Clock kid sues for $15 million

[Euphisia]

Whatever sympathy I had for this boy and his family- and let me be clear, I was as outraged as anyone by his detainment to begin with- is rapidly dissipating. They are milking this for all that it's worth and it is disgusting. I hope the claim is thrown out by the courts.

Yes, it was entirely the kid's idea from the start.

I don't see him complaining.

[Gauthier]

Yes, it was entirely the kid's idea from the start.

I don't see him complaining.

Because he really thinks the Irving school meant well and the lawsuit is too punishing.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Lets admit it, the kid just wants to get rich quick. Doing this has a small chance of succeeding in the same way that the McDonalds lady sued and won over $1 million. All that is important is that the defendant never caves in.

It's cute to see misinformed people. I actually worked at a McDonald's in Louisiana and first heard about this from my manager, and did some research on her. She was an older woman and did suffer third degree burns. I've touched the coffee pots, felt the coffee through the cups, seen the steam, they're always heated. You'd have to be very, no, incredibly ignorant to just go by hearsay and say "McDonald's lady", comparing her to a kid who wants to get rich quick and act like she didn't get hurt. Maybe do your research before using something for comparison, much less an apples to oranges comparison like this..

Dumb kid brings clock to school for no reason. Now he wants money. There was nothing to be gained from it, and he's just a greedy little kid and so are his parents. I hope he enjoys the middle east, I hear he's moving.

Old lady spills coffee, gets burned.

Injury vs "civil rights violations"

Apples and oranges buddy, the first one is always clearly defined, the second isn't.

Actually, much as with the McDonald's lawsuit, if you've read up on it, you'll see it differently.

He didn't bring it to school for no reason. He brought it to school to show to his engineering teacher, who was suitably impressed.

He doesn't want money for "no reason". He is suing because he believes that he was subjected to suspension and arrest based upon his race and his religion. He may have a case, as not only was it obvious that at no point did any teacher, administrator, student, or police official think that it was a bomb, but his actions over the course of the day make it reasonably clear that it could not have reasonably considered to be a "hoax bomb", as he did not present it to anyone until the alarm went off in class unexpectedly, and even then only at the insistence of a teacher.

[Euphisia]

I don't see him complaining.

Because he really thinks the Irving school meant well and the lawsuit is too punishing.

The kid is getting far more than he deserves for making a clock that looked more like a black box with wires than a clock, he made a shitty clock, with a shitty exterior, got put into handcuffs for it, detained, and brought out without a scratch and now he's getting free rides and offers from across the world due to said shitty clock. I have no sympathy for this child, and I hope the lawsuit gets thrown out because I'm 100% certain he's all for more money.

[Herskerstad]

Yeah, kids father is kind of the Al Sharpton of the Islamic community. A clown and a PR addict. His sister has been suspect before and that clock he made was a cut out, to a briefcase which he explained that he made to look less suspicious by fastning it with wires which is crazy.

I'd be amazed if there existed a court too liberal to rule in favour of this or any kind of attorney too incompetent not to shred this case.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Except that (a) there was no reason to believe that it was a bomb, and the actions of the teacher, the principal, and the police made it obvious that they did not think that it was one, and (b) despite the attention he's received, that remains to be seen. Sure, he got to go to the White House and meet the President, but he's also persona non grata at his old school, he's been mocked and derided by prominent figures in the media, and his entire life has turned upside down. There's also the fact that he still has the suspension on his record, was subjected to humiliating treatment on the part of his principal and teacher, and was marched through the school in handcuffs. Whatever benefits he's received from this, they need to be taught a lesson that they obviously haven't learned yet.

Looking at everything, none of those things warrant $15 million dollars. I've seen people suffer far more, and get no money, the kid brought a clock to school, (that mind you, he didn't need to bring, for it had no benefit to him) and as far as the media everyone here tends to source has been reporting, it didn't exactly look like the clearest fucking clock. If he was trying to make a clock exterior, he did a pretty shit job.

The benefit was the approval of his engineering teacher, and advice from him.

It looked like digital clocks look on the inside. He wasn't trying to make a clock exterior, he was trying to make a working clock. It certainly looked far more like a clock than it did a bomb.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Because he really thinks the Irving school meant well and the lawsuit is too punishing.

The kid is getting far more than he deserves for making a clock that looked more like a black box with wires than a clock, he made a shitty clock, with a shitty exterior, got put into handcuffs for it, detained, and brought out without a scratch and now he's getting free rides and offers from across the world due to said shitty clock. I have no sympathy for this child, and I hope the lawsuit gets thrown out because I'm 100% certain he's all for more money.

