Why should I lose one class of pe in return for this?

[Unnamed island state]

I really hate it, instead of having us have an extra period of trigonometry they have us memorize dumb stuff that will never be useful.

Implying you're more likely to use cosines and secants than science.

Though I suppose you might want to become a mathematician or engineer or pilot or something else that involves heavy math, but for most people an extra period of trig would be absolute hell. Should there be an extra period of science? That's debatable, but ultimately no, if one period is enough for math or art, then one period should be enough for science. Also, cutting PE out is stupid, PE is an important class because for some people it's the only time they get to play any sport or sport-like activities, and get to be physically active. I like PE because I get to take my mind off of schoolwork for a period, and it helps me wake up.

Point is it sounds like you have to do extra work in a class you don't like and you fail to see that not everyone is like you. May not be what you're going for but that's how you come off. Either way the extra period is stupid.

If you're good at math you can easily switch into other good subjects like computer science, to philosophy. Everyone benefits from it.

[-Greater Britannia-]

And Chemistry and many other feilds of Science, Science and Math could be considered one in the same.

Not chemistry. I know for fact that physicists who competed in Soviet olympiad contests nearly failed their chemistry tests.

Have you ever taken a chemistry class? Theres alot of math involed at least at my school there is.

[Wallenburg]

What I don't understand is why your school isn't mandating more visual and performing arts credits. That shit multitasks the hell out of your brain.

[Wallenburg]

And Chemistry and many other feilds of Science, Science and Math could be considered one in the same.

Not chemistry. I know for fact that physicists who competed in Soviet olympiad contests nearly failed their chemistry tests.

[citation needed]

[Gim]

Not chemistry. I know for fact that physicists who competed in Soviet olympiad contests nearly failed their chemistry tests.

Have you ever taken a chemistry class? Theres alot of math involed at least at my school there is.

In terms of high school mathematics, there is not much math applied in Chemistry other than basic calculation methods.
I heard, as you start studying chemistry in universities, there is Calculus involved.

[Alyakia]

*takes interest in growing own food later in life*
*was never taught basic chemistry*
*has no idea what a ph is*

[New haven america]

Not chemistry. I know for fact that physicists who competed in Soviet olympiad contests nearly failed their chemistry tests.

Have you ever taken a chemistry class? Theres alot of math involed at least at my school there is.

I used to joke in semester 1 of last year that I did more math in chem. that I did in my actual math class.

Which I did, my math teacher wasn't very good.

[Unnamed island state]

Math is a tool for physics.

Maybe when it gets to physics, I would accept such an extension. But everything up to that is unmathematical memorization of facts.

Surprise, surprise: physics is a branch of science.

Surprise, surprise: I'm referring to all the crap that's pre physics.

The name for this thread is baity for a reason, I'm relatively pissed off. So I don't know about you, but where I am, in my school system, we are required to take an extra period of science in stead of gym in our block schedule(which I really don't miss either but that's not the point). What is the point of this? Really, do they think we'll produce more gdp if we know how to tell igneous rocks from sedimentary rocks? I really hate it, instead of having us have an extra period of trigonometry they have us memorize dumb stuff that will never be useful.

So I end with this question, is this extra attention given to high school science justified somehow? My view (as you can probably tell by now) is that there is no way to justify this. Not only is the way in which the subject taught, unprovoking of actual thought. But I read somewhere that industries related more towards physical sciences actually don't aid gdp growth in post industrial economies so much, service sector economies require lawyers and computer engineers, not marine biologists.

the entire point is to give you some general information about the world like how it was formed and stuff and see if you are interested or particularly good at any of them.

also the idea that everything should be based on GDP growth and that's it is completely ridiclous, sorry

Ok, why not have an extra period of history then? I'd advocate that and it isn't related to gdp.

Here in New York, if you're dumb and don't pay attention to world history outside of school, you'd only learn about "the troubles" because our Irish population got angry about St Patrick's Day not becoming a state holiday.

[Gim]

*takes interest in growing own food later in life*
*was never taught basic chemistry*
*has no idea what a ph is*

pH basically tells you acid is good for your health.

[Unnamed island state]

Not chemistry. I know for fact that physicists who competed in Soviet olympiad contests nearly failed their chemistry tests.

Have you ever taken a chemistry class? Theres alot of math involed at least at my school there is.

Nope, but I've heard from people that it's unsystematic just like everything I've done already.

[Unnamed island state]

*takes interest in growing own food later in life*
*was never taught basic chemistry*
*has no idea what a ph is*

Actually yes, in addition to biology we got to find out what ph is. It was really stimulating.

[Alyakia]

Surprise, surprise: physics is a branch of science.

Surprise, surprise: I'm referring to all the crap that's pre physics.

the entire point is to give you some general information about the world like how it was formed and stuff and see if you are interested or particularly good at any of them.

also the idea that everything should be based on GDP growth and that's it is completely ridiclous, sorry

Ok, why not have an extra period of history then? I'd advocate that and it isn't related to gdp.

Here in New York, if you're dumb and don't pay attention to world history outside of school, you'd only learn about "the troubles" because our Irish population got angry about St Patrick's Day not becoming a state holiday.

but why history?

