Clock kid sues for $15 million

[North Calaveras]

Highschool staff dosn't have the same training

and it clearly looks like a type of IED, that thing does not jump out as clock by any glance.

You're right. High school teachers are trained to not even touch the thing, evacuate the area and contact the authorities. Guess which was the only one of these things that this teacher did?

we don't know if they were trained or how that training was conducted.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

In a warzone or on a military base, I agree with you. In a high school though?

Highschool staff dosn't have the same training

and it clearly looks like a type of IED, that thing does not jump out as clock by any glance.

Looks more like a cheap Hollywood knockoff from where I am standing rather than an IED, especially considering the case surrounding it.

You would have to be hard pressed to make an accurate assessment that that thing, even if turned into an IED, could kill someone as it was.

[The Forsworn Knights]

Lots of people dont realize, its the kid's PARENTS filing the suit.
Additionally the father has attempted to become the president of Sudan multiple times, and this might be him seeking extra funding before launching another campaign.

[Fartsniffage]

Does it matter? in your case your saying that rights were violated

I believe my second amendment rights would be violated if some cop made me get on the ground or put my hands on my head cause some asshole called on me for open carry, I would feel violated.

but im getting off topic.

If that happens then you can sue. I'd actually be interested in how far you'd get.

[Infected Mushroom]

Highschool staff dosn't have the same training

and it clearly looks like a type of IED, that thing does not jump out as clock by any glance.

Looks more like a cheap Hollywood knockoff from where I am standing rather than an IED, especially considering the case surrounding it.

You would have to be hard pressed to make an accurate assessment that that thing, even if turned into an IED, could kill someone as it was.

it passes the first impression test with me, so a reasonable person could have suspected that it was a dangerous bomb (though some would, as you have correctly, intuitively feel it is not; but its not clear cut)

[Lunatic Goofballs]

But it can be expected of a schoolteacher/school administration to realize that thinking a 14 year old kid's pencil box with a clock face on it might be a bomb in Irving fucking Texas might not be reasonable, but is paranoid to the point of Olympic caliber stupidity.

with the present War on Terror, it isn't paranoia

Yes it is. A person in America is more likely to get killed tripping over their cat than by a terrorist.

[North Calaveras]

Highschool staff dosn't have the same training

and it clearly looks like a type of IED, that thing does not jump out as clock by any glance.

Looks more like a cheap Hollywood knockoff from where I am standing rather than an IED, especially considering the case surrounding it.

You would have to be hard pressed to make an accurate assessment that that thing, even if turned into an IED, could kill someone as it was.

Idk, the M67's Ive thrown aren't all that big and they could kill anyone within 5 meters and seriously hurt others farther out and they are not big by any means.

Your right, I couldn't make an accurate assement,that's what EOD's job is. Not to mention, if it's that hard to tell it's a clock then something is fishy.

[Galloism]

Looks more like a cheap Hollywood knockoff from where I am standing rather than an IED, especially considering the case surrounding it.

You would have to be hard pressed to make an accurate assessment that that thing, even if turned into an IED, could kill someone as it was.

it passes the first impression test with me, so a reasonable person could have suspected that it was a dangerous bomb (though some would, as you have correctly, intuitively feel it is not; but its not clear cut)

I demand proof that your first impression is in any way representative of what a reasonable person would suspect.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Looks more like a cheap Hollywood knockoff from where I am standing rather than an IED, especially considering the case surrounding it.

You would have to be hard pressed to make an accurate assessment that that thing, even if turned into an IED, could kill someone as it was.

Idk, the M67's Ive thrown aren't all that big and they could kill anyone within 5 meters and seriously hurt others farther out and they are not big by any means.

Your right, I couldn't make an accurate assement,that's what EOD's job is. Not to mention, if it's that hard to tell it's a clock then something is fishy.

Yes, they are M67s

You're Military Police, and you are tossing M67s, surely you know how frag grenades work, right?

[North Calaveras]

Idk, the M67's Ive thrown aren't all that big and they could kill anyone within 5 meters and seriously hurt others farther out and they are not big by any means.

Your right, I couldn't make an accurate assement,that's what EOD's job is. Not to mention, if it's that hard to tell it's a clock then something is fishy.

Yes, they are M67s

You're Military Police, and you are tossing M67s, surely you know how frag grenades work, right?

I do indeed, and it's not like a IED(well, in some ways, also depends on the munition being involved)

I'm just pointing out, something that small could easily contain enough explosive to kill a few people, that's all.

