Clock kid sues for $15 million

[Yumyumsuppertime]

A bomb needs explosives. Wires and a display do not explode. There's nothing reasonable in assuming that the device was a bomb.

There is, however, something reasonable in assuming that the clock was in fact a pretty funny prank.

Not really. He'd have to have voluntarily shown it to someone besides his engineering teacher in order to try fooling anyone, and the only time that he did so was upon demand rather than by his own choice.

[Gauthier]

There is, however, something reasonable in assuming that the clock was in fact a pretty funny prank.

Not really. He'd have to have voluntarily shown it to someone besides his engineering teacher in order to try fooling anyone, and the only time that he did so was upon demand rather than by his own choice.

It feels like how photoshopped gangsta pics sprouted up supposedly all of them being Trayvon Martin.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

False equivalency. He brought a clock, no a bomb. Try again.

It actually isn't, given that the clock resembled a bomb.

Teachers and others are constantly expected to be suspicious and vigilant, and when someone walks into a school with what looks like a bomb (not helped by the fact he belongs to a religion that doesn't have the best track record with extremism at the moment) they're not just going to pat them on the back.

But maybe him being a Muslim puts him above all suspicion. I dunno, think it might just be my white privilege.

Nobody acted as if they thought that it was a bomb, which means that the "It resembled a bomb" non-argument really needs to stop. One could conceivably argue that he was trying to fool people into thinking that it was a bomb, but considering that the only authority figure in the school he showed it to on his own initiative was the one who would be the most likely to know what a clock looks like (and he didn't show it to any of his friends, much less represent it as a bomb), that argument also falls flat.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

It actually isn't, given that the clock resembled a bomb.

Teachers and others are constantly expected to be suspicious and vigilant, and when someone walks into a school with what looks like a bomb (not helped by the fact he belongs to a religion that doesn't have the best track record with extremism at the moment) they're not just going to pat them on the back.

But maybe him being a Muslim puts him above all suspicion. I dunno, think it might just be my white privilege.

Nobody acted as if they thought that it was a bomb, which means that the "It resembled a bomb" non-argument really needs to stop. One could conceivably argue that he was trying to fool people into thinking that it was a bomb, but considering that the only authority figure in the school he showed it to on his own initiative was the one who would be the most likely to know what a clock looks like (and he didn't show it to any of his friends, much less represent it as a bomb), that argument also falls flat.

And wasn't this showing to his teacher anyway?

[Gauthier]

Nobody acted as if they thought that it was a bomb, which means that the "It resembled a bomb" non-argument really needs to stop. One could conceivably argue that he was trying to fool people into thinking that it was a bomb, but considering that the only authority figure in the school he showed it to on his own initiative was the one who would be the most likely to know what a clock looks like (and he didn't show it to any of his friends, much less represent it as a bomb), that argument also falls flat.

And wasn't this showing to his teacher anyway?

The engineering teacher he showed it to knew it was a clock and didn't do shit. It was the english teacher who demanded to see it assumed it was a Tactical Allah Akbar Device.

[Rusozak]

In my mind, this kid has shifted from an innocent teenager with a finesse for technology to a greedy little fuck. The lawyers got to him.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Also, the power chord... come on. Anyone ever seen a suitcase bomb that has a power chord too?

Comparison
-Top photo is of an actual suitcase bomb

-Bottom is Mohammed's clock

[Gauthier]

In my mind, this kid has shifted from an innocent teenager with a finesse for technology to a greedy little fuck. The lawyers got to him.

Because there's no such thing as negotiation and everyone pays the upfront demanded sum.

[Gauthier]

Also, the power chord... come on. Anyone ever seen a suitcase bomb that has a power chord too?

Comparison
-Top photo is of an actual suitcase bomb

-Bottom is Mohammed's clock

The problem being the photo makes the pencil case look as big as the suitcase.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

And wasn't this showing to his teacher anyway?

The engineering teacher he showed it to knew it was a clock and didn't do shit. It was the english teacher who demanded to see it assumed it was a Tactical Allah Akbar Device.

The more I look at it, and then look at actual suitcase bombs, the less I see how someone could have mistaken this for a real threat. Jeebus.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Also, the power chord... come on. Anyone ever seen a suitcase bomb that has a power chord too?

Comparison
-Top photo is of an actual suitcase bomb

-Bottom is Mohammed's clock

See, that's the scope of his genius. He put a fake power cord on his fake bomb to make it look like a real bomb disguised as a fake bomb.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Also, the power chord... come on. Anyone ever seen a suitcase bomb that has a power chord too?

