All Cars Should Be Tracked and Locked

[Lydenburg]

Money, Mushroom, money.

You'd have to hire more policemen and train them to operate and monitor the tracking networks.

You'd have to force the car companies to build this bulky breathing and testing apparatus into every vehicle at tremendous cost to themselves.

You'd have to integrate the tracking systems of thousands of vehicles produced by hundreds of separate companies and standardise them for effective across the board monitoring.

We're talking about a money pit that will bankrupt the state, the regional police, and the automotive industry.

These will implode under the tremendous financial pressure and the sheer impracticality of it all. The last thing you can remember is a newspaper on a stand somewhere in the ruins of a once shining metropolis now ruled by post-apocalyptic horse drawn carriage gangs declaring, "Civilisation collapses, idiot first year law student blamed".

[The Republic of American Freedom]

It's Infected Mushroom, he wants to track everyone and ban everything remotely fun.

Because to him, fun lies in banning minor inconveniences in his life. Cars driving too fast past your bike? Ban cars. Dogs barking at you as you casually stroll down a sidewalk? Euthanize dogs. People are generally annoyed with you fetish for bans? Ban people.

That's the logic of IM, folks.

We should take bets what his next thread will be.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Because to him, fun lies in banning minor inconveniences in his life. Cars driving too fast past your bike? Ban cars. Dogs barking at you as you casually stroll down a sidewalk? Euthanize dogs. People are generally annoyed with you fetish for bans? Ban people.

That's the logic of IM, folks.

We should take bets what his next thread will be.

Why phones should be banned for being easy to misplace.

[Urran]

I live in one. Technically in the woods behind one. The town has 800 people. I live on a dead in road 20 minutes away. Only 10 people live on our road. Satellite and dial-up are our only internet options because the cable companies refuse to run lines for only 10 potential customers. Every time a hurricane hits my family and our neighbors have to take chainsaws and physically cut our way out so we can access the main road. ours gets covered with trees and debris. We are also the last to get power restored in any situation. People literally forget we are here. Public transport is ZERO out here. the nearest city with any bus system at all is 45 minutes away. This proposal would destroy us.

You live in Louisiana right?

I do indeed.

[Infected Mushroom]

Hi. Bernie-supporting liberal here. WHAT THE HELL? THIS CROSSES SO MANY LINES.

It's Infected Mushroom, he wants to track everyone and ban everything remotely fun.

This is a misrepresentation.

[Infected Mushroom]

there's no reason to wait until people start getting unnecessarily hurt or killed in drunk driver accidents

i prefer a preemptive approach

How about education? Bonuses to people who volunteer to be designated drivers (e.g. free food or soft drinks at an establishment)? Government funding of programs where people drive your car home for you if you failed to plan ahead? Road blocks to catch anyone who should not be on the road before they get to a highway?

Educated people become drunk drivers all the time

No, they must be identified and stopped as soon as they speed or have one drink too many and decide to drive

[Galloism]

It's Infected Mushroom, he wants to track everyone and ban everything remotely fun.

This is a misrepresentation.

For certain definitions of fun, it most certainly is not.

[Urran]

It's Infected Mushroom, he wants to track everyone and ban everything remotely fun.

This is a misrepresentation.

Not based on some of your other threads.


The way I see it, beefing up our police forces might help crackdown on drunk driving and putting more regulations on bars as well. but if a few good ol' boys want to get wasted, get in their pickups, and go mud riding, they should be able to.

[Infected Mushroom]

This is a misrepresentation.

For certain definitions of fun, it most certainly is not.

It's impossible to make that sentence as its written not a misrepresentation; don't even try to defend it because you've already betrayed a great level of reading comprehension failure

under no definition of fun, would it be accurate to say that I want to ban everything remotely fun since on many occasions I've said that video games are fun and nowhere did I say video games ought to be banned (quite the opposite); one simple instance would defeat the sentence

I would greatly appreciate it if people didn't claim to speak on my behalf and utter ill-informed misrepresentations about my points of view, thank you

[Galloism]

How about education? Bonuses to people who volunteer to be designated drivers (e.g. free food or soft drinks at an establishment)? Government funding of programs where people drive your car home for you if you failed to plan ahead? Road blocks to catch anyone who should not be on the road before they get to a highway?

Educated people become drunk drivers all the time

No, they must be identified and stopped as soon as they speed or have one drink too many and decide to drive

Except reports indicate interlock devices actually cause accidents, so rolling out required devices that cause accidents on all vehicles is a pretty risky idea.

[Infected Mushroom]

Educated people become drunk drivers all the time

No, they must be identified and stopped as soon as they speed or have one drink too many and decide to drive

Except reports indicate interlock devices actually cause accidents, so rolling out required devices that cause accidents on all vehicles is a pretty risky idea.

the devices would simply be upgraded to remove those defects, once it becomes a national priority

[Gauthier]

>Infected Mushroom calls for all cars to be interlocked.
>All cars are interlocked.
>Vehicular accidents skyrocket due to interlocks.
>Infected Mushroom posts "All Cars Should Have Their Interlocks Removed."
>All cars are no longer interlocked.
>Wash.
>Rinse.
>Repeat.

