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Postby Liriena » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:17 am

Neues Nationalsozialistiches Reich wrote:What people on both sides of the PC debate do not understand is everything sensitive is offensive, and you have to deal with it rather than think about feelings.

Lesson of the day: If it's a sensitive topic, be an insensitive arsehole about it.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:38 am

https://i.imgur.com/tCshggl.jpg

JK rowling whoring herself out to SJWs in denial of reality.

In a move typical of these people, they harass and abuse a person pointing out they are factually incorrect about something


Whether JK is doing this in a desperate attempt to stay relevant and not realizing that SJWs pathological need to lie extends into fake twitter accounts and such to boost their apparent numbers, or doing it out of fear of SJWs and their institutional power to demonize and defame someone, doesn't really matter to me.

Had Rowling not gone along with them, she would be the one being harassed.
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Postby Valystria » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:42 am

Yes and no. PC isn't innately bad. It's all about how it is used. PC should be being used to shut down feminists and the religious.

PC is merely a powerful tool being misused. If used properly it would be a force for social progress rather than the banal bickerings it currently focuses on.

The people who have been using PC have been using it on the most pointless of issues, issues that are outright fabricated most of the time. This is why in the race to power those of a progressive mind must seize these tools for themselves instead of complaining about when regressives use it.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:44 am

Valystria wrote:Yes and no. PC isn't innately bad. It's all about how it is used. PC should be being used to shut down feminists and the religious.

PC is merely a powerful tool being misused. If used properly it would be a force for social progress rather than the banal bickerings it currently focuses on.

The people who have been using PC have been using it on the most pointless of issues, issues that are outright fabricated most of the time. This is why in the race to power those of a progressive mind must seize these tools for themselves instead of complaining about when regressives use it.


I agree. The problem isn't PC.
It's SJWs, feminists, and people who can't get over marxism.
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Postby Val Halla » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:48 am

Valystria wrote:Yes and no. PC isn't innately bad. It's all about how it is used. PC should be being used to shut down feminists and the religious.

PC is merely a powerful tool being misused. If used properly it would be a force for social progress rather than the banal bickerings it currently focuses on.

The people who have been using PC have been using it on the most pointless of issues, issues that are outright fabricated most of the time. This is why in the race to power those of a progressive mind must seize these tools for themselves instead of complaining about when regressives use it.

Wait, PC should be used to shut down the religious? I'm pretty sure that they use it to their advantage, saying people should stop being PC when they get called out for stuff like homophobic bigotry
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:52 am

Val Halla wrote:
Valystria wrote:Yes and no. PC isn't innately bad. It's all about how it is used. PC should be being used to shut down feminists and the religious.

PC is merely a powerful tool being misused. If used properly it would be a force for social progress rather than the banal bickerings it currently focuses on.

The people who have been using PC have been using it on the most pointless of issues, issues that are outright fabricated most of the time. This is why in the race to power those of a progressive mind must seize these tools for themselves instead of complaining about when regressives use it.

Wait, PC should be used to shut down the religious? I'm pretty sure that they use it to their advantage, saying people should stop being PC when they get called out for stuff like homophobic bigotry


That's a result of PC being used by feminists and SJWs, which delegitmizes its usage by others.
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Postby Valystria » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:52 am

Val Halla wrote:
Valystria wrote:Yes and no. PC isn't innately bad. It's all about how it is used. PC should be being used to shut down feminists and the religious.

PC is merely a powerful tool being misused. If used properly it would be a force for social progress rather than the banal bickerings it currently focuses on.

The people who have been using PC have been using it on the most pointless of issues, issues that are outright fabricated most of the time. This is why in the race to power those of a progressive mind must seize these tools for themselves instead of complaining about when regressives use it.

Wait, PC should be used to shut down the religious? I'm pretty sure that they use it to their advantage, saying people should stop being PC when they get called out for stuff like homophobic bigotry

All the worst groups are going to use PC toward their advantage unless egalitarians also resort to the same machinery. Complaining about PC won't make it stop. Using PC against the groups misusing PC would make it stop.

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Postby Val Halla » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:54 am

Valystria wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Wait, PC should be used to shut down the religious? I'm pretty sure that they use it to their advantage, saying people should stop being PC when they get called out for stuff like homophobic bigotry

All the worst groups are going to use PC toward their advantage unless egalitarians also resort to the same machinery. Complaining about PC won't make it stop. Using PC against the groups misusing PC would make it stop.

Or we could just not take the idiots who exploit it seriously. Be it radical feminists or a radical presidential candidate
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:01 am

Val Halla wrote:
Valystria wrote:All the worst groups are going to use PC toward their advantage unless egalitarians also resort to the same machinery. Complaining about PC won't make it stop. Using PC against the groups misusing PC would make it stop.

