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Postby Gim » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:30 pm

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Yes, however, he had the opportunity to issue a public apology to NationStates and keep his nation. He refused to do so.

I doubt the Mods would offer anyone that kind of deal to get out of a DOS.


Yeah, it's all hearsay.
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Postby Luziyca » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:30 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Damn. Esquarium nearly got raided last night.

Those raiders are incredibly incompetent at raiding. :P How's your day?


Speaking of incompetent raiders, you should have seen my regionmates in the ACA. I wrote up a whole raiding guide for them on our forums and for some reason nobody decided to read it. When they were raiding, they were using their fucking main nations.

They also had no patience to be sleeper agents either and just wait to build influence, instead going in and expecting to have enough influence to banject everyone straight away as soon as they became delegate.

Me, being a reasonably experienced raider, just facepalmed.

Yep. :P

As someone who occasionally raided, the failed attack on Esq is just laughable. They claim to be a "travelling circus of refugees," for fuck's sakes.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:31 pm

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Esternial wrote:I doubt the Mods would offer anyone that kind of deal to get out of a DOS.

Yeah, it's all hearsay.

Maybe a personal intervention of Max, patron saint of all slavering raider hordes.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Esternial » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:31 pm

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Esternial wrote:Might not be very nice, yes. My apologies.

But it is accurate.


Eh, don't be sorry it is somewhat true regarding some R/D orgs.

Aye. To be fair my dealings with the R/D have been limited to forumside discussions that were also in the RP'ing community's interest.

Very similar to talking to gun nuts that keep calling you gun grabbers despite not wanting to grab their guns.

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Postby Gim » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:32 pm

Luziyca wrote:
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Speaking of incompetent raiders, you should have seen my regionmates in the ACA. I wrote up a whole raiding guide for them on our forums and for some reason nobody decided to read it. When they were raiding, they were using their fucking main nations.

They also had no patience to be sleeper agents either and just wait to build influence, instead going in and expecting to have enough influence to banject everyone straight away as soon as they became delegate.

Me, being a reasonably experienced raider, just facepalmed.

Yep. :P

As someone who occasionally raided, the failed attack on Esq is just laughable. They claim to be a "travelling circus of refugees," for fuck's sakes.


:lol2:

Ban, ban, ban.

However, then, some raiders don't know how to make switchers. :p
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I'm sorry, whats going on?
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Postby Kraylandia » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:33 pm

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Kraylandia wrote:Well yeah, but there are certain communities uglier than R/Ders.

Yeah, the neonazis. Mind you, quite a few neonazis also can be found participating in certain raider groups, so there is less difference than you might personally like.


Yes, the actual Neo-Nazis are an ugly community indeed. However the likes of NE, which is full of right-wing Conservatives with the occasional Fascist and just uses "Nazi" in the name, is not.
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Postby Gim » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:34 pm

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Gim wrote:Yeah, it's all hearsay.

Maybe a personal intervention of Max, patron saint of all slavering raider hordes.


Yeah, I mean, NS Gameside is pretty much boring without large raider regions or organizations.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:34 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:I'm sorry, whats going on?

Oh, we're discussing the moral bankruptcy that is the whole uninentional raider dynamic that should have been made impossible as soon as it was discovered as a possibility.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Asmikland » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:34 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:I'm sorry, whats going on?

I second this. I am totally confused about what's going on right now
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:35 pm

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I never thought it'd be possible to cheat at NS, in all honesty.

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Gim wrote:
Yes, however, he had the opportunity to issue a public apology to NationStates and keep his nation. He refused to do so.

I doubt the Mods would offer anyone that kind of deal to get out of a DOS.

I do know one mod is a raider.
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Postby Gim » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:35 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:I'm sorry, whats going on?

I second this. I am totally confused about what's going on right now


Raider organizations in NS Gameside. Raiders, as in Defenders and Raiders. :)
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Postby Kraylandia » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:35 pm

Asmikland wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I'm sorry, whats going on?

