Clock kid sues for $15 million

[Alvecia]

its completely unacceptable, if anything there should be a fine for even trying to seek such a ridiculous damages amount on such poor grounds

Whether it's acceptable or not is irrelevant to my point.

Suing for vast sums of money over perceived or actual slights and/or incompetence is arguably a central part of American culture, or at least American legal culture; and here we have definitive proof of the extent to which Muslim immigrants can fully embrace the core values of American civilisation.

It's therefore news that we should all be celebrating.

New York man still holds record for best lawsuit ever

Also, the kid is what? 15? I can guarantee he didn't think of this on his own. If you look close enough you'll probably see the shadowy hand of his parents guiding these actions. Particularly his twice run for Sudanese Presidency father.

[Infected Mushroom]

Whether it's acceptable or not is irrelevant to my point.

Suing for vast sums of money over perceived or actual slights and/or incompetence is arguably a central part of American culture, or at least American legal culture; and here we have definitive proof of the extent to which Muslim immigrants can fully embrace the core values of American civilisation.

It's therefore news that we should all be celebrating.

New York man still holds record for best lawsuit ever

Also, the kid is what? 15? I can guarantee he didn't think of this on his own. If you look close enough you'll probably see the shadowy hand of his parents guiding these actions. Particularly his twice run for Sudanese Presidency father.

Unbelievable.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Put him in a room full of unassembled parts and if he can reassemble his "invention" as in the picture then he can have the $15 million.

If he had been unfairly accused by the school and questioned by the police over whether or not this was actually an invention of his own, and not whether or not it was a bomb or hoax bomb, then your argument would have merit.

He wasn't, and this wasn't what this was about.

Therefore, your implied point is without merit, and, frankly, pretty stupid.

[Dulce et Decorum]

Put him in a room full of unassembled parts and if he can reassemble his "invention" as in the picture then he can have the $15 million.

If he had been unfairly accused by the school and questioned by the police over whether or not this was actually an invention of his own, and not whether or not it was a bomb or hoax bomb, then your argument would have merit.

He wasn't, and this wasn't what this was about.

Therefore, your implied point is without merit, and, frankly, pretty stupid.

That gifted school of hours did wonders for your ability to detect lack of sincerity. I'd be asking for my money back if I were you.

[Gravlen]

Yeah, kids father is kind of the Al Sharpton of the Islamic community. A clown and a PR addict. His sister has been suspect before and that clock he made was a cut out, to a briefcase which he explained that he made to look less suspicious by fastning it with wires which is crazy.

I'd be amazed if there existed a court too liberal to rule in favour of this or any kind of attorney too incompetent not to shred this case.

None of what you're saying is relevant to the merits of the case.

[Republic of Coldwater]

At this point, Ahmed is basically using this as a publicity and money stunt. He disassembled a clock and took it to school in a briefcase, which is already sketchy as hell, and whilst detaining him was retarded, there is absolutely no reason to sue for $15 mil.

[Dakini]

They called the police on a child who had done absolutely nothing wrong, and could not even reasonably be accused of having brought a hoax bomb to school. He was suspended and arrested, though not charged.

Try again.

No I am not going to try again. This isn't your game show and I don't appreciate your condescending tone. If you can't be respectful and simply say something like ''You said X but I disagree because A, B, and C'' then we're done. There is absolutely no utility whatsoever to attaching a ''Try again''; its simply rude.

Consider yourself ignored.

How the fuck did the school not do anything wrong here?

[Saiwania]

If you want to call this lawsuit frivolous, then find a better comparison.

Yes I'd need money to cover treatment for a third degree burn but if it were me, maybe I wouldn't automatically absolve myself of my own involvement. I could as easily use the rationale that I shouldn't sue because I should've been more careful.

[Dakini]

If you want to call this lawsuit frivolous, then find a better comparison.

Yes I'd need money to cover treatment for a third degree burn but if it were me, maybe I wouldn't automatically absolve myself of my own involvement. I could as easily use the rationale that I shouldn't sue because I should've been more careful.

Yes, because coffee should be sold at skin-melting temperatures.

[Alvecia]

At this point, Ahmed is basically using this as a publicity and money stunt. He disassembled a clock and took it to school in a briefcase, which is already sketchy as hell, and whilst detaining him was retarded, there is absolutely no reason to sue for $15 mil.

*nods* yes, he decided to sue all on his own without any outside interference at all /sarc
C'mon, that's a little naive.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

If he had been unfairly accused by the school and questioned by the police over whether or not this was actually an invention of his own, and not whether or not it was a bomb or hoax bomb, then your argument would have merit.

He wasn't, and this wasn't what this was about.

Therefore, your implied point is without merit, and, frankly, pretty stupid.

That gifted school of hours did wonders for your ability to detect lack of sincerity. I'd be asking for my money back if I were you.

First, it was a public school, so that would actually be the taxpayers.

Second, you've said so many frankly ridiculous things by this point that it would be a fool's errand to separate the wheat from the chaff. Don't do sarcasm. It doesn't work when the rest of your statements are as ridiculous as the sarcastic ones.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Lol, no sane court is going to award this kid 15 million for getting wrongly detained. I'm starting to lose sympathy very quickly for him.

Perhaps, perhaps not.

Of course, that's not the only thing they're seeking compensation for. It is also, among other things, a disregard for his 4th amendment rights (unreasonable search and seizure in addition to a wrongful detainment and interrogation without any reasonable suspicion), an attempt to coerce a confession, denial of access to parents and attorney, and a failure to Mirandize. Add to this a racial / religious component, and the statements made by Mayor Beth Van Duyne on the Glenn Beck show afterwards as well as the statements made by Police Chief Larry Boyd to the media.