[New haven america]

Implying you're more likely to use cosines and secants than science.

Though I suppose you might want to become a mathematician or engineer or pilot or something else that involves heavy math, but for most people an extra period of trig would be absolute hell. Should there be an extra period of science? That's debatable, but ultimately no, if one period is enough for math or art, then one period should be enough for science. Also, cutting PE out is stupid, PE is an important class because for some people it's the only time they get to play any sport or sport-like activities, and get to be physically active. I like PE because I get to take my mind off of schoolwork for a period, and it helps me wake up.

Point is it sounds like you have to do extra work in a class you don't like and you fail to see that not everyone is like you. May not be what you're going for but that's how you come off. Either way the extra period is stupid.

If you're good at math you can easily switch into other good subjects like computer science, to philosophy. Everyone benefits from it.

What are your thoughts on computer science?

[Unnamed island state]

Surprise, surprise: I'm referring to all the crap that's pre physics.

Ok, why not have an extra period of history then? I'd advocate that and it isn't related to gdp.

Here in New York, if you're dumb and don't pay attention to world history outside of school, you'd only learn about "the troubles" because our Irish population got angry about St Patrick's Day not becoming a state holiday.

but why history?

Why? Because I think part of living a fulfilling life is to do with understanding what the hell your society is all about? I dunno, there's many other reasons.

[Alyakia]

*takes interest in growing own food later in life*
*was never taught basic chemistry*
*has no idea what a ph is*

Actually yes, in addition to basic chemistry we got to find out what ph is. It was really stimulating.

if you are serious about it being stimulating then i think you're just mad your teacher is making you learn something you don't particular want to

but why history?

Because from history you actually learn about society.

to play devil's advocate, exactly how does memorizing a list of women some king fucked a few hundred years ago help me?

[NeuPolska]

If you're good at math you can easily switch into other good subjects like computer science, to philosophy. Everyone benefits from it.

Good at math =/= Good at Trig.

Trig is math but it's not as important as say, basic algebra. It's important to be able to work out various problems throughout your life (If I do x then how will that affect y, etc). But I'm not going to be laying by my front tire and trying to calculate how many radians my tires will spin if I go 10 kilometers. That's never going to happen. But I will potentially need to know how much I need of something, how much things will cost with added tax and other fees, how much to tip, how long it'll take to get somewhere...etc.

But you don't need an extra period to learn any of that. One period is just fine, it's worked for me as well as just about every person I've ever known. Never once did I hear anyone say we needed another period of math until now. If you need an extra period of something, you should reevaluate how good of a job the teacher's doing in actually teaching the material in a comprehensive way.

[-Greater Britannia-]

Anyways science is a good thing to learn about as it will help you later in life when you have to take college science cources and the like in order to get your degree also it teaches you about how things on this planet work which is pretty cool in my mind.

[Pundertale]

You do realize that having a click bait title will draw biased negative attention, right?
People will be angry already when they reply to your post, not the best thing I can assure you.

Anyways, while I do agree that taking out PE is a bad move, you need to toughen up, and if you REALLY have that big of a problem about it, talk to your administrators, your teachers, and tell them what you think. If enough people agree with you, and your uppers are agreeable, then you'll probably get PE back, or some form of it.

[Gim]

Anyways science is a good thing to learn about as it will help you later in life when you have to take college science cources and the like in order to get your degree also it teaches you about how things on this planet work which is pretty cool in my mind.

It brings you jobs with higher wages, really. Quite useful most of the time.

[Unnamed island state]

If you're good at math you can easily switch into other good subjects like computer science, to philosophy. Everyone benefits from it.

What are your thoughts on computer science?

None, because I'm not at that level yet. However someone in my family, with considerable knowledge on physics, was able to quickly learn computer science upon emigrating to the United States, and as a result had a steady well paying job in a high end company for many years(until he decided to pursue something else).

[NeuPolska]

You do realize that having a click bait title will draw biased negative attention, right?
People will be angry already when they reply to your post, not the best thing I can assure you.

Anyways, while I do agree that taking out PE is a bad move, you need to toughen up, and if you REALLY have that big of a problem about it, talk to your administrators, your teachers, and tell them what you think. If enough people agree with you, and your uppers are agreeable, then you'll probably get PE back, or some form of it.

This.

Also, make a petition, I'm sure you'll get considerable support from your peers and it'll get the administers to actually consider changing it back to what it was.

[MERIZoC]

gdp

……

GPA?

[Rejeistan]

Ugh.

This attitude expressed in the OP is really disheartening and shameful. Lack of public understanding of science and critical thinking is a major problem and the fact that science courses aren't mandatory all the way through high school (at least here in Ontario) is part of why.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

*takes interest in growing own food later in life*
*was never taught basic chemistry*
*has no idea what a ph is*

pH basically tells you acid is good for your health.

Groovy.

[Unnamed island state]

Because from history you actually learn about society.

to play devil's advocate, exactly how does memorizing a list of women some king fucked a few hundred years ago help me?

It helps you because you understand how society has progressed, where it is currently, basically you get to understand society, something which you'll most likely have to deal with more often later in life, or at least more than you'll have to deal with organelles and golgi apparatuses.