I second this. I am totally confused about what's going on right now


It's okay, my wobbly jelly-like confused friend. We're talking about Raiders and Defenders mostly.
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Postby Gim » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:36 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:I do know one mod is a raider.


I think(I'm not entirely sure.) that one of the moderators staged a coup in a feeder region in the past.
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Postby Immoren » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:36 pm

Esternial wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:
Speaking of incompetent raiders, you should have seen my regionmates in the ACA. I wrote up a whole raiding guide for them on our forums and for some reason nobody decided to read it. When they were raiding, they were using their fucking main nations.

They also had no patience to be sleeper agents either and just wait to build influence, instead going in and expecting to have enough influence to banject everyone straight away as soon as they became delegate.

Me, being a reasonably experienced raider, just facepalmed.

Raiders.


It was sad day when raider chocolate brand was rebranded as twix.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:36 pm

Gim wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Maybe a personal intervention of Max, patron saint of all slavering raider hordes.

Yeah, I mean, NS Gameside is pretty much boring without large raider regions or organizations.

Even though I sincerely despise it, it's true that it generates traffic and therefore income.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Romic » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:37 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Asmikland wrote:I second this. I am totally confused about what's going on right now


It's okay, my wobbly jelly-like confused friend. We're talking about Raiders and Defenders mostly.

The groups the claim just moralities both ways to defend what they are doing. A mechanic in the game that was unintentional and exploited to ruin rpers experiance
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Postby Gim » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:38 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Gim wrote:Yeah, I mean, NS Gameside is pretty much boring without large raider regions or organizations.

Even though I sincerely despise it, it's true that it generates traffic and therefore income.


I honestly don't mind them. I've been in feeder regions and large UCRs, and they were unable to invade them, so I was pretty safe from them. :p
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:39 pm

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The Serbian Empire wrote:I do know one mod is a raider.


I think(I'm not entirely sure.) that one of the moderators staged a coup in a feeder region in the past.

I believe you are talking of the same mod.
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Postby Gim » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:39 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Gim wrote:
I think(I'm not entirely sure.) that one of the moderators staged a coup in a feeder region in the past.

I believe you are talking of the same mod.


The "S", right? :p
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Postby Kraylandia » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:39 pm

Romic wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:
It's okay, my wobbly jelly-like confused friend. We're talking about Raiders and Defenders mostly.

The groups the claim just moralities both ways to defend what they are doing. A mechanic in the game that was unintentional and exploited to ruin rpers experiance


I just participate in raids because it's fun. If they don't want their experiences "ruined" as you say, then perhaps they should adequately protect their regions.
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Postby Esternial » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:40 pm

Gim wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Even though I sincerely despise it, it's true that it generates traffic and therefore income.


I honestly don't mind them. I've been in feeder regions and large UCRs, and they were unable to invade them, so I was pretty safe from them. :p

I'm pretty safe as well since I'm founder of my own region, but just because I'm safe doesn't mean others are, and that's why I have an issue with it.

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Postby Kraylandia » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:40 pm

Esternial wrote:
Gim wrote:
I honestly don't mind them. I've been in feeder regions and large UCRs, and they were unable to invade them, so I was pretty safe from them. :p

I'm pretty safe as well since I'm founder of my own region, but just because I'm safe doesn't mean others are, and that's why I have an issue with it.


You're also safe because you have a password. That tends to help.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:41 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Romic wrote:The groups the claim just moralities both ways to defend what they are doing. A mechanic in the game that was unintentional and exploited to ruin rpers experiance

I just participate in raids because it's fun. If they don't want their experiences "ruined" as you say, then perhaps they should adequately protect their regions.

That's a bit like saying that if you didn't want the neck of your kitten to become broken, you should have made sure that mister Raider wasn't able to get his claws on the poor animal.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:41 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:I'm sorry, whats going on?

Oh, we're discussing the moral bankruptcy that is the whole uninentional raider dynamic that should have been made impossible as soon as it was discovered as a possibility.

Now I'm more confused
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