Quick reminder:


That's not a suitcase.

Something people are very happy to ignore, despite the evidence provided. A pencil case, which is obviously not a bomb. But hey, lets ignore the obvious. All for demonizing a group of people, right? (not saying you are)

[Republic of Coldwater]

At this point, Ahmed is basically using this as a publicity and money stunt. He disassembled a clock and took it to school in a briefcase, which is already sketchy as hell, and whilst detaining him was retarded, there is absolutely no reason to sue for $15 mil.

*nods* yes, he decided to sue all on his own without any outside interference at all /sarc
C'mon, that's a little naive.

Fair enough, but this was probably a publicity stunt by him and his parents all along.

[Kraylandia]

He brought a clock, not a bomb, a clock, to school to show his science teacher. He was treated like a terrorist. A kid! Just because he happens to be Muslim. I say that yes, his rights were violated and profiling is shit.

He doesn't deserve 15 million dollars though, he's been showered with money and gifts already and even met the fucking President. If that's not enough then I don't know what it is. He's just a spoiled little brat in my opinion.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

At this point, Ahmed is basically using this as a publicity and money stunt. He disassembled a clock and took it to school in a briefcase, which is already sketchy as hell, and whilst detaining him was retarded, there is absolutely no reason to sue for $15 mil.

Every single fucking bit of this has been covered in this thread, and points along these lines that have been made by you have been responded to, so I'm not sure what you're attempting to accomplish by going back to this well without first responding to those who have replied to your earlier contentions.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

He brought a clock, not a bomb, a clock, to school to show his science teacher. He was treated like a terrorist. A kid! Just because he happens to be Muslim. I say that yes, his rights were violated and profiling is shit.

He doesn't deserve 15 million dollars though, he's been showered with money and gifts already and even met the fucking President. If that's not enough then I don't know what it is. He's just a spoiled little brat in my opinion.

I never said he does, did I?

[Dakini]

He brought a clock, not a bomb, a clock, to school to show his science teacher. He was treated like a terrorist. A kid! Just because he happens to be Muslim. I say that yes, his rights were violated and profiling is shit.

He doesn't deserve 15 million dollars though, he's been showered with money and gifts already and even met the fucking President. If that's not enough then I don't know what it is.

I think compensation and punishment for the people who violated his civil rights will make that enough.

He's just a spoiled little brat in my opinion.

...because....?

[Alvecia]

*nods* yes, he decided to sue all on his own without any outside interference at all /sarc
C'mon, that's a little naive.

Fair enough, but this was probably a publicity stunt by him and his parents all along.

That's your opinion I guess. Doesn't hold much merit but you're free to believe it.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

If you want to call this lawsuit frivolous, then find a better comparison.

Yes I'd need money to cover treatment for a third degree burn but if it were me, maybe I wouldn't automatically absolve myself of my own involvement. I could as easily use the rationale that I shouldn't sue because I should've been more careful.

Sigh.

"Reasonable person" argument.

I've spilled hot coffee on myself several times without suffering significant injury beyond a mild redness. A reasonable person could consider a major corporation would brew coffee that would not cause significant injury, especially when they had evidence that their coffee could cause said injuries.

[Alvecia]

He brought a clock, not a bomb, a clock, to school to show his science teacher. He was treated like a terrorist. A kid! Just because he happens to be Muslim. I say that yes, his rights were violated and profiling is shit.

He doesn't deserve 15 million dollars though, he's been showered with money and gifts already and even met the fucking President. If that's not enough then I don't know what it is. He's just a spoiled little brat in my opinion.

You say that like this was all his idea and his idea only.
See below:

At this point, Ahmed is basically using this as a publicity and money stunt. He disassembled a clock and took it to school in a briefcase, which is already sketchy as hell, and whilst detaining him was retarded, there is absolutely no reason to sue for $15 mil.

*nods* yes, he decided to sue all on his own without any outside interference at all /sarc
C'mon, that's a little naive.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

*nods* yes, he decided to sue all on his own without any outside interference at all /sarc
C'mon, that's a little naive.

Fair enough, but this was probably a publicity stunt by him and his parents all along.

I don't think that anyone is convinced by your suppositions and inferences, nor even that interested in them.

[Kraylandia]

Fair enough, but this was probably a publicity stunt by him and his parents all along.

I don't think that anyone is convinced by your suppositions and inferences, nor even that interested in them.

You are not, some people might be.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

He doesn't deserve 15 million dollars though, he's been showered with money and gifts already and even met the fucking President. If that's not enough then I don't know what it is. He's just a spoiled little brat in my opinion.

You say that like this was all his idea and his idea only.
See below:

*nods* yes, he decided to sue all on his own without any outside interference at all /sarc
C'mon, that's a little naive.

I'm not opposed to monetary compensation. The kid was profiled, arrested even, all for the overreactions of a teacher. But does the family deserve to win a $15 million lawsuit? Nah. That's an outrageous sum. Besides, I don't expect they would get such a sum anyway. This will probably be settled out of court.

[Republic of Coldwater]

Fair enough, but this was probably a publicity stunt by him and his parents all along.

I don't think that anyone is convinced by your suppositions and inferences, nor even that interested in them.

What is any other reason to disassemble a clock, put it into a fucking briefcase, get arrested, and then sue for 15 fucking million dollars?

[Kraylandia]

I don't think that anyone is convinced by your suppositions and inferences, nor even that interested in them.

What is any other reason to disassemble a clock, put it into a fucking briefcase, get arrested, and then sue for 15 fucking million dollars?

Exactly.