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Postby Skyviolia » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:18 am

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Postby Alvecia » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:22 am

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Postby Hakaan » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:25 am

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Hakaan wrote:I could get any other news source but I chose info wars. Your leftist hypocracy is ridiculous. You should stop using huff post or cnn as a source if I used your logic in news.


There you go making another ridiculous comparison.

The Huffington Post is slanted towards liberal/progressive news, but not prone to ridiculous right wing fear mongering like Infowars or Breitbart. These things are not equal.

Just as BLM isn't a terrorist organization unlike the white christian organization once known as the KKK.

The right thrives on fear, and exporting that fear to its constituents. The right thinks politicians should give all the money to the rich and it'll somehow all trickle down (we're still waiting after 30 years but the right refuses to give up on this BS economic 'theory'). And on the right you see political candidates pandering to this fear, stoking up suspicion, seeking to deny women their rights (not unlike the muslims they always claim to hate so much) and relying on an age old book for their 'morals' despite this book advocating in favor of slavery, stoning and all that. And let's not forget the rabid hatred of 'intellectuals' and 'teachers' and education, seeking to eliminate inconvenient facts and substituting them with right wing dogmas supposedly laid down by Saint Ronnie (who would have been appalled).

Its been quite revealing to see white people expressing their fears about BLM... probably because white people know BLM has a point. Black people have been structurally victimized by white police culture. But as always, one black person doing something = proof of 'blacks are all thugs' and yet a white guy shooting up a school or church = a lone wolf and not part of a white culture that venerates guns ahead of school children.

Assumptions, that is all you base your argument on. You assume I am racist for calling out black lives matter? That is ridiculous I stated I don't support white supremacy either. the leftist economic theory is much worse than any capitalist one. It creates a society based on a welfare state where people are rewarded for nothing. Thus creating stagnation in technological development. Black lives matter is not an admirable movement. It thrives on initimidation and fear. Racism does still exist but the movement exaggerates at a dangerous level. The right wing is the more logical side. Compared to idealistic leftists who strive for equality and fail to recognize individualism as a necessity and value in life. Big brother is your friend right??
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:26 am

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There you go making another ridiculous comparison.

The Huffington Post is slanted towards liberal/progressive news, but not prone to ridiculous right wing fear mongering like Infowars or Breitbart. These things are not equal.

Just as BLM isn't a terrorist organization unlike the white christian organization once known as the KKK.

The right thrives on fear, and exporting that fear to its constituents. The right thinks politicians should give all the money to the rich and it'll somehow all trickle down (we're still waiting after 30 years but the right refuses to give up on this BS economic 'theory'). And on the right you see political candidates pandering to this fear, stoking up suspicion, seeking to deny women their rights (not unlike the muslims they always claim to hate so much) and relying on an age old book for their 'morals' despite this book advocating in favor of slavery, stoning and all that. And let's not forget the rabid hatred of 'intellectuals' and 'teachers' and education, seeking to eliminate inconvenient facts and substituting them with right wing dogmas supposedly laid down by Saint Ronnie (who would have been appalled).

Its been quite revealing to see white people expressing their fears about BLM... probably because white people know BLM has a point. Black people have been structurally victimized by white police culture. But as always, one black person doing something = proof of 'blacks are all thugs' and yet a white guy shooting up a school or church = a lone wolf and not part of a white culture that venerates guns ahead of school children.

Assumptions, that is all you base your argument on. You assume I am racist for calling out black lives matter? That is ridiculous I stated I don't support white supremacy either. the leftist economic theory is much worse than any capitalist one. It creates a society based on a welfare state where people are rewarded for nothing. Thus creating stagnation in technological development. Black lives matter is not an admirable movement. It thrives on initimidation and fear. Racism does still exist but the movement exaggerates at a dangerous level. The right wing is the more logical side. Compared to idealistic leftists who strive for equality and fail to recognize individualism as a necessity and value in life. Big brother is your friend right.

I suppose you have evidence to back up those claims?
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Postby Trumpostan » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:28 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:I think it's revealing trumpostan thinks I'm right wing because I have criticism of BLM and SJWs behavior, or indeed, thinks people in this thread criticising them are.

I can almost guarantee i'm more left wing than they are, and I know that a sizable portion of this criticism is from the left wing.

Most of the comments about BLM say their demands are reasonable, it's their behavior that is appalling, and they're shooting themselves in the foot.


