Santa Should be Banned

[Korhal IVV]

Its so stupid..

If that's what you think, why are you here?

To tell its stupid

[Gim]

This thread isn't dead yet...?

It's NSG, stupid threads tend to stay active for a while. Don't worry it'll die eventually.

I'm sure this thread will become old, once Christmas has passed.

[Kraylandia]

It's NSG, stupid threads tend to stay active for a while. Don't worry it'll die eventually.

I'm sure this thread will become old, once Christmas has passed.

Until next Christmas.

[Gim]

I'm sure this thread will become old, once Christmas has passed.

Until next Christmas.

History repeats itself.

[Immoren]

If that's what you think, why are you here?

To tell its stupid

Everytime you do that it springs back stronger than before.

Until next Christmas.

History repeats itself.

"Time is not a line, time is a circle. That's why clocks are round."

[Alvecia]

History repeats itself.

"Time is not a line, time is a circle. That's why clocks are round."

Where's that quote from, I love it.

[Immoren]

"Time is not a line, time is a circle. That's why clocks are round."

Where's that quote from, I love it.

Paraphrased from Red Vs Blue.

[Al-Seena]

This is really a non-issue, why does it matter if children are told Santa is real and then later on figure out through logic and reason that he is fact not real? Is there any phy harm in doing so? Would there be any real gain from doing so? And if we do what would be the punishment? If we're punishing this forum of lying why not others? This just seems to arbitrary to even worry about. Legislators are real issues to tackle like social injustice and finances.

[Olivaero]

Lying is not inherently bad. I would agree children are perhaps lied to too much in order for their parents to get some peace or because their parents want the child to think like them and are not capable of actually convincing some one even a child to their way of thinking. But believing fantasy is incredibly important to being human everything in your mind that isn't just processing what is happening at this current time is basically fantasy, be that memories or hopes or dreams. It is all of it not real at this precise moment. Now some of these fantasy's have a place in the real world and some don't, to learn rational thinking part of the development has to be individual in nature because as I said previously we're wired to believe in fantasy because it's basically how we think, so we have to understand on a personal level why eliminating some fantasies are important. Santa is one of those fantasy's we eliminate. So I would say It's good that he exists as a cultural trope because his elimination also exists as a cultural trope.

[The Emerald Legion]

This might be a repeat. Forgive me if it is.

But I honestly think that being lied to for years about Santa helps children in the long run. When they're little, it gives them a bit of fun. When they get older, it damages their trust in their parents, leading to a more independent individual.

[Alvecia]

This might be a repeat. Forgive me if it is.

But I honestly think that being lied to for years about Santa helps children in the long run. When they're little, it gives them a bit of fun. When they get older, it damages their trust in their parents, leading to a more independent individual.

As a parent you can also use it as a lesson in critical thinking, which is also beneficial.

[Teemant]

This better be a joke or a troll, if it is the op deserves a medal

If its not, this just proves once more that liberals are brain dead.

I'm not a liberal...

So edgy.

If you don't like santa then stay away from santa. No need to ban cool things for other people.

The ritual of Santa shouldn't be imposed upon children.

I'm starting to think IM is a fictional character created for the creator's amusement.

Ban it.

You are mistaken.

Children are lied to by parents all the time. Where babies come from, where pets go after they die, why grandparents never visit anymore. What's so necessary about Santa as a fictional character needing to be a scapegoat that makes it a 'pressing issue'?

They shouldn't be lied to about any of that. Santa affects a vast quantity of people from an early age. It is a pressing issue.

Shouldn't be imposed on children?
Nobody is asking children to play santa against their will.

Yeah remove all the fun from childrens life, then they will be nice persons when they grow up. I think most children figured it out themselves that santa is not real and their skepticism is all right. Maybe it even helps children to distinguish what's real and fictional.

[The Texan Union]

[Escanthea]

Really do not see an issue with allowing children to believe in Santa Claus. Not aware of anyone who doesn't naturally just grow out of such childish beliefs by a certain age anyway.

I find the concept of Santa to be equivalent to a particular being whose existence has not been proven.

Ouch, I think I cut myself on that edge.

[Hurdegaryp]

This might be a repeat. Forgive me if it is.

But I honestly think that being lied to for years about Santa helps children in the long run. When they're little, it gives them a bit of fun. When they get older, it damages their trust in their parents, leading to a more independent individual.

As a parent you can also use it as a lesson in critical thinking, which is also beneficial.

Said parent has to be familiar with the concept of critical thinking, though.

[Immoren]

I find the concept of Santa to be equivalent to a particular being whose existence has not been proven.

Ouch, I think I cut myself on that edge.

Your own fault for forgetting to wear protective clothing.

[Hurdegaryp]

Ouch, I think I cut myself on that edge.

Your own fault for forgetting to wear protective clothing.

Better write Santa a letter in order to ask for those.

[Xarchia (Ancient)]

Santa Claus, as we all know, was a stock figure of Stalinist propaganda - with his red suit showcasing his solidarity for the workers' struggle, the annual giving of presents indicating state redistribution of wealth to the proletariat, and of course his compulsive list-checking representing an omnipresent police state that would disappear those deemed "naughty".

[Korhal IVV]

Santa Claus, as we all know, was a stock figure of Stalinist propaganda - with his red suit showcasing his solidarity for the workers' struggle, the annual giving of presents indicating state redistribution of wealth to the proletariat, and of course his compulsive list-checking representing an omnipresent police state that would disappear those deemed "naughty".

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WAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

"The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity."-Mohandar

[Gim]

Santa Claus, as we all know, was a stock figure of Stalinist propaganda - with his red suit showcasing his solidarity for the workers' struggle, the annual giving of presents indicating state redistribution of wealth to the proletariat, and of course his compulsive list-checking representing an omnipresent police state that would disappear those deemed "naughty".

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However, then, he can't be banned....

[Union of Confederate Socialist Republics]

Look who's not getting presents this fucking year.

[San Lumen]

Look who's not getting presents this fucking year.

I hope Krampus comes for them.

[Conscentia]

Look who's not getting presents this fucking year.

I hope Krampus comes for them.

Krampusnacht was the 5th of December. They've logged in since then, so somehow they got away.

[Valystria]

Valystria must be an MSNBC anchor's NS account.

Why?

While it may be true Santa hasn't done harm, the unethical behaviors of the Santa ritual have done harm.

I don't see anything unethical with teaching children the reward system, I think.

It's the most malicious and selfish reward system ever devised. And it's a central theme of most major religions. Coincidence?

I answered those sufficiently as the ban was merely one proposed means to phase out Santa. The details of the ban would be up to the legislators.

But, legislators don't just vote on a ban with no evidence so...answer the questions about how Santa has hurt society and the question about if, you had too, write a 5 to 10 page length paper on why Santa should be banned?

5 to 10 pages would be too lengthy for most readers. In the OP I had already provided answers for how the Santa ritual hurts society.

While it may be true Santa hasn't done harm, the unethical behaviors of the Santa ritual have done harm.

I don't know that justifies tossing the Constitution out the window.

It's been tossed out plenty of times before. Once more won't rock the boat that much.

Look who's not getting presents this fucking year.

It's fine if I don't. I don't usually celebrate holidays anyway.

Look who's not getting presents this fucking year.

I hope Krampus comes for them.

Krampus doesn't exist.

[Conscentia]

I hope Krampus comes for them.

Krampus doesn't exist.

I assume they were joking.