Nobody has ever suggested they are okay with 15 million dollars, nor that he will get 15 million dollars in compensation.
Of course, if you were paying attention to the thread you'd see why they actually went with such a huge offer.
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by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:04 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Iwassoclose » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:07 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Iwassoclose wrote:
Why do you believe his "suffering" to be worth $15million dollars?
Nobody has ever suggested they are okay with 15 million dollars, nor that he will get 15 million dollars in compensation.
Of course, if you were paying attention to the thread you'd see why they actually went with such a huge offer.

by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:09 pm
Iwassoclose wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nobody has ever suggested they are okay with 15 million dollars, nor that he will get 15 million dollars in compensation.
Of course, if you were paying attention to the thread you'd see why they actually went with such a huge offer.
You can search up my name on the thread and see what my thoughts are on that.
Imperializt Russia wrote:Iwassoclose wrote:
Does not matter in the end. His suffering does not amount to that price, not even close.
Calm down. They'll never get that much and everyone who's not lost their minds at the idea of posting a stupidly high opening play begging to be whittled down realises it.
Even so - what gives you the right to say what it is worth? What qualifies you? On what basis do you make that claim?
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Iwassoclose » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:16 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Iwassoclose wrote:
You can search up my name on the thread and see what my thoughts are on that.
I'll just repost this since apparently you didn't get it the first time around:Imperializt Russia wrote:Calm down. They'll never get that much and everyone who's not lost their minds at the idea of posting a stupidly high opening play begging to be whittled down realises it.
Even so - what gives you the right to say what it is worth? What qualifies you? On what basis do you make that claim?
Iwassoclose wrote:No. This is way too much, what happened to the kid was wrong, but not $15 million wrong. People incarcerated for 30 years don't get half as much. I suspect they are going to niggle it down anyway.
If they do pay out what the kid is asking, then the only people that is going to get deprived is the other students who go to this school district.

by Infected Mushroom » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:16 pm
Ifreann wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
One theory is that she first thought it was a real bomb and took action. Upon closer inspection soon after, she knew it wasn't a bomb but was forced to follow school procedures regarding dangerous/disturbing pranks.
No action on her part was congruent with responsible behaviour from a teacher who suspects there is a bomb in her classroom.

by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:19 pm
Iwassoclose wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
I'll just repost this since apparently you didn't get it the first time around:
This is literally right below that post, which was my first in this thread.Iwassoclose wrote:No. This is way too much, what happened to the kid was wrong, but not $15 million wrong. People incarcerated for 30 years don't get half as much. I suspect they are going to niggle it down anyway.
If they do pay out what the kid is asking, then the only people that is going to get deprived is the other students who go to this school district.
Stop it with the condescension. It makes you look bad when you fail at it.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Iwassoclose » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:27 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Iwassoclose wrote:
This is literally right below that post, which was my first in this thread.
Stop it with the condescension. It makes you look bad when you fail at it.
Which apparently you still are not getting otherwise you wouldn't even mention it.
I am condescending when people don't get basic shit like this. What? You expect me to tell you "oh no, see, you are totally right, here have a medal" when you kick back to an old habit?

by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:35 pm
Iwassoclose wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
Which apparently you still are not getting otherwise you wouldn't even mention it.
I am condescending when people don't get basic shit like this. What? You expect me to tell you "oh no, see, you are totally right, here have a medal" when you kick back to an old habit?
Why wouldn't I mention it? It was a start to a discussion with a new person. Am I supposed to read through 73 pages of discussion to find out Dakini's position? I rather just spend the first few posts feeling him out and spend 5 minutes instead of hours.
Dont respond to my post, I am not looking to start a discussion with a self professed shit talker.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Iwassoclose » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:37 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Iwassoclose wrote:
Why wouldn't I mention it? It was a start to a discussion with a new person. Am I supposed to read through 73 pages of discussion to find out Dakini's position? I rather just spend the first few posts feeling him out and spend 5 minutes instead of hours.
Dont respond to my post, I am not looking to start a discussion with a self professed shit talker.
I don't recall you owning this forum, or the computer I am typing this from, or paying my internet bill.
Dakini's position was clear if you were arsed to look it up. This is why there's the backpage function in these forums and the search function up there. You can do the same thing I did to look up your posts.


