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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:55 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
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I don't think that anyone is convinced by your suppositions and inferences, nor even that interested in them.

What is any other reason to disassemble a clock, put it into a fucking briefcase, get arrested, and then sue for 15 fucking million dollars?


Except he didn't put the clock on a fucking briefcase. He used a pencil case. A pencil case. And when you look at the contents, it doesn't resemble a friggin' bomb at all.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:56 am

Kraylandia wrote:
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I don't think that anyone is convinced by your suppositions and inferences, nor even that interested in them.


You are not, some people might be.


Not the kind of people you want on your side, I suspect. Or maybe so. Your taste in supporters may run to the unintelligent and easily swayed by appeals to bigotry.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:56 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
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I don't think that anyone is convinced by your suppositions and inferences, nor even that interested in them.

What is any other reason to disassemble a clock, put it into a fucking briefpencil case, get arrested, and then sue for 15 fucking million dollars?

You're right, it is pretty stupid that he got arrested. I mean, FFS, if I got arrested for a shit reason I'd be pretty fucking pissed too.

And in the American legal system, not unlike the American medical system, the initial amount requested is almost always highballing it.
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Postby Dakini » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:57 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
I don't think that anyone is convinced by your suppositions and inferences, nor even that interested in them.

What is any other reason to disassemble a clock, put it into a fucking briefcase, get arrested, and then sue for 15 fucking million dollars?

Well, there's the bit where he didn't choose to be arrested or know this was going to happen...


Or put a clock in a briefcase. Continuing to claim it was in a briefcase when this very thread has multiple pictures showing that it is definitely not a briefcase, this is rather dishonest to claim at this juncture.

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Postby Netralitys » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:01 am

If he was white tbere would be one less stupidity to discuss. But apparently everything black deserves special attention.
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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:02 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:What is any other reason to disassemble a clock, put it into a fucking briefcase, get arrested, and then sue for 15 fucking million dollars?


Except he didn't put the clock on a fucking briefcase. He used a pencil case. A pencil case. And when you look at the contents, it doesn't resemble a friggin' bomb at all.

Jesus H. Christ!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ahme ... ing_PD.jpg

Doesn't matter what it was holding the clock in, it looks sketchy as hell. Nobody shows their science teacher a clock put into a sketchy ass pencil box that resembles a briefcase. While the police did use excessive force, he made a huge ass deal out of it and then he is now suing for 15 million. The response so far has been disproportionate to the situation, and to deny that there is some level of self-publicity and monetary interests involved is simply denying the evidence we have.

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Postby Gravlen » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:02 am

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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:If you want to call this lawsuit frivolous, then find a better comparison.


Yes I'd need money to cover treatment for a third degree burn but if it were me, maybe I wouldn't automatically absolve myself of my own involvement. I could as easily use the rationale that I shouldn't sue because I should've been more careful.

Maybe you would only ask for $20,000 at first?

Which is what Liebeck did.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:03 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
I don't think that anyone is convinced by your suppositions and inferences, nor even that interested in them.

What is any other reason to disassemble a clock, put it into a fucking briefcase, get arrested, and then sue for 15 fucking million dollars?


First, you're assuming, as did the Islamophobes Bill Maher and Richard Dawkins, that he disassembled an existing clock, and did not reconstruct ones from parts of a previously disassembled clock. I'm not buying that.

Second, as has been repeatedly stated in this thread, this was not a briefcase, but a pencil case, and therefore didn't resemble a bomb even slightly.

He even went out of his way to not show it to anyone else due to the advice of his engineering teacher (the one person he voluntarily showed it to).

Hardly seems like the actions of someone looking for a payout. Seriously, if you're not familiar with the facts of a story, don't comment on it.

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Postby Alvecia » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:03 am

Kraylandia wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:What is any other reason to disassemble a clock, put it into a fucking briefcase, get arrested, and then sue for 15 fucking million dollars?


Exactly.
Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
I don't think that anyone is convinced by your suppositions and inferences, nor even that interested in them.

What is any other reason to disassemble a clock, put it into a fucking briefcase, get arrested, and then sue for 15 fucking million dollars?

You're both still acting like this 14 year old kid decided to sue for $15 mil without any outside influence. For all you know, he doesn't want to but is being forced by his parents. So stop attacking the kid.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:04 am

Netralitys wrote:If he was white tbere would be one less stupidity to discuss. But apparently everything black deserves special attention.


1) Not black, Arabic.
2) Well, yes. If he weren't Arabic, the argument goes, this likely wouldn't have happened to begin with.

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Postby Kraylandia » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:05 am

Netralitys wrote:If he was white tbere would be one less stupidity to discuss. But apparently everything black deserves special attention.


He's not black though, and no you're wrong, if he was white it would be the same.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:05 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Except he didn't put the clock on a fucking briefcase. He used a pencil case. A pencil case. And when you look at the contents, it doesn't resemble a friggin' bomb at all.

Jesus H. Christ!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ahme ... ing_PD.jpg

Doesn't matter what it was holding the clock in, it looks sketchy as hell. Nobody shows their science teacher a clock put into a sketchy ass pencil box that resembles a briefcase. While the police did use excessive force, he made a huge ass deal out of it and then he is now suing for 15 million. The response so far has been disproportionate to the situation, and to deny that there is some level of self-publicity and monetary interests involved is simply denying the evidence we have.


