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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:04 pm

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Dakini wrote:Clearly it's unreasonable to expect that the parties which harmed you should pay for your suffering.


Why do you believe his "suffering" to be worth $15million dollars?


Nobody has ever suggested they are okay with 15 million dollars, nor that he will get 15 million dollars in compensation.

Of course, if you were paying attention to the thread you'd see why they actually went with such a huge offer.
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Postby Iwassoclose » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:07 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
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Why do you believe his "suffering" to be worth $15million dollars?


Nobody has ever suggested they are okay with 15 million dollars, nor that he will get 15 million dollars in compensation.

Of course, if you were paying attention to the thread you'd see why they actually went with such a huge offer.


You can search up my name on the thread and see what my thoughts are on that.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:09 pm

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Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nobody has ever suggested they are okay with 15 million dollars, nor that he will get 15 million dollars in compensation.

Of course, if you were paying attention to the thread you'd see why they actually went with such a huge offer.


You can search up my name on the thread and see what my thoughts are on that.


I'll just repost this since apparently you didn't get it the first time around:

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Iwassoclose wrote:
Does not matter in the end. His suffering does not amount to that price, not even close.

Calm down. They'll never get that much and everyone who's not lost their minds at the idea of posting a stupidly high opening play begging to be whittled down realises it.

Even so - what gives you the right to say what it is worth? What qualifies you? On what basis do you make that claim?
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Postby Iwassoclose » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:16 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Iwassoclose wrote:
You can search up my name on the thread and see what my thoughts are on that.


I'll just repost this since apparently you didn't get it the first time around:

Imperializt Russia wrote:Calm down. They'll never get that much and everyone who's not lost their minds at the idea of posting a stupidly high opening play begging to be whittled down realises it.

Even so - what gives you the right to say what it is worth? What qualifies you? On what basis do you make that claim?


This is literally right below that post, which was my first in this thread.
Iwassoclose wrote:No. This is way too much, what happened to the kid was wrong, but not $15 million wrong. People incarcerated for 30 years don't get half as much. I suspect they are going to niggle it down anyway.

If they do pay out what the kid is asking, then the only people that is going to get deprived is the other students who go to this school district.


Stop it with the condescension. It makes you look bad when you fail at it.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:16 pm

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One theory is that she first thought it was a real bomb and took action. Upon closer inspection soon after, she knew it wasn't a bomb but was forced to follow school procedures regarding dangerous/disturbing pranks.

No action on her part was congruent with responsible behaviour from a teacher who suspects there is a bomb in her classroom.


I think at least one (calling the police) was congruent

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:19 pm

Iwassoclose wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I'll just repost this since apparently you didn't get it the first time around:



This is literally right below that post, which was my first in this thread.
Iwassoclose wrote:No. This is way too much, what happened to the kid was wrong, but not $15 million wrong. People incarcerated for 30 years don't get half as much. I suspect they are going to niggle it down anyway.

If they do pay out what the kid is asking, then the only people that is going to get deprived is the other students who go to this school district.


Stop it with the condescension. It makes you look bad when you fail at it.


Which apparently you still are not getting otherwise you wouldn't even mention it.

I am condescending when people don't get basic shit like this. What? You expect me to tell you "oh no, see, you are totally right, here have a medal" when you kick back to an old habit?
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Postby Iwassoclose » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:27 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Iwassoclose wrote:
This is literally right below that post, which was my first in this thread.


Stop it with the condescension. It makes you look bad when you fail at it.


Which apparently you still are not getting otherwise you wouldn't even mention it.

I am condescending when people don't get basic shit like this. What? You expect me to tell you "oh no, see, you are totally right, here have a medal" when you kick back to an old habit?


Why wouldn't I mention it? It was a start to a discussion with a new person. Am I supposed to read through 73 pages of discussion to find out Dakini's position? I rather just spend the first few posts feeling him out and spend 5 minutes instead of hours.

