Has Political Correctness Gone too Far?

[Socialist Czechia]

This is true.

And I mean, in our current time there hasn't been a more tolerant time in history. However, we could do with more tolerance.

However, the question becomes, just how far do we stretch our tolerance of people? Up until what point do we say "this is okay"?

I think no one has any ultimate right to be offended. You can always ignore the words.

It's just too complicated to tell, what is offensive: every person see and hear it differently.

I mean, even if someone, in public, celebrated Fuhrer's birthday and spoke about Master race, I think you should just laugh or spit on him - if you'll call the police, he would felt to be important and supercool

[Jochistan]

I probably already posted on this thread at some point.

But yes. It has gone insanely far. You can barely say something even remotely against the edgy teenage Liberalism championed by Tumblr without being shit on by a bunch of people that claim they (or more likely somebody else somewhere might be) "offended". It's infiltrated media a lot.
And has basically taken social liberalism and pushed it straight into a direction where it crashes so hard it would make an ambulance attendant puke.

Everything it defends, no matter how legitimately needed a defense is of the subject instantly becomes invalidated in terms of credibility (although that's partially the fault of another group) and generally becomes a laughing stock.

It stifles discussion, encourages stagnation and while the concept of respecting everyone whether they're Liberal or other Liberal is alright, it just ends up with a clusterfuck of whiny people.

[Jochistan]

Now on the other Hand, You got natsocs from /pol/ and shit. Basically shitting all over everything with their ridiculously extreme views and smarmy commentary. (seriously, what normal person gives a shit about Race Mixing, unironically?)
The fucking moment you say something even remotely interpretable as liberal. Or defend something SJW's defend (albeit never in the same way)

These types fucking jump on you, pulling open your skull with their seedy fingers before they unload a steaming blood flecked mass of Taco Bell tier Bowel Smoothie on your brain.

And they're everywhere.

Buzzing around Culture/Race related topics like flies to shit. Except the flies probably carry less disease.Basically, the two have essentially taken over and radicalized their respective sides of the political spectrum and carve up their territory on the internet. leaving normal people or at least not people like them in the crossfire.

[Alvecia]

well in all honesty yes it is but still, we should be able to express our feelings and opinions without fear of violence, what else is democracy for? if someone dosn't like other groups of people maybe they should just avoid them. However i think it may just be better if we learn how tolerate other peoples differing views...

I absolutely agree, and the person who assaulted him should face the consequences of that. However, that term was used to dehumanize and emasculate black men during the Jim Crow era by people who found the word "nigger" to be too crass to use in polite company. If you get assaulted for using it insultingly, then the person who assaulted you needs to face justice for that, but come on: don't act surprised that it happened.

I think consequence is key here.
Nobody should say to this person "You aren't allowed to say that"
What they should say instead is "Fair warning, if you do say that, you're gonna get a broken nose."

[Socialist Czechia]

when i read this, i was totally horrified - not because his words, but because no one condemned him

Nobody can use death threats because of any words or stupid moves used. Using this logic, if nazi person told me I am subhuman and filthy Slav, does this give me right to beat him to death and not be prosecuted?

[Gauthier]

when i read this, i was totally horrified - not because his words, but because no one condemned him

Nobody can use death threats because of any words or stupid moves used. Using this logic, if nazi person told me I am subhuman and filthy Slav, does this give me right to beat him to death and not be prosecuted?

I thought it was Mario Batali issuing death threats for a bit there.

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But from what I read I can't blame him. How would you like being racially heckled and pelted with bananas everywhere you go?

[Jochistan]

I mean seriously though. A few years ago I thought I was left of Lenin. But this whole oversensitive Political Correctness culture's got me rambling like an angry paleocon Grandpa.

[Unstumpable]

All I can say is the silent majority is rising up against the over-censoring.
Just wait, it wont last for long.

[Liriena]

All I can say is the silent majority is rising up against the over-censoring.
Just wait, it wont last for long.

Sure, Jan.

[Unstumpable]

All I can say is the silent majority is rising up against the over-censoring.
Just wait, it wont last for long.

Sure, Jan.

Denying it won't make it go away.

[Eastern Equestria]

It hasn't gone far enough!

[Liriena]

Sure, Jan.

Denying it won't make it go away.