by Ifreann » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:42 pm

by Gravlen » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:41 pm
Gauthier wrote:Gravlen wrote:Like what, exactly? Avoid being muslim and dark skinned? That's Maher's argument, which he spends five minutes making amids off-topic ranting.
Engaging with his teacher? Ahmed claims he did. He told them repeatedly it was a clock.
"There's a lot this kid could have done to avoid getting arrested" reads a bit like "there's a lot this girl could have done to avoid getting raped". Victim blaming.

by Gauthier » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:44 pm
Gravlen wrote:Gauthier wrote:
"There's a lot this kid could have done to avoid getting arrested" reads a bit like "there's a lot this girl could have done to avoid getting raped". Victim blaming.
Very much so, including guilt by association. Maher points out that other people sharing his religion has done bad things, and so the kid should not have brought a clock to school.

by Gravlen » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:44 pm
Scandinavian Nations wrote:His brief encounter with the police (something, I might add, many people would be better off for experiencing) was the result of modern school zero-tolerance paranoia.

by Dakini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:53 pm
Scandinavian Nations wrote:or expelled afterwards to help the school meet its race quotas (if he was white)

by Dakini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:55 pm

by Gauthier » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:57 pm
Dakini wrote:Iwassoclose wrote:
Why do you believe his "suffering" to be worth $15million dollars?
How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?
Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.

by Dakini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:57 pm
Iwassoclose wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
Which apparently you still are not getting otherwise you wouldn't even mention it.
I am condescending when people don't get basic shit like this. What? You expect me to tell you "oh no, see, you are totally right, here have a medal" when you kick back to an old habit?
Why wouldn't I mention it? It was a start to a discussion with a new person. Am I supposed to read through 73 pages of discussion to find out Dakini's position? I rather just spend the first few posts feelinghimher out and spend 5 minutes instead of hours.
Dont respond to my post, I am not looking to start a discussion with a self professed shit talker.

by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:58 pm
Gauthier wrote:Dakini wrote:How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?
Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.
How much would you like like to bet someone seriously said "They should be thankful they didn't all get sent to Gitmo"?
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by UED » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:59 pm
Dakini wrote:Iwassoclose wrote:
Why do you believe his "suffering" to be worth $15million dollars?
How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?
Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.

by Gauthier » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:59 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Gauthier wrote:
How much would you like like to bet someone seriously said "They should be thankful they didn't all get sent to Gitmo"?
And if they haven't well I'll say it so it doesn't go to waste in this thread:
They should be thankful they didn't all get sent to Gitmo. National Security is important cause 'Murica.
Did I do well enough?

by Dakini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:59 pm
Gauthier wrote:Dakini wrote:How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?
Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.
How much would you like like to bet someone seriously said "They should be thankful they didn't all get sent to Gitmo"?

by Gauthier » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:00 pm
UED wrote:Dakini wrote:How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?
Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.
People get killed (like cops murdering black civilians) and their families get compensation of like 2-3 million. This kid, though he has been harassed, does not deserve even a million in compensation. Sure the town's been racist to him but he's received a !@$%load of compensation indirectly.

by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:02 pm
UED wrote:Dakini wrote:How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?
Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.
People get killed (like cops murdering black civilians) and their families get compensation of like 2-3 million. This kid, though he has been harassed, does not deserve even a million in compensation. Sure the town's been racist to him but he's received a !@$%load of compensation indirectly.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by Dakini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:03 pm
UED wrote:Dakini wrote:How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?
Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.
People get killed (like cops murdering black civilians) and their families get compensation of like 2-3 million.
This kid, though he has been harassed, does not deserve even a million in compensation. Sure the town's been racist to him but he's received a !@$%load of compensation indirectly.
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