Dont respond to my post, I am not looking to start a discussion with a self professed shit talker.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:35 pm

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Which apparently you still are not getting otherwise you wouldn't even mention it.

I am condescending when people don't get basic shit like this. What? You expect me to tell you "oh no, see, you are totally right, here have a medal" when you kick back to an old habit?


Why wouldn't I mention it? It was a start to a discussion with a new person. Am I supposed to read through 73 pages of discussion to find out Dakini's position? I rather just spend the first few posts feeling him out and spend 5 minutes instead of hours.

Dont respond to my post, I am not looking to start a discussion with a self professed shit talker.


I don't recall you owning this forum, or the computer I am typing this from, or paying my internet bill.

Dakini's position was clear if you were arsed to look it up. This is why there's the backpage function in these forums and the search function up there. You can do the same thing I did to look up your posts.
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Postby Iwassoclose » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:37 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
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Why wouldn't I mention it? It was a start to a discussion with a new person. Am I supposed to read through 73 pages of discussion to find out Dakini's position? I rather just spend the first few posts feeling him out and spend 5 minutes instead of hours.

Dont respond to my post, I am not looking to start a discussion with a self professed shit talker.


I don't recall you owning this forum, or the computer I am typing this from, or paying my internet bill.

Dakini's position was clear if you were arsed to look it up. This is why there's the backpage function in these forums and the search function up there. You can do the same thing I did to look up your posts.


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Postby Ifreann » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:42 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No action on her part was congruent with responsible behaviour from a teacher who suspects there is a bomb in her classroom.


I think at least one (calling the police) was congruent

The police should have been called at the earliest point at which doing so would not hinder the on-going evacuation, which should have begun immediately with that classroom and continued with the rest of the school as soon as the alarm could safely have been raised. That they were called eventually and for a different reason does not mean the school or the teacher was acting responsibly with regards to a suspected bomb.

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Postby Naushantiya » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:51 pm

Again, it's the Muslim card

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Postby Gravlen » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:41 pm

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Gravlen wrote:Like what, exactly? Avoid being muslim and dark skinned? That's Maher's argument, which he spends five minutes making amids off-topic ranting.

Engaging with his teacher? Ahmed claims he did. He told them repeatedly it was a clock.


"There's a lot this kid could have done to avoid getting arrested" reads a bit like "there's a lot this girl could have done to avoid getting raped". Victim blaming.

Very much so, including guilt by association. Maher points out that other people sharing his religion has done bad things, and so the kid should not have brought a clock to school.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:44 pm

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"There's a lot this kid could have done to avoid getting arrested" reads a bit like "there's a lot this girl could have done to avoid getting raped". Victim blaming.

Very much so, including guilt by association. Maher points out that other people sharing his religion has done bad things, and so the kid should not have brought a clock to school.


Arrogant condescending douche proclaiming himself an expert on Islamic studies. Probably got his degree from Dunning-Kruger University.
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:44 pm

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Gravlen wrote:Like what, exactly? Avoid being muslim and dark skinned?

That wouldn't have helped.

It would, according to what Maher is insinuating. And that part is, unfortunately, most likely true.

Scandinavian Nations wrote:His brief encounter with the police (something, I might add, many people would be better off for experiencing) was the result of modern school zero-tolerance paranoia.

And a fear of brown people terrorists. That's why the chief of police said the kid should have understood that one does not bring such items, i.e. a clock, to school in these dangerous times.
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Postby Dakini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:53 pm

Scandinavian Nations wrote:or expelled afterwards to help the school meet its race quotas (if he was white)

lol

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Postby Dakini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:55 pm

Iwassoclose wrote:
Dakini wrote:Clearly it's unreasonable to expect that the parties which harmed you should pay for your suffering.


Why do you believe his "suffering" to be worth $15million dollars?

How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?

Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:57 pm

Dakini wrote:
Iwassoclose wrote:
Why do you believe his "suffering" to be worth $15million dollars?

