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Postby Lipnitia » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:17 am

Val Halla wrote:There was an explosion in Wales. Not terrorist

Not this intense, saw this myself, and saw the Wales one on the news
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Postby Tekeristan » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:17 am

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Boilers do this. They explode when exposed to intense heat; because the pressure inside the boiler doesn't have anywhere to escape to. There are incidents of boilers blowing up to prove this.

Intense heat, where from, I say?


A “massive explosion” during a fire on a building site terrified workers in west London,

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Postby Lipnitia » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:18 am

Tekeristan wrote:
Lipnitia wrote:Intense heat, where from, I say?


A “massive explosion” during a fire on a building site terrified workers in west London,

That's where they're wrong, never saw any fire, was at the window when it happened
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Postby Tekeristan » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:19 am

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That's where they're wrong, never saw any fire, was at the window when it happened


I much more trust a news report from the british police/fire department from people who were on the sight then what you saw from a window not even next to the sight.

THERE WAS SMOKE IN THE IMAGE YOU EVEN POSTED.

Fires creates smoke. Is there seriously any doubt in this?
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:22 am

Tekeristan wrote:
Lipnitia wrote:That's where they're wrong, never saw any fire, was at the window when it happened


I much more trust a news report from the british police/fire department from people who were on the sight then what you saw from a window not even next to the sight.

THERE WAS SMOKE IN THE IMAGE YOU EVEN POSTED.

Fires creates smoke. Is there seriously any doubt in this?


Because if they accept that they might have to accept there's not a Daesh cell in the capital.
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Postby Lipnitia » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:22 am

Tekeristan wrote:
Lipnitia wrote:That's where they're wrong, never saw any fire, was at the window when it happened


I much more trust a news report from the british police/fire department from people who were on the sight then what you saw from a window not even next to the sight.

THERE WAS SMOKE IN THE IMAGE YOU EVEN POSTED.

Fires creates smoke. Is there seriously any doubt in this?

The explosion created this smoke. Saw a fire myself at the Landsowne Pub and that is certainly not a fire.
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Postby Tekeristan » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:24 am

Lipnitia wrote:
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I much more trust a news report from the british police/fire department from people who were on the sight then what you saw from a window not even next to the sight.

THERE WAS SMOKE IN THE IMAGE YOU EVEN POSTED.

Fires creates smoke. Is there seriously any doubt in this?

The explosion created this smoke. Saw a fire myself at the Landsowne Pub and that is certainly not a fire.


Well I'm sorry to inform you that there was a fire. The news report you posted reports a fire, and fire would be a direct link to the canisters/boilers exploding due to pressure.

Intense heat creates smoke. That smoke comes from flammable material, in this case its the gas and the tonnes of building material in the construction site. A fire started, and cooked a canister till the internal pressure caused it to explode. That throws around much more intense heat as the gas is exposed to a direct flame now that its steel shell is gone.

Terrorists have no reason whatsoever to waste their manpower and resources on attacking a construction site.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:25 am

Tekeristan wrote:Everyone's all jumpy now.

" I didn't get my mail today.. "

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:29 am

You'd think if there was a Daesh cell they'd have gone to Birmingham today, not blown up a building site in the arse-end of East London.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:31 am

Lipnitia wrote:
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That's where they're wrong, never saw any fire, was at the window when it happened

Are you aware that fire can exist even if you personally cannot see it?

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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:37 am

Vassenor wrote:You'd think if there was a Daesh cell they'd have gone to Birmingham today, not blown up a building site in the arse-end of East London.

What happened in Birmingham?
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:39 am

Eol Sha wrote:
Vassenor wrote:You'd think if there was a Daesh cell they'd have gone to Birmingham today, not blown up a building site in the arse-end of East London.

What happened in Birmingham?


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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:41 am

It's always the terrorists. I know that ISIS stole my keys this morning just to piss me off.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:47 am

Kelinfort wrote:It's always the terrorists. I know that ISIS stole my keys this morning just to piss me off.

Ever wonder where your missing socks go? Taliban have them.

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Postby Galloism » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:48 am

Ifreann wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:It's always the terrorists. I know that ISIS stole my keys this morning just to piss me off.

Ever wonder where your missing socks go? Taliban have them.

I had a split in one of my tires I replaced this morning.

Clearly ISIS is subtly sabotaging my car.
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Postby Lipnitia » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:04 am

Vassenor wrote:You'd think if there was a Daesh cell they'd have gone to Birmingham today, not blown up a building site in the arse-end of East London.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:13 am

Galloism wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Ever wonder where your missing socks go? Taliban have them.

