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Val Halla wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The answer to that is no. Even several members of the transgender community I know agree. And I am sure some will say that I am being unfair, and so be it, but no. As much of an advocate of trans rights as I am, no, I do not see any reason to give Jenner this recognition because she has done nothing to truly deserve this.

It's based on her actions, not her gender or sex. And her actions do not demonstrate anything of worth, to me, to have earned her this award. As simple as that.

I wish I got an award just for existing

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:

Val Halla wrote:I wish I got an award just for existing

Like I said before, if we are going to give this award to a woman that has helped the trans community, then let us give that award to someone like Gustava, from Translifeline. And like Gustava, there are many others who do make a difference.

New Grestin wrote:

Val Halla wrote:I wish I got an award just for existing

Participation Awards for Everyone. Everybody gets to be a special little snowflake.

Seriously, all she did was become a woman. It's really not that big of a deal. The only difference between Jenner and any other situation with a transgender individual is that she's famous. Anyone else and nobody would give two shits.

United Ameritania wrote:

Australian Republic wrote:So what if she is. That does not make her worthy of this friken' award

Brah, Brah, The hell did you Say ?.. She is a stunning and Brave Woman, anyone who says otherwise is Transphobic!

The Serbian Empire wrote:I can understand said reason. Caitlyn Jenner isn't even a good role model for the transgender community let alone worthy of this award.

Calimera II wrote:

The Serbian Empire wrote:I can understand said reason. Caitlyn Jenner isn't even a good role model for the transgender community let alone worthy of this award.

Who cares about whether a person is a rolemodel or not? It isn't like people who aren't rolemodels are lesser persons whatsoever.

Jersey Republic wrote:I see all these posts like, "you are more likely to get killed if you're transgender." Yeah, but would you rather die in an urban area where civilians can help you to a hospital a few miles away or in war torn Syria where you are pinned by gunfire and can't get to safety and risk a slow painful death by bleeding out.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I am not very satisfied with this. Mainly because I do not see what she did, of note or worthiness, to be named Woman of the Year.

Ashlak wrote:Yes, because before Caitlyn, the Woman of the Year award was something people seriously cared about.../s

Honestly, I don't care that much about Caitlyn, but it seems that some of the people shitting on her just want to engage in some good ol' fashioned socially acceptable transphobia.

Jersey Republic wrote:I see all these posts like, "you are more likely to get killed if you're transgender." Yeah, but would you rather die in an urban area where civilians can help you to a hospital a few miles away or in war torn Syria where you are pinned by gunfire and can't get to safety and risk a slow painful death by bleeding out.

"Eat yer fuckin' peas, sonny! There's chillin starvin' in Africa!"

The Serbian Empire wrote:

Napkiraly wrote:Others came before her, obviously, but she is the most well known person to transition in modern history which has resulted in more support for the transgender movement.

In theory, that may be true. However, she also has issues with calling herself lesbian despite attraction to women and identifying herself as one.

Val Halla wrote:

Ashlak wrote:Yes, because before Caitlyn, the Woman of the Year award was something people seriously cared about.../s

Honestly, I don't care that much about Caitlyn, but it seems that some of the people shitting on her just want to engage in some good ol' fashioned socially acceptable transphobia.



"Eat yer fuckin' peas, sonny! There's chillin starvin' in Africa!"

If she weren't transgender, she'd be transphobic.

Valloria wrote:Okay, just putting my Southern passive-aggressive opinion out here.

I dislike the fact that Caitlyn has received so much attention and, quite frankly, fawning by the media and the public. She's not that special and it's not that great.

This dead woman was apparently saving people during 9/11 - a truly heroic act. However, it is incorrect to hand back the award because Jenner received it. In fact, it's ridiculous to do so. Just because you disagree with the recipient of the same award you received doesn't mean you give the award back.

Ethel mermania wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I am not very satisfied with this. Mainly because I do not see what she did, of note or worthiness, to be named Woman of the Year.

Survive being a kardashian. If that doesn't deserve an award, I don't know what does.

Ethel mermania wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I am not very satisfied with this. Mainly because I do not see what she did, of note or worthiness, to be named Woman of the Year.

Survive being a kardashian. If that doesn't deserve an award, I don't know what does.

Jersey Republic wrote:I see all these posts like, "you are more likely to get killed if you're transgender." Yeah, but would you rather die in an urban area where civilians can help you to a hospital a few miles away or in war torn Syria where you are pinned by gunfire and can't get to safety and risk a slow painful death by bleeding out.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:

Ethel mermania wrote:Survive being a kardashian. If that doesn't deserve an award, I don't know what does.

Sure, but not Woman of the Year. More like, Surviving the Trashdasians Award.

I presented my contention already.

Val Halla wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Sure, but not Woman of the Year. More like, Surviving the Trashdasians Award.

I presented my contention already.

I think surviving the Kardashians should be an award given to the general public

Kar-Esseria wrote:Bruce Jenner is a disgrace. He's a murderer and a fake trans woman whose just in it for the fame. He's not even that attractive as a woman either.

But then again, who gives two shits what Glamour Magazine thinks?

Othelos wrote:

Jersey Republic wrote:I see all these posts like, "you are more likely to get killed if you're transgender." Yeah, but would you rather die in an urban area where civilians can help you to a hospital a few miles away or in war torn Syria where you are pinned by gunfire and can't get to safety and risk a slow painful death by bleeding out.

What's the point of this statement besides minimizing the struggles or discrimination that transgender people face?

Ashlak wrote:

Othelos wrote:What's the point of this statement besides minimizing the struggles or discrimination that transgender people face?

To engage in socially acceptable transphobia. I'm not the biggest fan of Caitlyn myself, but I suspect that a good chunk of the people complaining about her aren't doing it because she isn't a good advocate for trans people.

I also think that many people saying that she doesn't deserve the award probably haven't even heard of the award until now.

Ashlak wrote:

Othelos wrote:What's the point of this statement besides minimizing the struggles or discrimination that transgender people face?

To engage in socially acceptable transphobia. I'm not the biggest fan of Caitlyn myself, but I suspect that a good chunk of the people complaining about her aren't doing it because she isn't a good advocate for trans people.

I also think that many people saying that she doesn't deserve the award probably haven't even heard of the award until now.

Ashlak wrote:

Othelos wrote:What's the point of this statement besides minimizing the struggles or discrimination that transgender people face?

To engage in socially acceptable transphobia. I'm not the biggest fan of Caitlyn myself, but I suspect that a good chunk of the people complaining about her aren't doing it because she isn't a good advocate for trans people.

I also think that many people saying that she doesn't deserve the award probably haven't even heard of the award until now.