How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?

Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.


How much would you like like to bet someone seriously said "They should be thankful they didn't all get sent to Gitmo"?
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Postby Dakini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:57 pm

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Which apparently you still are not getting otherwise you wouldn't even mention it.

I am condescending when people don't get basic shit like this. What? You expect me to tell you "oh no, see, you are totally right, here have a medal" when you kick back to an old habit?


Why wouldn't I mention it? It was a start to a discussion with a new person. Am I supposed to read through 73 pages of discussion to find out Dakini's position? I rather just spend the first few posts feeling him her out and spend 5 minutes instead of hours.

Dont respond to my post, I am not looking to start a discussion with a self professed shit talker.

Fixed that for you. Fucking seriously.

Also, I've been posting on this thread a lot. This isn't the "first few posts".

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:58 pm

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Dakini wrote:How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?

Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.


How much would you like like to bet someone seriously said "They should be thankful they didn't all get sent to Gitmo"?


And if they haven't well I'll say it so it doesn't go to waste in this thread:

They should be thankful they didn't all get sent to Gitmo. National Security is important cause 'Murica.

Did I do well enough?
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Postby UED » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:59 pm

Dakini wrote:
Iwassoclose wrote:
Why do you believe his "suffering" to be worth $15million dollars?

How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?

Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.


People get killed (like cops murdering black civilians) and their families get compensation of like 2-3 million. This kid, though he has been harassed, does not deserve even a million in compensation. Sure the town's been racist to him but he's received a !@$%load of compensation indirectly.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:59 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
How much would you like like to bet someone seriously said "They should be thankful they didn't all get sent to Gitmo"?


And if they haven't well I'll say it so it doesn't go to waste in this thread:

They should be thankful they didn't all get sent to Gitmo. National Security is important cause 'Murica.

Did I do well enough?


Throw in outrage at them demanding 15 million when they could have been sent to Gitmo and it's perfect.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Dakini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:59 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Dakini wrote:How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?

Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.


How much would you like like to bet someone seriously said "They should be thankful they didn't all get sent to Gitmo"?

Wouldn't surprise me.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:00 pm

UED wrote:
Dakini wrote:How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?

Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.


People get killed (like cops murdering black civilians) and their families get compensation of like 2-3 million. This kid, though he has been harassed, does not deserve even a million in compensation. Sure the town's been racist to him but he's received a !@$%load of compensation indirectly.


Because an invitation to the White House and not really guaranteed scholarship more than make up for forced relocation and lost income.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:02 pm

UED wrote:
Dakini wrote:How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?

Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.


People get killed (like cops murdering black civilians) and their families get compensation of like 2-3 million. This kid, though he has been harassed, does not deserve even a million in compensation. Sure the town's been racist to him but he's received a !@$%load of compensation indirectly.


Nobody thinks that other minorities (Latino, Asian, and Black) are part of "civilization jihad" as she put it on Glenn Beck's show.
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Postby Dakini » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:03 pm

UED wrote:
Dakini wrote:How do you put a price on your constitutionally-guaranteed rights?

Also, the mayor of the city went on national media claiming that he was a terrorist, his family had to relocate due to harassment they received, his parents lost business.... there's definitely a lot of suffering that's hard to put down in a numerical value. I'm not sure it's $15 million worth, but that's a reasonable opening bid.


People get killed (like cops murdering black civilians) and their families get compensation of like 2-3 million.

They should obviously get more.

This kid, though he has been harassed, does not deserve even a million in compensation. Sure the town's been racist to him but he's received a !@$%load of compensation indirectly.

Eh, actually, the loss of business to his parents could be on the order of a million. Not to mention any future earnings he might lose out on by being known as the "clock kid" and potential terrorist as a result of this incident and the mayor's inability to STFU and not slander a minor in the national media. And of course the family had to relocate.

The compensation he's received from other sources is irrelevant. Those who put him and his family through this should be punished for their actions.

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