People have been predicting an imminent "silent majority" uprising since the beginning of the Obama presidency. Forgive me if I take your fantasy just as seriously as the whole "Obama almost nuked the US" conspiracy theory.

[Unstumpable]

Denying it won't make it go away.

People have been predicting an imminent "silent majority" uprising since the beginning of the Obama presidency. Forgive me if I take your fantasy just as seriously as the whole "Obama almost nuked the US" conspiracy theory.

He sure as hell screwed up a lot on his second term.
Daily reminder that George W. Bush got also elected twice, and he went down as one of the worst presidents.
I think its time to step out of that shadow and look at the facts.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

People have been predicting an imminent "silent majority" uprising since the beginning of the Obama presidency. Forgive me if I take your fantasy just as seriously as the whole "Obama almost nuked the US" conspiracy theory.

He sure as hell screwed up a lot on his second term.
Daily reminder that George W. Bush got also elected twice, and he went down as one of the worst presidents.
I think its time to step out of that shadow and look at the facts.

Looking at said facts now. Which ones in particular do you find to be of interest?

[Unstumpable]

He sure as hell screwed up a lot on his second term.
Daily reminder that George W. Bush got also elected twice, and he went down as one of the worst presidents.
I think its time to step out of that shadow and look at the facts.

Looking at said facts now. Which ones in particular do you find to be of interest?

Which ever ones you like, theres plenty of them.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Looking at said facts now. Which ones in particular do you find to be of interest?

Which ever ones you like, theres plenty of them.

Okay. Let's start

The deficit has been slashed as a percentage of GDP. Illegal immigration is a net zero. Inflation isn't significant. Employment is up significantly, though it could be better. There's more. Shall I continue, or do you actually want to add your own facts rather than generalities?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I probably already posted on this thread at some point.

But yes. It has gone insanely far. You can barely say something even remotely against the edgy teenage Liberalism championed by Tumblr without being shit on by a bunch of people that claim they (or more likely somebody else somewhere might be) "offended".

And? Free speech. Grow a thicker skin.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

People have been predicting an imminent "silent majority" uprising since the beginning of the Obama presidency. Forgive me if I take your fantasy just as seriously as the whole "Obama almost nuked the US" conspiracy theory.

He sure as hell screwed up a lot on his second term.
Daily reminder that George W. Bush got also elected twice, and he went down as one of the worst presidents.
I think its time to step out of that shadow and look at the facts.

I'm no strong Obama fan (as far as I'm not a fan of any agent of the State), but calling him anything less than a fairly good president is unadulterated bullshit. He's done a lot of good things. A lot.

[Unstumpable]

Which ever ones you like, theres plenty of them.

Okay. Let's start

The deficit has been slashed as a percentage of GDP. Illegal immigration is a net zero. Inflation isn't significant. Employment is up significantly, though it could be better. There's more. Shall I continue, or do you actually want to add your own facts rather than generalities?

"Illegal immigration is a net zero" OH WOW OH WOW
http://cis.org/2.5-Million-Join-Illegal ... nder-Obama
Obamacare was a huge flunk. And pretty sure debt is a lot worse now.

He sure as hell screwed up a lot on his second term.
Daily reminder that George W. Bush got also elected twice, and he went down as one of the worst presidents.
I think its time to step out of that shadow and look at the facts.

I'm no strong Obama fan (as far as I'm not a fan of any agent of the State), but calling him anything less than a fairly good president is unadulterated bullshit. He's done a lot of good things. A lot.

Fairly good? In your dreams. He's done a lot of bad stuff. Remember IRS? Or how about Benghazi?
Mediocre at the very best? Maybe.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Okay. Let's start

The deficit has been slashed as a percentage of GDP. Illegal immigration is a net zero. Inflation isn't significant. Employment is up significantly, though it could be better. There's more. Shall I continue, or do you actually want to add your own facts rather than generalities?

"Illegal immigration is a net zero" OH WOW OH WOW
http://cis.org/2.5-Million-Join-Illegal ... nder-Obama
Obamacare was a huge flunk. And pretty sure debt is a lot worse now.

I'm no strong Obama fan (as far as I'm not a fan of any agent of the State), but calling him anything less than a fairly good president is unadulterated bullshit. He's done a lot of good things. A lot.