I also now think this is more of the parents ploy than his.

[Infected Mushroom]

with the present War on Terror, it isn't paranoia

Yes it is. A person in America is more likely to get killed tripping over their cat than by a terrorist.

Okay

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yes, they are M67s

You're Military Police, and you are tossing M67s, surely you know how frag grenades work, right?

I do indeed, and it's not like a IED(well, in some ways, also depends on the munition being involved)

I'm just pointing out, something that small could easily contain enough explosive to kill a few people, that's all.

I also now think this is more of the parents ploy than his.

I mean, sure, it could, but what kind of explosive would you use that could be small enough to make the pencil case not suspicious upon opening it and yet deadly?

Mind, we're not dealing with a briefcase, we're dealing with a rather small-ish box.

[Infected Mushroom]

it passes the first impression test with me, so a reasonable person could have suspected that it was a dangerous bomb (though some would, as you have correctly, intuitively feel it is not; but its not clear cut)

I demand proof that your first impression is in any way representative of what a reasonable person would suspect.

When I showed the picture to my family members and a few friends and asked them what they thought it was...

they said somewhat hesitantly ''a bomb''? None of them said ''hey its clearly a pencil case.''

[Galloism]

I demand proof that your first impression is in any way representative of what a reasonable person would suspect.

When I showed the picture to my family members and a few friends and asked them what they thought it was...

they said somewhat hesitantly ''a bomb''? None of them said ''hey its clearly a pencil case.''

Proof i said. Your anecdotes prove nothing regarding your impression being any way representative of what a reasonable person would suspect.

[North Calaveras]

I do indeed, and it's not like a IED(well, in some ways, also depends on the munition being involved)

I'm just pointing out, something that small could easily contain enough explosive to kill a few people, that's all.

I also now think this is more of the parents ploy than his.

I mean, sure, it could, but what kind of explosive would you use that could be small enough to make the pencil case not suspicious upon opening it and yet deadly?

Beats me, I don't make IED's or presume to know how to(if someone gave me some materials I could probably rig something after enough playing around)

I'm just pointing out that

1. It does look like a clock, more like a bomb, even if it is small.
2. Sueing after everything that has happend makes me think they are being dishonest, especially considering the amount of money involved(more than most of us will make in our lives, probably combined in some cases)
3. Who knows why the teacher grabbed it, everyone dosn't always make smart decisions, Id also like to see when and how they conducted this so called bomb training.

[Infected Mushroom]

I do indeed, and it's not like a IED(well, in some ways, also depends on the munition being involved)

I'm just pointing out, something that small could easily contain enough explosive to kill a few people, that's all.

I also now think this is more of the parents ploy than his.

I mean, sure, it could, but what kind of explosive would you use that could be small enough to make the pencil case not suspicious upon opening it and yet deadly?

Mind, we're not dealing with a briefcase, we're dealing with a rather small-ish box.

in movies they show small bombs all the time

In my James Bond PS2 shooter they have a weapon where you can drop a timer bomb that's approximately the size of the thing in the picture. It goes BOOM pretty decisively.

Only someone moderately knowledgeable about general bombs would know anything about semtex volume or any of the other technicalities. The average person can't be expected to have that kind of literacy. Most of us don't know how big a bomb has to be. If it looks like a bomb from the movies, then alarms could reasonably go off.

[Uxupox]

I do indeed, and it's not like a IED(well, in some ways, also depends on the munition being involved)

I'm just pointing out, something that small could easily contain enough explosive to kill a few people, that's all.

I also now think this is more of the parents ploy than his.

I mean, sure, it could, but what kind of explosive would you use that could be small enough to make the pencil case not suspicious upon opening it and yet deadly?

Mind, we're not dealing with a briefcase, we're dealing with a rather small-ish box.

You probably have to ask EOD for reference and they most likely won't tell you since their security clearance is SECRET.

[Infected Mushroom]

When I showed the picture to my family members and a few friends and asked them what they thought it was...

they said somewhat hesitantly ''a bomb''? None of them said ''hey its clearly a pencil case.''

Proof i said. Your anecdotes prove nothing regarding your impression being any way representative of what a reasonable person would suspect.

they establish that there is at least some degree of controversy regarding what the thing looks like and with respect to first impressions; hence it is reasonable to assume that some people could have seen it and genuinely thought it was a bomb while not being at the same time a fool

probabilistically, there is too low of a chance that all of the people I've quizzed are in some way unbelievably and abnormally technologically illiterate

[Lunatic Goofballs]

I mean, sure, it could, but what kind of explosive would you use that could be small enough to make the pencil case not suspicious upon opening it and yet deadly?