[Galloism]

For certain definitions of fun, it most certainly is not.

It's impossible to make that sentence as its written not a misrepresentation; don't even try to defend it because you've already betrayed a great level of reading comprehension failure

under no definition of fun, would it be accurate to say that I want to ban everything remotely fun since on many occasions I've said that video games are fun and nowhere did I say video games ought to be banned (quite the opposite)

some people do not find video games fun. So for certain definitions of fun, it can be an absolutely true characterization.

I would greatly appreciate it if people didn't claim to speak on my behalf and utter ill-informed misrepresentations about my points of view, thank you

None of us claim to speak on your behalf. We're just pointing out you want a surveillance state that bans damn near everything with the tiniest bit of risk, which, for some definitions, means banning everything fun.

[Galloism]

Except reports indicate interlock devices actually cause accidents, so rolling out required devices that cause accidents on all vehicles is a pretty risky idea.

the devices would simply be upgraded to remove those defects, once it becomes a national priority

What defects? Requiring people to operate them as they drive is an intended feature. It prevents me from having someone else blow into it and letting me drive away.

[Urran]

Except reports indicate interlock devices actually cause accidents, so rolling out required devices that cause accidents on all vehicles is a pretty risky idea.

the devices would simply be upgraded to remove those defects, once it becomes a national priority

And are you an engineer of some kind? Do you have any idea how difficult this "upgrade" could be to do or how much it would cost?

[Thermodolia]

>Infected Mushroom calls for all cars to be interlocked.
>All cars are interlocked.
>Vehicular accidents skyrocket due to interlocks.
>Infected Mushroom posts "All Cars Should Have Their Interlocks Removed."
>All cars are no longer interlocked.
>Wash.
>Rinse.
>Repeat.

Or better yet don't let IM anywhere near politics

[Thermodolia]

the devices would simply be upgraded to remove those defects, once it becomes a national priority

And are you an engineer of some kind? Do you have any idea how difficult this "upgrade" could be to do or how much it would cost?

Magic

[Thermodolia]

You live in Louisiana right?

I do indeed.

Thought so well hello from from North GA

[Arkinesia]

Yeah seriously I can't possibly detail to you the levels of no this brings me to, both as a motoring enthusiast and a personal liberty enthusiast.

This is also the person who wants universal government surveillance in everyone's homes.

That explains a great deal.

[Urran]

I do indeed.

Thought so well hello from from North GA

Hello to you as well my Good Sir.

[Kraylandia]

>Infected Mushroom calls for all cars to be interlocked.
>All cars are interlocked.
>Vehicular accidents skyrocket due to interlocks.
>Infected Mushroom posts "All Cars Should Have Their Interlocks Removed."
>All cars are no longer interlocked.
>Wash.
>Rinse.
>Repeat.

For once, me and you agree.

[Galloism]

>Infected Mushroom calls for all cars to be interlocked.
>All cars are interlocked.
>Vehicular accidents skyrocket due to interlocks.
>Infected Mushroom posts "All Cars Should Have Their Interlocks Removed."
>All cars are no longer interlocked.
>Wash.
>Rinse.
>Repeat.

I say we ban all human operated cars and require cars to be automated to use the roadway. Once it's a national priority, all the defects and problems will be fixed.

[Dakini]

How about education? Bonuses to people who volunteer to be designated drivers (e.g. free food or soft drinks at an establishment)? Government funding of programs where people drive your car home for you if you failed to plan ahead? Road blocks to catch anyone who should not be on the road before they get to a highway?

Educated people become drunk drivers all the time

I meant education on the relevant laws and the consequences for breaking them, what blood alcohol content means, encouragement to volunteer as or find a designated driver, how to assess a friend's sobriety level and how to assertively refuse to enter a car with someone who you cannot be certain is sober, how to prevent them from driving (and to call the police on them if necessary).

No, they must be identified and stopped as soon as they speed or have one drink too many and decide to drive

1. Speeding is an entirely separate issue.
2. For someone who wants to prevent drinking and driving to the extent that you want to place unsafe locking devices on everyone's cars, saying "No" to supporting a program which helps people to make the responsible decision to contact a service that will get them and their car home safely (or ones that encourage businesses to provide complimentary services to designated drivers) tells me that you actually care much more about monitoring others and inconveniencing them than road safety.

[Urran]

>Infected Mushroom calls for all cars to be interlocked.
>All cars are interlocked.
>Vehicular accidents skyrocket due to interlocks.
>Infected Mushroom posts "All Cars Should Have Their Interlocks Removed."
>All cars are no longer interlocked.
>Wash.
>Rinse.
>Repeat.

I say we ban all human operated cars and require cars to be automated to use the roadway. Once it's a national priority, all the defects and problems will be fixed.

Just like every other national priority that is going so well.

[Thermodolia]

I say we ban all human operated cars and require cars to be automated to use the roadway. Once it's a national priority, all the defects and problems will be fixed.

Just like every other national priority that is going so well.

Shhh just don't look at the war on drugs