Woman of the Year becomes a bloody joke!

[South East Europe]

As a Transgender Woman, I rebuke Caitlyn Jenner for her vile and disturbing portrayal of a transgender woman. Verily, I also rebuke the utter atrocity that is corporate media. Look, I'm a capitalist but corporations should not be in charge of our news because their agendas change quite erratically.

[Napkiraly]

I am not a brah, first and secondly... She may be all of those things, but a good example to other transgender people she is not.

Others came before her, obviously, but she is the most well known person to transition in modern history which has resulted in more support for the transgender movement.

[United Ameritania]

I am not a brah, first and secondly... She may be all of those things, but a good example to other transgender people she is not.

Don't argue with her, she's pro trans-feminism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbevQH1B9ic


oooh here she comes

[Yedmnrutika Gavr]

caitlyn jenner has fought hard against bullying and transphobic people and gave many eloquent speeches which is nice but she mostly got the award because she was the most visible in the media. she was not necessarily the most deserving but this happens with many awards. look at barack obama and the nobel peace prize for example. there was plenty more deserving but he was also the most visible and the one with the most hype and thats what judges tend to go with. in the end the woman is dead so why make a big stink about it. if u think its cheap throw it in the garbage where it belongs but dont cheapen it for someone else that it might mean something too.

[Australian rePublic]

Just in case anyone was wondering why they gave Caitlyn Jenner the award. Which is honestly a rather good reason.

Caitlyn Jenner has helped shine a light on the problems faced by transgender youth and given voice to a community that is often unheard. Glamour’s Women of the Year Awards recognizes brave, bold women who in their individual ways have all made a significant difference in the world.

[The Serbian Empire]

I am not a brah, first and secondly... She may be all of those things, but a good example to other transgender people she is not.

Don't argue with her, she's pro trans-feminism

Thank you, but I can handle my own battles. I was a part of Operation Chanology back in the day.

[The Serbian Empire]

I am not a brah, first and secondly... She may be all of those things, but a good example to other transgender people she is not.

Others came before her, obviously, but she is the most well known person to transition in modern history which has resulted in more support for the transgender movement.

In theory, that may be true. However, she also has issues with calling herself lesbian despite attraction to women and identifying herself as one.

[Aurinsula]

What the fuck is your problem, brah? Caitlyn Jenner is a stunning, brave and beautiful woman. With the grace of a social butterfly flapping against the wind.

So what if she is. That does not make her worthy of this friken' award

Here's the sitch, homeslice. In terms of how personally difficult it was for her, Caitlyn Jenner has probably not strove, in the traditional sense, as many other people who might win such awards. But that isn't what matters, because life isn't fair and effort isn't meaningfully correlated with outcomes.

Even if her actions were ultimately done from a purely self-serving perspective - which I don't believe; I would ascribe her neither purely selfish nor purely selfless motives - the fact remains that what she's done is created a venue through which transgender and transsexual people can speak honestly about their lives, experiences, and identities. This is something that has created a huge, staggeringly massive positive impact for many thousands of people, and perhaps eventually millions of people. Even if, in her heart of hearts, she only did it to aggrandize herself - even if she actually despises the people she's helped - the fact remains that she's helped them. I think that's pretty deserving of an award.

Let me send the ball back to you. What sort of actions do you think entitle people to general-purpose awards like this?

[Val Halla]

Caitlyn Jenner is a bad person.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Caitlyn Jenner is a bad person.

She's many things, but bad? Why?

[Aurinsula]

Caitlyn Jenner is a bad person.

William Shockley was a bad person, but he invented the transistor. He got a Nobel Prize for the latter even though he was definitely the former. Them's the breaks.

[Val Halla]

Caitlyn Jenner is a bad person.

She's many things, but bad? Why?

Because she's a homophobe, she's ignorant, reinforces stereotypes and wants to represent a community she wouldn't give 2 shits about if she wasn't one.

[Nickel Empire]

A lot more better people deserve this award.

[The Black Forrest]

Stupid people should turn in their awards.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

She's many things, but bad? Why?

Because she's a homophobe, she's ignorant, reinforces stereotypes and wants to represent a community she wouldn't give 2 shits about if she wasn't one.

I was under the impression that she clarified her statements regarding same sex marriage already and said she is pro same sex marriage because it is the law of the land.

Anyway, if we're to give this award to a woman on the basis of her doing, actually doing, something for the transgender community, I would give the award to Greta Gustava Martela, co-founder of Translifeline. Now that is an organization that strives to save lives and makes the struggle of the transgender community visible.

Now Martela is a Woman of the Year.

