

Have you considered purchasing a cookie jar?

Or rat poison.

Why?

[Kannap]

Or rat poison.

Why?

It'll teach your siblings to not eat your cookies.

Or your children to not spoil their appetite before dinner.

[Ugatoo]

Like Santa Claus? See I knew if we banned him we'd all be better off.

Except Santa Claus is a fictional character who cannot physically eat the cookies in your house.

A person in the household, either the mother or the father, eats the cookies and drinks the milk as part of the entire Santa myth.

And a priest molests choir boys as part of the Jesus myth.

[Kannap]

Except Santa Claus is a fictional character who cannot physically eat the cookies in your house.

A person in the household, either the mother or the father, eats the cookies and drinks the milk as part of the entire Santa myth.

And a priest molests choir boys as part of the Jesus myth.

That is not the discussion topic at hand here, feel free to stick to the topic of the thread. If you want to create another thread titled "Jesus Should be Banned," then go ahead.

[Gim]

Why?

It'll teach your siblings to not eat your cookies.

Or your children to not spoil their appetite before dinner.

I see where you're going with this.

[Conscentia]

This is a literal war on Christmas.

Christmas started it by taking lebensraum in November.

[Ugatoo]

This is a literal war on Christmas.

Christmas started it by taking lebensraum in November.

Those bastards! We should nuke the North Pole. That'll show'em.

[Gim]

Christmas started it by taking lebensraum in November.

Those bastards! We should nuke the North Pole. That'll show'em.

Rising radioactive water levels....

[Ugatoo]

Those bastards! We should nuke the North Pole. That'll show'em.

Rising radioactive water levels....

Small price to pay.

[The Alma Mater]

Christmas started it by taking lebensraum in November.

Those bastards! We should nuke the North Pole. That'll show'em.

You want Santa to give everyone magic mushrooms ?

[Immoren]

War On Christmas
Troops of Halloween prepared to avenge the shelling of Thanksgiving

Like Santa Claus? See I knew if we banned him we'd all be better off.

Except Santa Claus is a fictional character who cannot physically eat the cookies in your house.

A person in the household, either the mother or the father, eats the cookies and drinks the milk as part of the entire Santa myth.

Real Santa vs father in Santa costume is one and same thing.

[Lydenburg]

The ban fetish continues, and the Cult of Mushroom swells by the day.

We are facing assimiliation.

[The Republic of Pueri]

The cultural custom of Santa Claus is unethical and counterproductive to the greater good. It is not only wrong to teach children to believe in the existence of a fictional character, it sets up an unhealthy mindset lacking in skepticism. But more concerningly, an immoral and criminal character is being glorified as a benevolent figure of goodness. A character who spies on people without their knowledge or consent (stalking), a character who breaks into people's houses (breaking and entering).

Some may handwave this criminal behaviour away by saying Santa gives gifts. But it's a cruel lie. A cruel lie that normalizes the act of parents lying to their own children. Surely it would be more healthy for children to be aware of having recieved gifts from their parents than to be told it came from a stalker with a habit of breaking into people's houses at night. This cultural custom skews the moral compass of children by teaching them to be good for the sake of a reward, normalizes lying, promotes an unhealthy mindset detached from fact-checking, and glorifies an individual who would be despised if anyone else were to partake in those criminal actions like stalking and breaking and entering.

We can celebrate the holidays without Santa in it. The cultural practice of Santa Claus should be done away with, perhaps going so far as a ban if that's what it takes. Thoughts?

Why should we ban something, just cause on person don't like it? Where do we stop? i don't like doughnuts. Should we ban them? No, if you don't want anything to do with Santa, then don't. Let the people who do, keep on with Santa.

[The Republic of Pueri]

Its really sad this has gone on for over 50 pages and that some people have no imagination or sense of wonder. They want all fun and magic removed from everything. let's start banning all fiction books and all fantasy shows like Grimm. No more fantasy only truth.

I'm all for fantasy, but I'm very against religion and consumerism. I'd love to go anywhere in from November - December and not hear "Jesus this, Santa that."

You could always move to Iraq, No Jesus there.

[MERIZoC]

The ban fetish continues, and the Cult of Mushroom swells by the day.

We are facing assimiliation.

*Kult of Kefka

[The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster]

I dunno about banning Santa, but long around this time every year I get really on board with the idea of banning Christmas music.

Especially Little Drummer Boy.

[The Alexanderians]

Ignore it, other people do. Complaining about it is not helping yourself or anybody else. Religion is a big thing in this world and so is consumerism, everybody's not just going to drop all that and behave in the way you want the world to behave.

The irony of you telling me to behave in a way that you find desirable. Religion brings NOTHING positive to the world, and leaves a path of destruction in it's wake.

I hope you have reputable sources for both of those very questionable statements.