Or we could just not take the idiots who exploit it seriously. Be it radical feminists or a radical presidential candidate


Doesn't work. Ultimately, political correctness is about applying social pressure and such to people holding views out of step with society.
Merely ignoring them doesn't work.

We need to purge SJWs and feminists from all institutions of power and influence, and that can be done by turning them into people who are toxic to associate with.

Failure to do so will result in them continuing to use their considerable institutional and media power to control the narrative of society and prevent equality.

A CEO who identifies as a feminist should be protested, their company spammed with complaints, boycotts, etc, until they are fired.
Rinse repeat.
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Postby Val Halla » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:04 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Or we could just not take the idiots who exploit it seriously. Be it radical feminists or a radical presidential candidate


Doesn't work. Ultimately, political correctness is about applying social pressure and such to people holding views out of step with society.
Merely ignoring them doesn't work.

We need to purge SJWs and feminists from all institutions of power and influence, and that can be done by turning them into people who are toxic to associate with.

Failure to do so will result in them continuing to use their considerable institutional and media power to control the narrative of society and prevent equality.

A CEO who identifies as a feminist should be protested, their company spammed with complaints, boycotts, etc, until they are fired.
Rinse repeat.

Sounds a bit extreme. I think that CEO's are generally assholes regardless, but you should pressure them for reasons other than being feminist.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:09 am

Val Halla wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Doesn't work. Ultimately, political correctness is about applying social pressure and such to people holding views out of step with society.
Merely ignoring them doesn't work.

We need to purge SJWs and feminists from all institutions of power and influence, and that can be done by turning them into people who are toxic to associate with.

Failure to do so will result in them continuing to use their considerable institutional and media power to control the narrative of society and prevent equality.

A CEO who identifies as a feminist should be protested, their company spammed with complaints, boycotts, etc, until they are fired.
Rinse repeat.

Sounds a bit extreme. I think that CEO's are generally assholes regardless, but you should pressure them for reasons other than being feminist.


Next Step: Round up all Feminists and SJWs and place them in camps!
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:11 am

Val Halla wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Doesn't work. Ultimately, political correctness is about applying social pressure and such to people holding views out of step with society.
Merely ignoring them doesn't work.

We need to purge SJWs and feminists from all institutions of power and influence, and that can be done by turning them into people who are toxic to associate with.

Failure to do so will result in them continuing to use their considerable institutional and media power to control the narrative of society and prevent equality.

A CEO who identifies as a feminist should be protested, their company spammed with complaints, boycotts, etc, until they are fired.
Rinse repeat.

Sounds a bit extreme. I think that CEO's are generally assholes regardless, but you should pressure them for reasons other than being feminist.


A CEO believing in SJWIsm or OOGD Feminism is a CEO who has openly admitted bigotry in their practices.
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Postby Valystria » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:12 am

Val Halla wrote:
Valystria wrote:All the worst groups are going to use PC toward their advantage unless egalitarians also resort to the same machinery. Complaining about PC won't make it stop. Using PC against the groups misusing PC would make it stop.

Or we could just not take the idiots who exploit it seriously. Be it radical feminists or a radical presidential candidate

Extreme circumstances require extreme measures.

Feminism/SJWism has been winning. Applying their own methods against them is necessary.

Val Halla wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Doesn't work. Ultimately, political correctness is about applying social pressure and such to people holding views out of step with society.
Merely ignoring them doesn't work.

We need to purge SJWs and feminists from all institutions of power and influence, and that can be done by turning them into people who are toxic to associate with.

Failure to do so will result in them continuing to use their considerable institutional and media power to control the narrative of society and prevent equality.

A CEO who identifies as a feminist should be protested, their company spammed with complaints, boycotts, etc, until they are fired.
Rinse repeat.

Sounds a bit extreme. I think that CEO's are generally assholes regardless, but you should pressure them for reasons other than being feminist.

It should be among the reasons they are pressured. People in positions of wealth, power and influence should be held to higher standards than the rest of the populace.

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Postby Val Halla » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:13 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Sounds a bit extreme. I think that CEO's are generally assholes regardless, but you should pressure them for reasons other than being feminist.


A CEO believing in SJWIsm or OOGD Feminism is a CEO who has openly admitted bigotry in their practices.

That's not how it works. A CEO who calls themself a feminist has not committed bigotry. A CEO who actively puts women ahead of men is.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:16 am

Val Halla wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
A CEO believing in SJWIsm or OOGD Feminism is a CEO who has openly admitted bigotry in their practices.

That's not how it works. A CEO who calls themself a feminist has not committed bigotry. A CEO who actively puts women ahead of men is.


Do you think the firefox CEO who came out against gay marriage should have been pressured out of their job?
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Postby Val Halla » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:20 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Val Halla wrote:That's not how it works. A CEO who calls themself a feminist has not committed bigotry. A CEO who actively puts women ahead of men is.