Its not just the criticism, its the terminology that kind of gives it away. Terminology that is generally speaking used by those on the rabid right (though by no means exclusively, and I never claimed it was). Another dead giveaway is when people comment near foaming at the mouth at any perceived BLM incident (and declare it to be generally representative of all BLM adherents), but make excuses for the Dylan Roofs of this world (and the other white guys who shot up schools and churches) and then claim those are not representative of a white gun worshipping culture (which I usually lable as the pro-death culture of the right: guns and war). Note, I am not explicitly referring to you, but making this comment in a general sense.

BLM's behaviour is near saint like compared to that of the various police forces, the Tea Party adherents, the Cliven Bundys of this world and people at Donald Trump rallies.
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Postby Hakaan » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:29 am

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Hakaan wrote:Assumptions, that is all you base your argument on. You assume I am racist for calling out black lives matter? That is ridiculous I stated I don't support white supremacy either. the leftist economic theory is much worse than any capitalist one. It creates a society based on a welfare state where people are rewarded for nothing. Thus creating stagnation in technological development. Black lives matter is not an admirable movement. It thrives on initimidation and fear. Racism does still exist but the movement exaggerates at a dangerous level. The right wing is the more logical side. Compared to idealistic leftists who strive for equality and fail to recognize individualism as a necessity and value in life. Big brother is your friend right.

I suppose you have evidence to back up those claims?

i do. I will post them when I get back from school in about half an hour I'm currently on my phone
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:30 am

Hakaan wrote:
Alvecia wrote:I suppose you have evidence to back up those claims?

i do. I will post them when I get back from school in about half an hour I'm currently on my phone

Excellent. I look forward to the vertiable wall of links that I'm sure you will provide.
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Oops, surprised.

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Postby Trumpostan » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:54 am

Hakaan wrote:Assumptions, that is all you base your argument on. You assume I am racist for calling out black lives matter? That is ridiculous I stated I don't support white supremacy either.


White supremacy =/= black supremacy, on account of history. When, if ever, did black people enslave white people in the same numbers and for the same centuries of time as what happened when white people did it to black people? Sure, slavery has been prevalent in most cultures in the past, but of recent (say, 500 years or so) it has been quite one sided.

the leftist economic theory is much worse than any capitalist one. It creates a society based on a welfare state where people are rewarded for nothing. Thus creating stagnation in technological development.


I didn't know paying corporate executives (like say, Carly Fiorina) millions of dollars in bonuses for running a company into the ground was based on leftist economic theory. Or perhaps the crime syndicates of Wall Street who helped to destroy the economy were acting on their leftist economic ideas of pushing deregulation and paying huge paychecks and bonuses despite blatantly obvious failure on their parts?

But I'm sure that doing all that is leftist economic theory. But what then is capitalist economic theory? Everyone for himself, survival of the fittest? Or is it what was mentioned earlier? Because as far as I can see, rightist economic theory rewards failure, and rewards destruction, and above all rewards gaming the system to get governments to support and entrench the existing monopolies. You know who really works hard? That's the guy in the factory assembling a car, not the scummy executive sitting high and mighty into an office wiring 50k to some politician's campaign funds.

Black lives matter is not an admirable movement. It thrives on initimidation and fear. Racism does still exist but the movement exaggerates at a dangerous level.


BLM thrives on decades of institutional and disproportional police brutality against black people. The recent revelations in Chicago being yet another example wherein the pervasive police culture immediately decided to run a massive coverup (intimidating witnesses, deleting security footage, writing false reports and attempting to pay off the family in exchange for their silence). Revelations we would never have known if it hadn't been for one whistleblower, they almost got away with it as did the cop who executed Tamir Rice... and remember Ferguson, where they manipulated the Grand Jury by sending them a phony witness knowing full well that this witness hadn't even been there.

You know how these days you can tell the cops are lying? When they claim "he was reaching for my gun" and "I feared for my life". If it ever happens to you, I hope someone films it so the police can be caught red handed in their lies. Because if not, you are SOOL. I think it was in 2006 when the FBI published a report about white supremacists infiltrating law enforcement... coincidence? I hope so but recent events make me think.

The right wing is the more logical side. Compared to idealistic leftists who strive for equality and fail to recognize individualism as a necessity and value in life. Big brother is your friend right??