I had a split in one of my tires I replaced this morning.

Clearly ISIS is subtly sabotaging my car.

I thought today was Friday, it's not.

Clearly ISIS can control time and space.
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Postby Olerand » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:14 am

It seems like the explosion occurred after a canister caught fire as the rest of the building was burning. So, no, I wouldn't judge this to be an act of terror.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:26 am

Lipnitia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:You'd think if there was a Daesh cell they'd have gone to Birmingham today, not blown up a building site in the arse-end of East London.

northwest


Same sentiment, different cardinal point.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:30 am

Lipnitia wrote:
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Boilers do this. They explode when exposed to intense heat; because the pressure inside the boiler doesn't have anywhere to escape to. There are incidents of boilers blowing up to prove this.

Intense heat, where from, I say?

Fire?
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Postby Pychoticland » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:31 am

Lipnitia wrote:A “massive explosion” during a fire on a building site terrified workers in west London, in Colindale, the home of the RAF Museum. Police in Barnet have moved to reassure the public the blast was not terrorist-related (apparently). The noise was caused by a propane cylinder blowing up in the heat. Officers have warned a second canister could also explode.

Miklos Kiss, who works at the nearby RAF Museum, said: “If I wasn’t in an office with sturdy windows, I’m sure they would have shaken. “It was really loud – the kind of loud that you knew something bad had happened straight away, no mistaking it. “Me and my co-workers all rushed over to the windows. There was a swiftly rising pall of dark grey smoke that dissipated quickly, then we could hear sirens. “There was an announcement made by our security that it was a gas cylinder on a roof of a building in Lanacre Road nearby. “There is major construction going on all over Colindale as the area is being regenerated. “I think everyone was rattled and a bit jumpy. Maybe everyone is a little shaken at what might have been, given the current situation.” A Met spokesman told the Standard: “Police and London Fire Brigade are dealing with reports of an explosion at a building site in Colindale,” said a Met spokesman.

Police in Barnet have moved to reassure the public the blast was not terrorist-related. The noise was caused by a propane cylinder blowing up in the heat. Officers have warned a second canister could also explode. Miklos Kiss, who works at the nearby RAF Museum, said: “If I wasn’t in an office with sturdy windows, I’m sure they would have shaken. “It was really loud – the kind of loud that you knew something bad had happened straight away, no mistaking it. “Me and my co-workers all rushed over to the windows. There was a swiftly rising pall of dark grey smoke that dissipated quickly, then we could hear sirens.

“There was an announcement made by our security that it was a gas cylinder on a roof of a building in Lanacre Road nearby. “There is major construction going on all over Colindale as the area is being regenerated. “I think everyone was rattled and a bit jumpy. Maybe everyone is a little shaken at what might have been, given the current situation.” A Met spokesman told the Standard: “Police and London Fire Brigade are dealing with reports of an explosion at a building site in Colindale,” said a Met spokesman. “Police were informed at 11:55am on Thursday of reports of a gas cylinder exploding at Lanacre Ave, NW9. “There are no reports of any injuries and no evacuations at this time.” Four fire crews were on Thursday afternoon putting the fire out. London Fire Brigade said the blaze started in a tar boiler in a four-storey building.

Source: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/c ... 18676.html

What do you think? Attack cover-up or simple accident? I was nearby and also witnessed two loud thumps, and later observed police cars and ambulances along with some fire trucks at the site. I believe this was not a coincidence and the work of terrorism supporters.

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Postby Jersey Republic » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:34 am

Isis did say London was one of their targets, and I'm sure the open borders give a good chance to Isis to come up from Syria and other Isis territories
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:34 am

Greater Allidron wrote:Wouldn't surprise me. I think 5 ISIS guys tried to cross the border into the US the other day.


Five Syrians with Greek passports was what I read, I believe.

As far as I am aware, their was no confirmation they were IS. They could be, I suppose, until proven otherwise, but they could also be simple illegal immigrants. And asserting they were IS without evidence stigmatizes Syrians with presumption of guilt and is alarmist fear mongering.

So link from a credible source or concession, please.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:35 am

Vassenor wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:What happened in Birmingham?


Queen and Prince Philip formally re-opening New Street railway station after its refurbishment.

Well if the Queen went up in a ball of fire I'd question ole Prince Chuck, who would be after this incident king, instead of daesh.

Besides I just heard on the news that daesh wants to blow up parts of NYC and DC.
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