Fairly good? In your dreams. He's done a lot of bad stuff. Remember IRS? Or how about Benghazi?
Mediocre at the very best? Maybe.

Obamacare was a flunk because congress pretty much defanged the strong version going in.

Debt is worse? Well, yea, he got into a bad situation because of Bush.

Illegal immigration? Notice how your source doesn't separate those coming with legal visas, which is an important distinction to make.

Benghazi? Manufactured Scandal when there's been worse.

The IRS? Which one of the "scandals" the Republicans have discovered?

[The Remote Islands]

Yeah, remember that thing you kept seeing on Fox News for like a year? And that other thing too? Totally proof that the nascent Obamunist World Order is being valiantly fought by Grover Norquist even as we speak.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Obamacare was a huge flunk.

ObamaCare is a success: [X] [X] It will be better if we can push through full single-payer one day.

Fairly good? In your dreams.

No, in the real world, according to the source I linked.

He's done a lot of bad stuff.

His increase in drone strikes is one thing I blame him for.

Remember IRS? Or how about Benghazi?

...he did neither of those things.

Mediocre at the very best? Maybe.

Nope. He's done quite well. As I have shown, and as you have decided to ignore out of ideological spite.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Obamacare was a huge flunk.

ObamaCare is a success: [X] [X] It will be better if we can push through full single-payer one day.

Fairly good? In your dreams.

No, in the real world, according to the source I linked.

He's done a lot of bad stuff.

His increase in drone strikes is one thing I blame him for.

Remember IRS? Or how about Benghazi?

...he did neither of those things.

Mediocre at the very best? Maybe.

Nope. He's done quite well. As I have shown, and as you have decided to ignore out of ideological spite.

Ideological spite?!

He's only spited because he's the "nigger in chief". Things would be SILENT if it was a white person, or not as harshly criticized.

[Unstumpable]

"Illegal immigration is a net zero" OH WOW OH WOW
http://cis.org/2.5-Million-Join-Illegal ... nder-Obama
Obamacare was a huge flunk. And pretty sure debt is a lot worse now.



Fairly good? In your dreams. He's done a lot of bad stuff. Remember IRS? Or how about Benghazi?
Mediocre at the very best? Maybe.

Obamacare was a flunk because congress pretty much defanged the strong version going in.

Debt is worse? Well, yea, he got into a bad situation because of Bush.

Illegal immigration? Notice how your source doesn't separate those coming with legal visas, which is an important distinction to make.

Benghazi? Manufactured Scandal when there's been worse.

The IRS? Which one of the "scandals" the Republicans have discovered?

"muh congress" Yeah, would have been better of if there was no version of it.

Bad situation he should have been able to fix, but he didn't cause he's WEAK.

http://dailysignal.com/2015/07/27/study ... e-actions/ still not a "net zero", not even CLOSE.

So? What do you mean "there's been worse"? Oh yeah, since Watergate happened ANYTHING goes! There's been worse! Scandal is a scandal.

Who cares who discovered it? If it was discovered and it was true it's true.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Obamacare was a flunk because congress pretty much defanged the strong version going in.

Debt is worse? Well, yea, he got into a bad situation because of Bush.

Illegal immigration? Notice how your source doesn't separate those coming with legal visas, which is an important distinction to make.

Benghazi? Manufactured Scandal when there's been worse.

The IRS? Which one of the "scandals" the Republicans have discovered?

"muh congress" Yeah, would have been better of if there was no version of it.

Bad situation he should have been able to fix, but he didn't cause he's WEAK.

http://dailysignal.com/2015/07/27/study ... e-actions/ still not a "net zero", not even CLOSE.

So? What do you mean "there's been worse"? Oh yeah, since Watergate happened ANYTHING goes! There's been worse! Scandal is a scandal.

Who cares who discovered it? If it was discovered and it was true it's true.

Would have been better if the version that was presented before congress would have passed. Good intentions, but only average in practice.

No, he couldn't. I predicted it back in 2008, and my prediction became true. You can't fix a near depression in 8 years.

You mean DACA and DAPA?! Oh noes! The president is using his powers! Give me a break.

No, simply that this is partisan politics at its best. Noone bitched about Bush being wrong from the Republican side who are the same ideologues now bitching about Obama.

I asked you a question, I didn't ask you to reply with nonsense.