Considering how the right nearly wants to put cameras in everyones bedroom to monitor activity, or singling out single mothers and shaming them by forcing them to publish their sexual history (legislation Jeb Bush once pushed in Florida), denying women's rights, praising christian extremists like Kim Davis who want to put an old book ahead of the law etc... you call them more logical? Please. Big Brother is watching you because the right wants it so. After all, especially if you have a 'color', you might be a mean ol' terrorist or thug. The right loves Big brother, except when it comes to gun registration. The right has presidential candidates talking national registry for muslims, monitoring mosques etc...

And it was during the Bush jr years that we got the Patriot act. The right was absolutely rabid about passing it, whereas some on the left partially went along on account of the national hysteria.
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Postby Hakaan » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:58 am

This is just one source that proves the animosity of the Blm movement http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -white-fs/
And before you call me biased for using breitbart as a source. Watch the video. It's enough proof
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And for the welfare system that breeds unmotivated citizens read "the welfare state were in by James Bartholomew" it would really help you understand the unproductive way the system works
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:18 am

Hakaan wrote:And for the welfare system that breeds unmotivated citizens read "the welfare state were in by James Bartholomew" it would really help you understand the unproductive way the system works


Oh, so then banks should have gone bankrupt in 2008 and fuck the economy, then; instead of bailing them out with billions of dollars from taxpayer's money?

Well, glad we got that settled. Next time some right-wing person talks about trickle down economies and reciting chants and litanies to St. Reagan to save one of those "too big to fail" corporations, I'll point them to that book.
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Hakaan wrote:And for the welfare system that breeds unmotivated citizens read "the welfare state were in by James Bartholomew" it would really help you understand the unproductive way the system works


Oh, so then banks should have gone bankrupt in 2008 and fuck the economy, then; instead of bailing them out with billions of dollars from taxpayer's money?

Well, glad we got that settled. Next time some right-wing person talks about trickle down economies and reciting chants and litanies to St. Reagan to save one of those "too big to fail" corporations, I'll point them to that book.

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Postby Alvecia » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:26 am

Hakaan wrote:This is just one source that proves the animosity of the Blm movement http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -white-fs/
And before you call me biased for using breitbart as a source. Watch the video. It's enough proof

Once source of one incident.
Totally proof that the whole movement is like that.
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Postby Aelex » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:38 am

What proof do we have that they are white supremacist?
From what I understood, they get chased by a crowd which tried to get physical and seem to have replicated by firing at them.
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Aelex wrote:What proof do we have that they are white supremacist?
From what I understood, they get chased by a crowd which tried to get physical and seem to have replicated by firing at them.


Because apparently counter protesting a BLM protest is Racist!

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Aelex wrote:What proof do we have that they are white supremacist?
From what I understood, they get chased by a crowd which tried to get physical and seem to have replicated reciprocated by firing at them.


Because apparently counter protesting a BLM protest is Racist!

Why else would you counter-protest a black rights protest? :unsure:
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:42 am

Out of curiosity, has anyone else seen confirmation/dismissal of this video? Somewhat suspect source, obviously, so ignore the comments, but the video itself is very interesting. In it two protesters seem to be talking about the incident, and the fact that the shooters were both surrounded and punched before they opened fire.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:48 am

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Death probably would be preferable actually, so nevermind. But yeah, so, white supremacists, racists, homophobes, sexists, all hate people because of qualities that those people can't control. There is no purpose for people like that.


In that case, most of the developing world would lack a "purpose" according to you, seeing as many in Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, and India are what you would call homophobes and sexists.
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Postby The balkens » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:50 am

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Because apparently counter protesting a BLM protest is Racist!

Why else would you counter-protest a black rights protest? :unsure:


Its not a Black RIghts Protest, its was bitching about the fact that Some Wifebeating shitheel got shot.

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Alvecia wrote:Why else would you counter-protest a black rights protest? :unsure:


Its not a Black RIghts Protest, its was bitching about the fact that Some Wifebeating shitheel got shot.


While handcuffed, but then again you're all right with extrajudicial executions.
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Postby Aelex » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:51 am

Alvecia wrote:Why else would you counter-protest a black rights protest? :unsure:

Maybe because they are trying to force the justice to do in day what would take a month?
Maybe because they are defending someone who was beating up his girlfriend when he got shot by policemen?
Maybe because they are themselves racists, launching hashtags such as "Fuck Paris" or getting the brother of the victim to say how much he agree with I.S.I.S and it's strategy?
Maybe because world isn't always black nor always white and that you can be against racism while still being infuriatied by the liberal hypocrisy this movement had became?
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