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Should we legalize drugs?

Yes, legalize them all.
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Just decriminalize them.
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Only some, not all.
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No.
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Total votes : 362

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Postby Daburuetchi » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:17 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Jordkloden wrote:It's not the same. When you shoot up, it's pretty obvious you're going to get addicted. When you go snowboarding, you don't necessarily break your leg every time.

You don't have to shoot up any drug.

Not everyone who uses gets addicted.


The majority do. That's what their fucking designed for. Are people suppose to be punished for the rest of their life for a stupid mistake?

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:18 pm

Jordkloden wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You don't have to shoot up any drug.

Not everyone who uses gets addicted.

But the majority does. Does it not? For softer drugs like weed, maybe not, but for heroin?

...no.

Depending on what type of heroin it is. If it's tar, you can smoke it. If it's china or brown, you can rail or smoke it.
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Postby Greater Allidron » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:18 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Greater Allidron wrote:Drugs are a vile disgusting form of recreation. I believe we should ban all drugs, hard liquor and cigarettes.


I'm sipping on some whiskey and smoking a cigarette while reading your post funnily enough. Except tobacco and alcohol isn't as addictive as hard drugs, such as heroin for example.

But can be very destructive.
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Postby Gim » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:19 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You don't have to shoot up any drug.

Not everyone who uses gets addicted.


The majority do. That's what their fucking designed for. Are people suppose to be punished for the rest of their life for a stupid mistake?


There can always be guidelines on what type of person should use that drug. If the person is likely to get addicted, they can just be advised to not use that drug.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:19 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Jordkloden wrote:It's not the same. When you shoot up, it's pretty obvious you're going to get addicted. When you go snowboarding, you don't necessarily break your leg every time.

You don't have to shoot up any drug.

Not everyone who uses gets addicted.

Persistent use will result in addiction.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:19 pm

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Palmyrion wrote:Only for medical purposes will I allow it.


I'm not sure how drugs can be more effective and less-conducive to drastic side effects than regular medical procedures.

...are you literally unaware of the existence of drugs? You realize how many people have prescriptions for oxycodone, dilaudid, adderall?
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Postby Kraylandia » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:20 pm

Greater Allidron wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:
I'm sipping on some whiskey and smoking a cigarette while reading your post funnily enough. Except tobacco and alcohol isn't as addictive as hard drugs, such as heroin for example.

But can be very destructive.


Yeah, they definitely can be destructive to your body, not going to be stupid enough to deny that - however, I don't really see people robbing and killing each other over a packet of cigarettes.
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Postby Jordkloden » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:20 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Jordkloden wrote:But the majority does. Does it not? For softer drugs like weed, maybe not, but for heroin?

...no.

Depending on what type of heroin it is. If it's tar, you can smoke it. If it's china or brown, you can rail or smoke it.

What about injection?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:20 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:The majority do. That's what their fucking designed for. Are people suppose to be punished for the rest of their life for a stupid mistake?

If they want to stop using, they should be able to go to rehab.

And as I've already shown, drug use goes down with decriminalization.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:21 pm

Jordkloden wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:...no.

Depending on what type of heroin it is. If it's tar, you can smoke it. If it's china or brown, you can rail or smoke it.

What about injection?

What about it?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:22 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Greater Allidron wrote:But can be very destructive.


Yeah, they definitely can be destructive to your body, not going to be stupid enough to deny that - however, I don't really see people robbing and killing each other over a packet of cigarettes.

You saw exactly that when alcohol was banned.

Logic follows that that would end with prohibition.
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Postby Gim » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:22 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You don't have to shoot up any drug.

Not everyone who uses gets addicted.

Persistent use will result in addiction.


Which is how you should take medications.
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Postby Jordkloden » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:22 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Jordkloden wrote:What about injection?

What about it?

Will it be more addictive than smoking heroin?
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Postby Daburuetchi » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:22 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Gim wrote:
I'm not sure how drugs can be more effective and less-conducive to drastic side effects than regular medical procedures.

...are you literally unaware of the existence of drugs? You realize how many people have prescriptions for oxycodone, dilaudid, adderall?


There's a reason why it's a felony to sell them to someone else it's not perscribed to and why they're plastered in warning labels telling you to only take x amount

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Postby Gim » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:23 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:...are you literally unaware of the existence of drugs? You realize how many people have prescriptions for oxycodone, dilaudid, adderall?


There's a reason why it's a felony to sell them to someone else it's not perscribed to and why they're plastered in warning labels telling you to only take x amount


Exactly. Also, taking oxycodone, adderall, and other types of dangerous drugs is not the ideal method of cure for most people.
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Postby Daburuetchi » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:24 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Daburuetchi wrote:The majority do. That's what their fucking designed for. Are people suppose to be punished for the rest of their life for a stupid mistake?

If they want to stop using, they should be able to go to rehab.

And as I've already shown, drug use goes down with decriminalization.


Which is not the same as legalization and it's a waste of billions of dollars curing addicted people

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Postby Daburuetchi » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:25 pm

Gim wrote:
Daburuetchi wrote:
The majority do. That's what their fucking designed for. Are people suppose to be punished for the rest of their life for a stupid mistake?


There can always be guidelines on what type of person should use that drug. If the person is likely to get addicted, they can just be advised to not use that drug.


Again people are stupid. It only takes one toke/shot for them to be under physical complusion. They ain't going to listen to reason

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:25 pm

Jordkloden wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:What about it?

Will it be more addictive than smoking heroin?

Yes.
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Postby Jordkloden » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:26 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Jordkloden wrote:Will it be more addictive than smoking heroin?

Yes.

That's usually what I think of when I hear the word "heroin." I can be a bit ignorant of the smoking part sometimes.
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Postby Gim » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:27 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:
Gim wrote:
There can always be guidelines on what type of person should use that drug. If the person is likely to get addicted, they can just be advised to not use that drug.


Again people are stupid. It only takes one toke/shot for them to be under physical complusion. They ain't going to listen to reason


They just find it soothing, that's why. Not really much other reason. Medical benefits? Just go to a doctor and get normal treatment. Excuses, excuses.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:28 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:
Gim wrote:
There can always be guidelines on what type of person should use that drug. If the person is likely to get addicted, they can just be advised to not use that drug.


Again people are stupid. It only takes one toke/shot for them to be under physical complusion. They ain't going to listen to reason

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:28 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:If they want to stop using, they should be able to go to rehab.

And as I've already shown, drug use goes down with decriminalization.


Which is not the same as legalization and it's a waste of billions of dollars curing addicted people

Not when it's legalized and they fund their own rehab.
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Postby Gim » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:29 pm

Jordkloden wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Yes.

That's usually what I think of when I hear the word "heroin." I can be a bit ignorant of the smoking part sometimes.


Isn't tobacco enough for people? I mean, in fact, you can even live without tobacco.
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Postby Daburuetchi » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:30 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Daburuetchi wrote:
Which is not the same as legalization and it's a waste of billions of dollars curing addicted people

Not when it's legalized and they fund their own rehab.


Which they can't do because they spend all their money on drugs because that is how hard drugs work. How many times to I have to say this?

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Postby Jordkloden » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:31 pm

Gim wrote:
Jordkloden wrote:That's usually what I think of when I hear the word "heroin." I can be a bit ignorant of the smoking part sometimes.


Isn't tobacco enough for people? I mean, in fact, you can even live without tobacco.

But you can't live without Dr. Pepper. That's why it's my drug of choice.
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