Since when does making a "shitty clock" (in your estimation) justify putting a child in handcuffs and subjecting him to police interrogation?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Yeah, kids father is kind of the Al Sharpton of the Islamic community. A clown and a PR addict. His sister has been suspect before and that clock he made was a cut out, to a briefcase which he explained that he made to look less suspicious by fastning it with wires which is crazy.

I'd be amazed if there existed a court too liberal to rule in favour of this or any kind of attorney too incompetent not to shred this case.

Source for your reasons to call him the Al Sharpton of the Islamic community?

Source for "clown and PR addict"?

Source for "fastening it with wires to make it look less suspicious"?

[Crusader occupied mecca]

Those people should really get over themselves. Islamic countries treat kafirs far worse. Notice how we didn't chop off any limbs or sell him into slavery.

[Hyfling]

Yeah, kids father is kind of the Al Sharpton of the Islamic community. A clown and a PR addict. His sister has been suspect before and that clock he made was a cut out, to a briefcase which he explained that he made to look less suspicious by fastning it with wires which is crazy.

I'd be amazed if there existed a court too liberal to rule in favour of this or any kind of attorney too incompetent not to shred this case.

Source for your reasons to call him the Al Sharpton of the Islamic community?

Source for "clown and PR addict"?

Source for "fastening it with wires to make it look less suspicious"?

To be fair, a source for his father being the Al Sharpton of the Islamic community would also be a source for him being a clown and a PR addict.

[Crusader occupied mecca]

Those people should really get over themselves. Islamic countries treat kafirs far worse. Notice how we didn't chop off any limbs or sell him into slavery.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Source for your reasons to call him the Al Sharpton of the Islamic community?

Source for "clown and PR addict"?

Source for "fastening it with wires to make it look less suspicious"?

To be fair, a source for his father being the Al Sharpton of the Islamic community would also be a source for him being a clown and a PR addict.

Point taken.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Those people should really get over themselves. Islamic countries treat kafirs far worse. Notice how we didn't chop off any limbs or sell him into slavery.

Familiar with the fallacy of relative privation? The fact that worse things are done elsewhere does not take one whit away from the fact that a wrong was done here.

[Crusader occupied mecca]

Those people should really get over themselves. Islamic countries treat kafirs far worse. Notice how we didn't chop off any limbs or sell him into slavery.

Familiar with the fallacy of relative privation? The fact that worse things are done elsewhere does not take one whit away from the fact that a wrong was done here.

You mean the wrong that there was an islamic inside the school?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Familiar with the fallacy of relative privation? The fact that worse things are done elsewhere does not take one whit away from the fact that a wrong was done here.

You mean the wrong that there was an islamic inside the school?

*blink*

It was wrong for a Muslim child who had never caused harm to anyone at all to receive an education alongside his peers? I just want to be crystal clear as to what you're saying before I give a full response to your post.

[Uawc]

Good for him, I hope he gets it.

[Herskerstad]

Yeah, kids father is kind of the Al Sharpton of the Islamic community. A clown and a PR addict. His sister has been suspect before and that clock he made was a cut out, to a briefcase which he explained that he made to look less suspicious by fastning it with wires which is crazy.

I'd be amazed if there existed a court too liberal to rule in favour of this or any kind of attorney too incompetent not to shred this case.

Source for your reasons to call him the Al Sharpton of the Islamic community?

Source for "clown and PR addict"?

Source for "fastening it with wires to make it look less suspicious"?

For the first and second.

9/11 'truther' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTkE0Etkszc

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34551890

Aside from that, campaigned in Sudan which is a dictatorship for the presidency, which despite such and the rhetoric involved had little issues sending his son to one of the most evil despots alive. Run-ins with Terry Jones, Robert Spencer, ect, guy is a genuine PR addict. He literally pulled all his kids out of school during the clock day and the circus that convened leaves him about as credible as the cookie monster besides an empty cookie jar.

Might not like the site, but it contains a video of the kid saying it.

http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/clock-c ... reat.html/

[Washington Resistance Army]

Good for him, I hope he gets it.

Why?

[Dakini]

Source for your reasons to call him the Al Sharpton of the Islamic community?

Source for "clown and PR addict"?

Source for "fastening it with wires to make it look less suspicious"?

For the first and second.

