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Postby Tutukerala » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:01 pm

Yedmnrutika Gavr wrote:to me a christian is anyone who believes in the values christ did. with that in mind some catholics are christian and some are not. some protestants are christian and some are not.


No a Christian is one who accepts the Teachings of the Church, found in Scripture and repeated by the Fathers of the Church.

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Postby Gim » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:02 pm

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Yedmnrutika Gavr wrote:to me a christian is anyone who believes in the values christ did. with that in mind some catholics are christian and some are not. some protestants are christian and some are not.


No a Christian is one who accepts the Teachings of the Church, found in Scripture and repeated by the Fathers of the Church.


Also Jesus Christ. He cannot be taken out of the equation.
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Postby Tutukerala » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:03 pm

Gim wrote:
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No a Christian is one who accepts the Teachings of the Church, found in Scripture and repeated by the Fathers of the Church.


Also Jesus Christ. He cannot be taken out of the equation.


Well the Teachings of Christ are found in Scripture, but yes, the Teachings of Christ.

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Postby Daburuetchi » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:03 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:A protestant saying Catholicism isn't Christianity? He is aware that he is a fucking heretic, right? Not even joking, Protestantism is heresy.


Jesus tovarish you sound like you're going to start an inquisition and vote to approve the council of Trent. I thought we abandoned this kinda talk after the thirty years war taught us what this kinda talk results in
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Postby Yedmnrutika Gavr » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:04 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Yedmnrutika Gavr wrote:to me a christian is anyone who believes in the values christ did. with that in mind some catholics are christian and some are not. some protestants are christian and some are not.


What? Can you explain a little bit what you mean?


i mean i dont consider someone, protestant or catholic, who is greedy and an oppressive to be a christian. lots of people call themselves christians such as politicians and big businessmen but they arent in my book. they dont resemble the teachings of christ at all :/

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Postby Uxupox » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:05 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:A protestant saying Catholicism isn't Christianity? He is aware that he is a fucking heretic, right? Not even joking, Protestantism is heresy.


Jesus tovarish you sound like you're going to start an inquisition and vote to approve the council of Trent. I thought we abandoned this kinda talk after the thirty years war taught us what this kinda talk results in


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Postby Gim » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:05 pm

Yedmnrutika Gavr wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
What? Can you explain a little bit what you mean?


i mean i dont consider someone, protestant or catholic, who is greedy and an oppressive to be a christian. lots of people call themselves christians such as politicians and big businessmen but they arent in my book. they dont resemble the teachings of christ at all :/


They don't look Christian, but as Christ said, we cannot really judge if they are Christians or not.
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Postby Tutukerala » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:06 pm

Yedmnrutika Gavr wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
What? Can you explain a little bit what you mean?


i mean i dont consider someone, protestant or catholic, who is greedy and an oppressive to be a christian. lots of people call themselves christians such as politicians and big businessmen but they arent in my book. they dont resemble the teachings of christ at all :/



True, many people try to act as the Followers of Christ, yet it says in there Book, to do a certain thing, they do the opposite.

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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:06 pm

No, they are Popeist heathens who have been corrupted by the Jewist agenda, of/c.
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Postby Uxupox » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:06 pm

Yedmnrutika Gavr wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
What? Can you explain a little bit what you mean?


i mean i dont consider someone, protestant or catholic, who is greedy and an oppressive to be a christian. lots of people call themselves christians such as politicians and big businessmen but they arent in my book. they dont resemble the teachings of christ at all :/


Yea it's a sad thing to see but oh well. What can one do.
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Postby Yedmnrutika Gavr » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:07 pm

Gim wrote:
Yedmnrutika Gavr wrote:
i mean i dont consider someone, protestant or catholic, who is greedy and an oppressive to be a christian. lots of people call themselves christians such as politicians and big businessmen but they arent in my book. they dont resemble the teachings of christ at all :/


They don't look Christian, but as Christ said, we cannot really judge if they are Christians or not.


sure. no one can discern their heart but the creator.

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Postby Daburuetchi » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:07 pm

Everyone knows the wincestious messalian faithful are the only true Christians
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Merizoc wrote:No, they are Popeist heathens who have been corrupted by the Jewist agenda, of/c.

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Postby Cruxa » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:07 pm

Baldapehlva wrote:As a good, devout Catholic myself, I'd say yes. But let's get to the story.

I was talking to my friend, who is a Protestant. We were just chatting, and then she said, "Catholics aren't even Christian, amirite?"

I was taken aback, offended. I didn't show it, and I just forgot about it. Then I searched it up, and the internet is certainly divided. So this is what I pose to NSG: Are Catholics Christians? I have a definite yes, but I just want to see other people's opinions.

P.S. You could even divvy it up further, discussing if the Eastern rites are part of Catholicism. But let's stick to the topic at hand.

Links to the topic: http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/why-do-some-protestant-denominations-not-consider-catholics-to-be-christians-and-how-
http://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Christian.html
An opposer's side: http://www.born-again-christian.info/catholics.htm


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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:08 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:
Togghran wrote:Yes. However, at least where I live, Catholics use the terms Catholic and Christian interchangeably. As a Protestant, that's what ticks me off.


Sounds like you should write down some theses about your grievance

Maybe nail them to a church door?
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Postby Nickel Empire » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:08 pm

Yes, how are they not?
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Postby Daburuetchi » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:09 pm

Nickel Empire wrote:Yes, how are they not?


Well they're extremely unorthodox in comparisons to Protestants but I would still call them Christians.
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Merizoc wrote:No, they are Popeist heathens who have been corrupted by the Jewist agenda, of/c.

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Postby Togghran » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:15 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Daburuetchi wrote:
Sounds like you should write down some theses about your grievance

Maybe nail them to a church door?

95 or so, that should be enough, eh?
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:17 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:
Nickel Empire wrote:Yes, how are they not?


Well they're extremely unorthodox in comparisons to Protestants but I would still call them Christians.

What?
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:19 pm

Tutukerala wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:A protestant saying Catholicism isn't Christianity? He is aware that he is a fucking heretic, right? Not even joking, Protestantism is heresy.


And you don't know what you are talking about.

How in the hell is it not heresy? It betrayed Christian doctrine since its beginning.
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New confederate ramenia wrote:
Daburuetchi wrote:
Well they're extremely unorthodox in comparisons to Protestants but I would still call them Christians.

What?


Actually, aren't they both un-Orthodox? The Orthodox Christians, certainly, are the most orthodox.
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Postby Daburuetchi » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:21 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
Daburuetchi wrote:
Well they're extremely unorthodox in comparisons to Protestants but I would still call them Christians.

What?


Does this really require an explanation? Popes, 7 sacraments, infallibility and transubstantiation ain't in the bible
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:22 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Tutukerala wrote:And you don't know what you are talking about.

How in the hell is it not heresy? It betrayed Christian doctrine since its beginning.

From the Protestant point of view, it's Catholicism that is heretical and deviated from true Christianity.

Sola scriptura, my friend.
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