Comparison
-Top photo is of an actual suitcase bomb

-Bottom is Mohammed's clock

The problem being the photo makes the pencil case look as big as the suitcase.

Unfortunately. When in reality, the pencil case is what, 8 inches? Someone posted the dimensions earlier. Was it you?

[Gauthier]

The problem being the photo makes the pencil case look as big as the suitcase.

Unfortunately. When in reality, the pencil case is what, 8 inches? Someone posted the dimensions earlier. Was it you?

I also posted a pic showing their dimensions compared to an adult human.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Also, the power chord... come on. Anyone ever seen a suitcase bomb that has a power chord too?

Comparison
-Top photo is of an actual suitcase bomb

-Bottom is Mohammed's clock

See, that's the scope of his genius. He put a fake power cord on his fake bomb to make it look like a real bomb disguised as a fake bomb.

Of course. How did I miss that?

[Exelia]

You're right, so you should add in attorney fees. I do not however think the school did such a ludicrous act that it requires a significant punishment as an institution.
.
Which of course should be removed, but is not a number that can be charged.


Which he needs to be capable of proving losses. Having people be mean to you is not a sufficient charge for emotional damage.

The kid that played little Anakin in Star Wars had his life ruined as a result. He was emotionally stunted and suffered pretty clear emotional damage. But he isn't entitled to shit, because it was the community, not the person who elevated him to stardom, that was the cause.


Again, you need to be capable of proving damages.

You can sue for expected losses and punitive damages, the latter being a number high enough to discourage a person or entity from doing the same thing again. The punitive damages are what I suspect make up the majority of this. I also suspect that the insurance company will press to settle this rather than have the school's stupidity dragged through the court.

I agree the punitive damages would make up the majority, but I don't believe they will be very excessive.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

You can sue for expected losses and punitive damages, the latter being a number high enough to discourage a person or entity from doing the same thing again. The punitive damages are what I suspect make up the majority of this. I also suspect that the insurance company will press to settle this rather than have the school's stupidity dragged through the court.

I agree the punitive damages would make up the majority, but I don't believe they will be very excessive.

Perhaps not, but the settlement rarely is that high. He'll probably get a few million out of it, but there will be a confidentiality clause meaning that we'll never know the exact sum.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Unfortunately. When in reality, the pencil case is what, 8 inches? Someone posted the dimensions earlier. Was it you?

I also posted a pic showing their dimensions compared to an adult human.

Ok, here's the case, with pencils inside.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I also posted a pic showing their dimensions compared to an adult human.

Ok, here's the case, with pencils inside.

It's all fun and games until you take out that Sharpie, then...BOOM!

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Ok, here's the case, with pencils inside.

It's all fun and games until you take out that Sharpie, then...BOOM!

The trigger's in the pair of scissors.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

It's all fun and games until you take out that Sharpie, then...BOOM!

The trigger's in the pair of scissors.

Smart, because that's what the disposal expert would reach for first in order to clip the wires (not shown).

[The Lone Alliance]

At no point during this entire process did anyone act as if they thought that this was an actual explosive device of any sort. Instead, they acted as if they were in possession of a clock.

If he had willingly made a fake bomb to knowingly try to scare students then he would have been arrested. That is why the police were called Yumyum.

[Gauthier]

At no point during this entire process did anyone act as if they thought that this was an actual explosive device of any sort. Instead, they acted as if they were in possession of a clock.

If he had willingly made a fake bomb to knowingly try to scare students then he would have been arrested. That is why the police were called Yumyum.

You mean...



... he was just being walked to the door with commemorative bracelets?

[Hyfling]

Incidentally the clock doesn't work, otherwise he'd know his 15 minutes are up.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

At no point during this entire process did anyone act as if they thought that this was an actual explosive device of any sort. Instead, they acted as if they were in possession of a clock.

If he had willingly made a fake bomb to knowingly try to scare students then he would have been arrested. That is why the police were called Yumyum.

He was taken into custody and questioned. He was arrested, but not charged.

[The Lone Alliance]

... he was just being walked to the door with commemorative bracelets?

Of course! That's the typical reward for teenagers who are believed to have been taking a practical joke too far.

He was taken into custody and questioned.

Due process in other words

He was arrested, but not charged.

Because the evidence proved that he did not act maliciously because of said questioning.
And I got charged and arrested mixed up, blame sleepiness.