Do you think the firefox CEO who came out against gay marriage should have been pressured out of their job?

As I've said, I have a general dislike against CEOs regardless.

Yes, they should be.
Yes, a CEO who says women are better workers than men/women should be prioritised compated to men.
No, a CEO who simply calls themselves a conservative should be pressured out for that reason
No, a CEO who just calls themselves a feminist should be pressured out for that reason

Extreme exceptions being neo nazis or RadFems
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:21 am

Val Halla wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Do you think the firefox CEO who came out against gay marriage should have been pressured out of their job?

As I've said, I have a general dislike against CEOs regardless.

Yes, they should be.
Yes, a CEO who says women are better workers than men/women should be prioritised compated to men.
No, a CEO who simply calls themselves a conservative should be pressured out for that reason
No, a CEO who just calls themselves a feminist should be pressured out for that reason

Extreme exceptions being neo nazis or RadFems


What about if they bring up the wage gap?
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Postby Valystria » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:22 am

Val Halla wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Do you think the firefox CEO who came out against gay marriage should have been pressured out of their job?

As I've said, I have a general dislike against CEOs regardless.

Yes, they should be.
Yes, a CEO who says women are better workers than men/women should be prioritised compated to men.
No, a CEO who simply calls themselves a conservative should be pressured out for that reason
No, a CEO who just calls themselves a feminist should be pressured out for that reason

Extreme exceptions being neo nazis or RadFems

Yes they should be pressured out for calling themselves a conservative. They can call themselves a Tory, that's fine. But not a conservative.

Words influence the framing of a person's worldview, shaping their thoughts and beliefs. It's important to shape public discourse in a desirable direction.
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Postby Val Halla » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:24 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Val Halla wrote:As I've said, I have a general dislike against CEOs regardless.

Yes, they should be.
Yes, a CEO who says women are better workers than men/women should be prioritised compated to men.
No, a CEO who simply calls themselves a conservative should be pressured out for that reason
No, a CEO who just calls themselves a feminist should be pressured out for that reason

Extreme exceptions being neo nazis or RadFems


What about if they bring up the wage gap?

They're a misinformed idiot, but they shouldn't be fired for it.

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Val Halla wrote:As I've said, I have a general dislike against CEOs regardless.

Yes, they should be.
Yes, a CEO who says women are better workers than men/women should be prioritised compated to men.
No, a CEO who simply calls themselves a conservative should be pressured out for that reason
No, a CEO who just calls themselves a feminist should be pressured out for that reason

Extreme exceptions being neo nazis or RadFems

Yes they should be pressured out for calling themselves a conservative. They can call themselves a Tory, that's fine. But not a conservative.

Words influence the framing of a persons's worldview, shaping their thoughts and beliefs. It's important to shape public discourse in a desirable direction.

The moment that they enforce policies along those lines they should be booted
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Postby Valystria » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:26 am

Val Halla wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
What about if they bring up the wage gap?

They're a misinformed idiot, but they shouldn't be fired for it.

Valystria wrote:Yes they should be pressured out for calling themselves a conservative. They can call themselves a Tory, that's fine. But not a conservative.

Words influence the framing of a persons's worldview, shaping their thoughts and beliefs. It's important to shape public discourse in a desirable direction.

The moment that they enforce policies along those lines they should be booted

Policies end up becoming enforced as a result of people haven spoken out in favor of those policies. PC in the right hands would be the perfect tool to prevent support from ever forming towards certain policies.

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Postby Morr » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:25 am

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Morr wrote:Biologically there isn't, but culturally and socially there is a tremendous difference, because heterosexual union has a very strong association with family and procreation, even though that relationship in public consciousness has been forcefully attenuated. Gay couples just aren't a signifier for the rebirth of humanity with each generation, and never can be. It's one thing to say there's nothing wrong with homosexuality, but it's quite another to try to say there's no real difference between it and hetrosexaulity, which is the source of all life beyond mitosis.


And cultural and social standards change over the course of time, and while gay couples cannot reproduce, they can help to ensure a future generation, whether through adoption or through artificial insemination.

I think artificial insemination is very dangerous, it's the beginning of designer babies.
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Morr wrote:
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And cultural and social standards change over the course of time, and while gay couples cannot reproduce, they can help to ensure a future generation, whether through adoption or through artificial insemination.

I think artificial insemination is very dangerous, it's the beginning of designer babies.


What's the problem there exactly?
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Postby Val Halla » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:29 am

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Morr wrote:I think artificial insemination is very dangerous, it's the beginning of designer babies.


What's the problem there exactly?

Playing god, supposedly
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:30 am

Val Halla wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
What's the problem there exactly?

Playing god, supposedly


God does not exist. It is necessary we build one.
I can think of no candidate better qualified than the human race.

I have sapiocentric megalomania.
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