All Cars Should Be Tracked and Locked

[Sun Lands]

Your mother!

[The Republic of American Freedom]

I'm ok with interlocks for people recently convicted of DUI or DWI.

They probably shouldn't be rolled out universally, as evidence is emerging that they also cause accidents.

there's no reason to wait until people start getting unnecessarily hurt or killed in drunk driver accidents

i prefer a preemptive approach

Just like Iraq.

[Infected Mushroom]

there's no reason to wait until people start getting unnecessarily hurt or killed in drunk driver accidents

i prefer a preemptive approach

Just like Iraq.

I see no similarities whatsoever

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

I'm ok with interlocks for people recently convicted of DUI or DWI.

They probably shouldn't be rolled out universally, as evidence is emerging that they also cause accidents.

there's no reason to wait until people start getting unnecessarily hurt or killed in drunk driver accidents

i prefer a preemptive approach

What about people who are killed in weather or environmental related car accidents? Your argument doesn't seem to account for those.

[Gauthier]

there's no reason to wait until people start getting unnecessarily hurt or killed in drunk driver accidents

i prefer a preemptive approach

What about people who are killed in weather or environmental related car accidents? Your argument doesn't seem to account for those.

Make cars unable to start in bad weather!

Great if you're trying to drive away from a hurricane or tornado!

[Thermodolia]

What about people who are killed in weather or environmental related car accidents? Your argument doesn't seem to account for those.

Make cars unable to start in bad weather!

Great if you're trying to drive away from a hurricane or tornado!

Don't give IM any more ideas

[Senkaku]

Tracking, no. Ignition interlocks, yes.

[Dominated Earth]

No. Self driving cars would be better to minimize road accidents.

Do they exist?

Yes. They're in the testing phase and really it would be way more efficient than bugging cars.

[Valrifell]

The first idea is a gross violation of privacy and the second idea is already implemented for people with a record of drunk driving (at least in my state), so I don'the consider that a completely bad idea.

[Gauthier]

Do they exist?

Yes. They're in the testing phase and really it would be way more efficient than bugging cars.

Naturally hardware security will be the least of the manufacturers' concerns and it won't be long before we have hacked kidnapmobiles.

[Infected Mushroom]

The first idea is a gross violation of privacy and the second idea is already implemented for people with a record of drunk driving (at least in my state), so I don'the consider that a completely bad idea.

it isn't a gross violation, since your vehicle could pose a danger to others if speeding

[Gauthier]

The first idea is a gross violation of privacy and the second idea is already implemented for people with a record of drunk driving (at least in my state), so I don'the consider that a completely bad idea.

it isn't a gross violation, since your vehicle could pose a danger to others if speeding

Volkswagen pretty much killed your idea.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

Yeah, how about no.

Let's just track and monitor everyone's hearts and potential cancer victims too, while we're at it.

To be honest the cancer one isn't as potentially abusive as this, and obviously should be done with honest intentions by medical professionals.

[Dominated Earth]

Yes. They're in the testing phase and really it would be way more efficient than bugging cars.

Naturally hardware security will be the least of the manufacturers' concerns and it won't be long before we have hacked kidnapmobiles.

Like...with robotic grabby arms too?

[Italios]

The first idea is a gross violation of privacy and the second idea is already implemented for people with a record of drunk driving (at least in my state), so I don'the consider that a completely bad idea.

it isn't a gross violation, since your vehicle could pose a danger to others if speeding

Pacifiers are a choking hazard, let's put little cameras on those!

If a car is about to crash into another car how are they going to be stopped, the government runs in and yells "FREEZE!" I don't understand how it's going to work.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

it isn't a gross violation, since your vehicle could pose a danger to others if speeding

Volkswagen pretty much killed your idea.

To be fair that isn't all they've killed.

[Gauthier]

Naturally hardware security will be the least of the manufacturers' concerns and it won't be long before we have hacked kidnapmobiles.

Like...with robotic grabby arms too?

More like all the doors lock themselves. And of course windows will be shatterproof. RC carjacking.

[Infected Mushroom]

it isn't a gross violation, since your vehicle could pose a danger to others if speeding

Pacifiers are a choking hazard, let's put little cameras on those!

If a car is about to crash into another car how are they going to be stopped, the government runs in and yells "FREEZE!" I don't understand how it's going to work.

its simple, people who break the rules of the road by speeding or driving while drunk get into the radar of the police IMMEDIATELY (rather than later when they've killed someone or were stopped in a lucky coincidence)

they can then be warned immediately and be on the police radar as soon as possible; and hopefully they are removed from driving altogether if their infractions pile up and before they manage to kill or hurt anyone

[Italios]

Pacifiers are a choking hazard, let's put little cameras on those!

If a car is about to crash into another car how are they going to be stopped, the government runs in and yells "FREEZE!" I don't understand how it's going to work.

its simple, people who break the rules of the road by speeding or driving while drunk get into the radar of the police IMMEDIATELY (rather than later when they've killed someone or were stopped in a lucky coincidence)

they can then be warned immediately and be on the police radar as soon as possible; and hopefully they are removed from driving altogether if their infractions pile up and before they manage to kill or hurt anyone

So I'm driving on a nearly abandoned highway late at night, going speedy, and crash into the only other car going by. They're gonna pick that up on time? I doubt it.

[Gauthier]

its simple, people who break the rules of the road by speeding or driving while drunk get into the radar of the police IMMEDIATELY (rather than later when they've killed someone or were stopped in a lucky coincidence)

they can then be warned immediately and be on the police radar as soon as possible; and hopefully they are removed from driving altogether if their infractions pile up and before they manage to kill or hurt anyone

So I'm driving on a nearly abandoned highway late at night, going speedy, and crash into the only other car going by. They're gonna pick that up on time? I doubt it.

Won't even get to that. Volkswagen showed how you can bypass Big Mushroom's Watching.

[Thermodolia]

Tracking, no. Ignition interlocks, yes.

All ready have those, all though they are only for persons convicted of vehicular homicide while under the influence.

[Thermodolia]

So I'm driving on a nearly abandoned highway late at night, going speedy, and crash into the only other car going by. They're gonna pick that up on time? I doubt it.

Won't even get to that. Volkswagen showed how you can bypass Big Mushroom's Watching.

IM might ban Volkswagen or if this truly happens *shudders* I'm buying myself a Volkswagen

[Infected Mushroom]

Tracking, no. Ignition interlocks, yes.

All ready have those, all though they are only for persons convicted of vehicular homicide while under the influence.

we shouldn't have to wait until they've had the chance to kill someone, preemptively installing those in all cars will go a long way from preventing us from having to respond to those only when people start turning up dead

[Infected Mushroom]

So I'm driving on a nearly abandoned highway late at night, going speedy, and crash into the only other car going by. They're gonna pick that up on time? I doubt it.

Won't even get to that. Volkswagen showed how you can bypass Big Mushroom's Watching.

I am now known as Big Mushroom?

[Gauthier]

Won't even get to that. Volkswagen showed how you can bypass Big Mushroom's Watching.

I am now known as Big Mushroom?

Big Brother was already taken.