9/11 'truther' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTkE0Etkszc

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34551890

Aside from that, campaigned in Sudan which is a dictatorship for the presidency, which despite such and the rhetoric involved had little issues sending his son to one of the most evil despots alive. Run-ins with Terry Jones, Robert Spencer, ect, guy is a genuine PR addict. He literally pulled all his kids out of school during the clock day and the circus that convened leaves him about as credible as the cookie monster besides an empty cookie jar.

Might not like the site, but it contains a video of the kid saying it.

http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/clock-c ... reat.html/

The only thing there that's a source is the BBC article which says the kid met the leader of Sudan (among a bunch of other people), who his father ran against.

..which, so what? He went with his father on this trip, so even saying that the father sent him is incorrect since sent does not apply "came with".

[Herskerstad]

For the first and second.

9/11 'truther' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTkE0Etkszc

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34551890

Aside from that, campaigned in Sudan which is a dictatorship for the presidency, which despite such and the rhetoric involved had little issues sending his son to one of the most evil despots alive. Run-ins with Terry Jones, Robert Spencer, ect, guy is a genuine PR addict. He literally pulled all his kids out of school during the clock day and the circus that convened leaves him about as credible as the cookie monster besides an empty cookie jar.

Might not like the site, but it contains a video of the kid saying it.

http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/clock-c ... reat.html/

The only thing there that's a source is the BBC article which says the kid met the leader of Sudan (among a bunch of other people), who his father ran against.

..which, so what? He went with his father.

Jesus, do I really have to stress what is bad with having a meet and greet with Omar Al Bashir and trying to be any kind of justice advocate?

[Aelex]

...
Putain de merde.
I can't believe this is true America. I really can't. You have to be fucking kidding me. I know we always joke about how shitty is your lawsuit system even here in the other side of the Atlantic but not even you can be this stupid. Not even you can reach THAT level of political correcteness bullshit. Not even fucking you can get to the point where it seem like there is truly a S.J.W revolution taking place.

[Gauthier]

The only thing there that's a source is the BBC article which says the kid met the leader of Sudan (among a bunch of other people), who his father ran against.

..which, so what? He went with his father.

Jesus, do I really have to stress what is bad with having a meet and greet with Omar Al Bashir and trying to be any kind of justice advocate?

Hilarious that you should take a sanctimonious stand on justice:

I see Assad as the lesser evil in this situation. So naturally I hope Hollande will wear the tricolors and reclaim Syria as colonialism would be an even lesser evil to the actual options the nation currently faces.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Source for your reasons to call him the Al Sharpton of the Islamic community?

Source for "clown and PR addict"?

Source for "fastening it with wires to make it look less suspicious"?

For the first and second.

9/11 'truther' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTkE0Etkszc

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34551890

Aside from that, campaigned in Sudan which is a dictatorship for the presidency, which despite such and the rhetoric involved had little issues sending his son to one of the most evil despots alive. Run-ins with Terry Jones, Robert Spencer, ect, guy is a genuine PR addict. He literally pulled all his kids out of school during the clock day and the circus that convened leaves him about as credible as the cookie monster besides an empty cookie jar.

Might not like the site, but it contains a video of the kid saying it.

http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/clock-c ... reat.html/

The first one was from a political campaign page, not the father's personal page, and there's no comment from the father directly as to whether or not it's something he'd agree with, though if not, then he certainly needs to answer for it going up on his Facebook page. The run-ins with anti-Islamic people are typical for someone defending his faith against bigots and liars. He pulled out of a school system that he saw as unjustly persecuting his son, and I might have done the same were I in his place. The "circus" could have been avoided if the school board had simply apologized for their overreaction, struck the suspension from his record, and allowed Ahmed back into school.

The fact that you're using a quote from a Pamela Geller site that provides no context for what he's saying and seems to cut off before Ahmed even finishes his sentence shows how bankrupt your argument is.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

The only thing there that's a source is the BBC article which says the kid met the leader of Sudan (among a bunch of other people), who his father ran against.

..which, so what? He went with his father.

Jesus, do I really have to stress what is bad with having a meet and greet with Omar Al Bashir and trying to be any kind of justice advocate?

Since they're Sudanese, and the father is a member of the opposition who has a chance to meet under peaceful circumstances with a man he opposes, yes.

[Dakini]

The only thing there that's a source is the BBC article which says the kid met the leader of Sudan (among a bunch of other people), who his father ran against.

..which, so what? He went with his father.

Jesus, do I really have to stress what is bad with having a meet and greet with Omar Al Bashir and trying to be any kind of justice advocate?

Considering that he and his father are expatriates of Sudan and that his father was one of the man's political opponents...