Oh gee, I guess you're another one of those posters who has no fucking clue about what a homemade bomb in a suitcase looks like. And how anyone with two fingers in front of their fucking noses can see the fucking difference between Ahmed's clock and an actual briefcase bomb.

The huge ass deal was made by the school, not the kid. As it has been said countless time, the teacher he brought the clock to show to had seen it and knew what it was and made no fuss about it, he didn't show it to anyone else until requested and that's when the shit hit the fan.
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Postby Dulce et Decorum » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:07 am

Its amazing how many suitcase bomb experts there are here. Funny how small the world is that they would all congregate on a political discussion forum.

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Postby GreatestBanks » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:08 am

This is what the kid's ''clock'' looked like:
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That looks a lot like a bomb or explosive, I'd be suspicious.
He does not deserve to sue.
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Postby Kraylandia » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:08 am

GreatestBanks wrote:This is what the kid's ''clock'' looked like:
(Image)
That looks a lot like a bomb or explosive, I'd be suspicious.
He does not deserve to sue.


And people are calling that a fucking pencil case. :rofl:
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:09 am

GreatestBanks wrote:This is what the kid's ''clock'' looked like:
(Image)
That looks a lot like a bomb or explosive, I'd be suspicious.
He does not deserve to sue.


Sure, because the absence of explosives and the very visible power chord there in the photo are totally what suitcase bombs look like. Totally.
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Postby Gravlen » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:09 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Except he didn't put the clock on a fucking briefcase. He used a pencil case. A pencil case. And when you look at the contents, it doesn't resemble a friggin' bomb at all.

Jesus H. Christ!

Image

Doesn't matter what it was holding the clock in, it looks sketchy as hell. Nobody shows their science teacher a clock put into a sketchy ass pencil box that resembles a briefcase. While the police did use excessive force, he made a huge ass deal out of it and then he is now suing for 15 million. The response so far has been disproportionate to the situation, and to deny that there is some level of self-publicity and monetary interests involved is simply denying the evidence we have.

Image

That's part of the problem: How it looks from that particular angle, cropped and without showing any of the dimensions. It's almost like they picked that picture to justify any violations they might have committed.

And if you agree that the police used excesive force (something Mohamed notably isn't claiming, by the way), why is it a problem that the initial demand is so high? It is, after all, just an "opening bid".
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Postby GreatestBanks » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:09 am

Kraylandia wrote:
GreatestBanks wrote:This is what the kid's ''clock'' looked like:
(Image)
That looks a lot like a bomb or explosive, I'd be suspicious.
He does not deserve to sue.


And people are calling that a fucking pencil case. :rofl:

How is that a pencil case?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:09 am

GreatestBanks wrote:This is what the kid's ''clock'' looked like:
(Image)
That looks a lot like a bomb or explosive, I'd be suspicious.
He does not deserve to sue.


No it doesn't, there's nothing that could even fucking explode.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:10 am

Kraylandia wrote:
GreatestBanks wrote:This is what the kid's ''clock'' looked like:
(Image)
That looks a lot like a bomb or explosive, I'd be suspicious.
He does not deserve to sue.


And people are calling that a fucking pencil case. :rofl:


Uh, because it is a pencil case: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51zVIc64naL.jpg

Actual dimensions, bub.
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Postby Kraylandia » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:10 am

Well, I retract all posts from this thread I guess. I admit I didn't fully look into it and it looks like a briefcase from the angle it was taken. Sorry guys. :unsure:
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Postby GreatestBanks » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:11 am

Gravlen wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Image

Doesn't matter what it was holding the clock in, it looks sketchy as hell. Nobody shows their science teacher a clock put into a sketchy ass pencil box that resembles a briefcase. While the police did use excessive force, he made a huge ass deal out of it and then he is now suing for 15 million. The response so far has been disproportionate to the situation, and to deny that there is some level of self-publicity and monetary interests involved is simply denying the evidence we have.

Image

That's part of the problem: How it looks from that particular angle, cropped and without showing any of the dimensions. It's almost like they picked that picture to justify any violations they might have committed.

And if you agree that the police used excesive force (something Mohamed notably isn't claiming, by the way), why is it a problem that the initial demand is so high? It is, after all, just an "opening bid".

I agree that the police overreacted, but it looked a lot like a damn bomb. And his case is almost certainly not worth $15 million. Plus, he was immediately released, he's gotten tons of money, tons of scholarships, and tons of popularity. And plus he didn't even ''make'' a clock. He took apart an alarm clock and rebuilt it in a different way.
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*Edited because someone had the fucking balls and sense of morality to say that they were fucking wrong, and that doesn't deserve another kick to the balls*
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Postby GreatestBanks » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:12 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
GreatestBanks wrote:This is what the kid's ''clock'' looked like:
(Image)
That looks a lot like a bomb or explosive, I'd be suspicious.
He does not deserve to sue.


No it doesn't, there's nothing that could even fucking explode.

Does anyone in your school use a suitcase to carry their stuff around?
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