Mind, we're not dealing with a briefcase, we're dealing with a rather small-ish box.

in movies they show small bombs all the time

In my James Bond PS2 shooter they have a weapon where you can drop a timer bomb that's approximately the size of the thing in the picture. It goes BOOM pretty decisively.

Only someone moderately knowledgeable about general bombs would know anything about semtex volume or any of the other technicalities. The average person can't be expected to have that kind of literacy. Most of us don't know how big a bomb has to be. If it looks like a bomb from the movies, then alarms could reasonably go off.

And yet a 14 year old kid built it?

[Galloism]

I mean, sure, it could, but what kind of explosive would you use that could be small enough to make the pencil case not suspicious upon opening it and yet deadly?

Mind, we're not dealing with a briefcase, we're dealing with a rather small-ish box.

in movies they show small bombs all the time

In my James Bond PS2 shooter they have a weapon where you can drop a timer bomb that's approximately the size of the thing in the picture. It goes BOOM pretty decisively.

Only someone moderately knowledgeable about general bombs would know anything about semtex volume or any of the other technicalities. The average person can't be expected to have that kind of literacy. Most of us don't know how big a bomb has to be. If it looks like a bomb from the movies, then alarms could reasonably go off.

I found something that looks like a bomb. The teacher is a terrorist!

[Infected Mushroom]

in movies they show small bombs all the time

In my James Bond PS2 shooter they have a weapon where you can drop a timer bomb that's approximately the size of the thing in the picture. It goes BOOM pretty decisively.

Only someone moderately knowledgeable about general bombs would know anything about semtex volume or any of the other technicalities. The average person can't be expected to have that kind of literacy. Most of us don't know how big a bomb has to be. If it looks like a bomb from the movies, then alarms could reasonably go off.

I found something that looks like a bomb. The teacher is a terrorist!

My first impression is that it looks like a computer part.

[North Arkana]

in movies they show small bombs all the time

In my James Bond PS2 shooter they have a weapon where you can drop a timer bomb that's approximately the size of the thing in the picture. It goes BOOM pretty decisively.

Only someone moderately knowledgeable about general bombs would know anything about semtex volume or any of the other technicalities. The average person can't be expected to have that kind of literacy. Most of us don't know how big a bomb has to be. If it looks like a bomb from the movies, then alarms could reasonably go off.

And yet a 14 year old kid built it?

There aren't enough tacos in the world to break IM's contrarian stance... I don't see the point in continuing the debate with IM.

[North Calaveras]

in movies they show small bombs all the time

In my James Bond PS2 shooter they have a weapon where you can drop a timer bomb that's approximately the size of the thing in the picture. It goes BOOM pretty decisively.

Only someone moderately knowledgeable about general bombs would know anything about semtex volume or any of the other technicalities. The average person can't be expected to have that kind of literacy. Most of us don't know how big a bomb has to be. If it looks like a bomb from the movies, then alarms could reasonably go off.

I found something that looks like a bomb. The teacher is a terrorist!

horrible example, that's coming from me using my custom gaming pc as I type

it clearly looks like a computer, just with the side taken off

It dosn't look like a damn bomb inside a case and anyone with half a brain can see that it's clearly a computer that's merely missing the side panel.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I mean, sure, it could, but what kind of explosive would you use that could be small enough to make the pencil case not suspicious upon opening it and yet deadly?

Mind, we're not dealing with a briefcase, we're dealing with a rather small-ish box.

You probably have to ask EOD for reference and they most likely won't tell you since their security clearance is SECRET.

No shit.

Also, mind, I'm not even asking because I'm into blowing up schools, but really, it makes no sense to think a 14 year old has the kind of materials to make a good household explosive that can kill people and put it inside the lining of a pencilcase.

[Infected Mushroom]

in movies they show small bombs all the time

In my James Bond PS2 shooter they have a weapon where you can drop a timer bomb that's approximately the size of the thing in the picture. It goes BOOM pretty decisively.

Only someone moderately knowledgeable about general bombs would know anything about semtex volume or any of the other technicalities. The average person can't be expected to have that kind of literacy. Most of us don't know how big a bomb has to be. If it looks like a bomb from the movies, then alarms could reasonably go off.

And yet a 14 year old kid built it?

Maybe someone else built it for him or got it for him from abroad and then instructed him to use it

I've also heard that some terrorist cells use children for some operations