[Fartsniffage]

Because she's a homophobe, she's ignorant, reinforces stereotypes and wants to represent a community she wouldn't give 2 shits about if she wasn't one.

I was under the impression that she clarified her statements regarding same sex marriage already and said she is pro same sex marriage because it is the law of the land.

I have no idea about the circumstances around this but someone saying that they're pro gay marriage because it's the law of the land makes me think of someone saying they're anti-rape because it's the law of the land.

[The Black Forrest]

I was under the impression that she clarified her statements regarding same sex marriage already and said she is pro same sex marriage because it is the law of the land.

I have no idea about the circumstances around this but someone saying that they're pro gay marriage because it's the law of the land makes me think of someone saying they're anti-rape because it's the law of the land.

So he is following the law and that's a problem......how?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I was under the impression that she clarified her statements regarding same sex marriage already and said she is pro same sex marriage because it is the law of the land.

I have no idea about the circumstances around this but someone saying that they're pro gay marriage because it's the law of the land makes me think of someone saying they're anti-rape because it's the law of the land.

Sounds like it.

Anyway, my main contention with Jenner is that I do not think she's done anything of actual worth to be named Woman of the Year. Rather the same way I felt when Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize on what looked like just being the first African-American president.

[Iwassoclose]

Its like giving Obama the noble peace prize.

[New Grestin]

I have no idea about the circumstances around this but someone saying that they're pro gay marriage because it's the law of the land makes me think of someone saying they're anti-rape because it's the law of the land.

Sounds like it.

Anyway, my main contention with Jenner is that I do not think she's done anything of actual worth to be named Woman of the Year. Rather the same way I felt when Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize on what looked like just being the first African-American president.

Is it just me, or is it kind of sad that we're handing out awards just for being something other than white and male in a position of power?

I mean, should being black and president really be notable enough for the Nobel prize? Should simply being transgender and milking it for all it's worth be enough to earn "Woman of the Year"?

[The House of Petain]

Sounds like it.

Anyway, my main contention with Jenner is that I do not think she's done anything of actual worth to be named Woman of the Year. Rather the same way I felt when Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize on what looked like just being the first African-American president.

Is it just me, or is it kind of sad that we're handing out awards just for being something other than white and male in a position of power?

I mean, should being black and president really be notable enough for the Nobel prize? Should simply being transgender and milking it for all it's worth be enough to earn "Woman of the Year"?

Yes.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Sounds like it.

Anyway, my main contention with Jenner is that I do not think she's done anything of actual worth to be named Woman of the Year. Rather the same way I felt when Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize on what looked like just being the first African-American president.

Is it just me, or is it kind of sad that we're handing out awards just for being something other than white and male in a position of power?

I mean, should being black and president really be notable enough for the Nobel prize? Should simply being transgender and milking it for all it's worth be enough to earn "Woman of the Year"?

The answer to that is no. Even several members of the transgender community I know agree. And I am sure some will say that I am being unfair, and so be it, but no. As much of an advocate of trans rights as I am, no, I do not see any reason to give Jenner this recognition because she has done nothing to truly deserve this.

It's based on her actions, not her gender or sex. And her actions do not demonstrate anything of worth, to me, to have earned her this award. As simple as that.

[Fartsniffage]

I have no idea about the circumstances around this but someone saying that they're pro gay marriage because it's the law of the land makes me think of someone saying they're anti-rape because it's the law of the land.

So he is following the law and that's a problem......how?

You don't see a problem with people only being moral because they'd go to prison otherwise?

[Val Halla]

Is it just me, or is it kind of sad that we're handing out awards just for being something other than white and male in a position of power?

I mean, should being black and president really be notable enough for the Nobel prize? Should simply being transgender and milking it for all it's worth be enough to earn "Woman of the Year"?

The answer to that is no. Even several members of the transgender community I know agree. And I am sure some will say that I am being unfair, and so be it, but no. As much of an advocate of trans rights as I am, no, I do not see any reason to give Jenner this recognition because she has done nothing to truly deserve this.

It's based on her actions, not her gender or sex. And her actions do not demonstrate anything of worth, to me, to have earned her this award. As simple as that.

I wish I got an award just for existing

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

The answer to that is no. Even several members of the transgender community I know agree. And I am sure some will say that I am being unfair, and so be it, but no. As much of an advocate of trans rights as I am, no, I do not see any reason to give Jenner this recognition because she has done nothing to truly deserve this.

It's based on her actions, not her gender or sex. And her actions do not demonstrate anything of worth, to me, to have earned her this award. As simple as that.

I wish I got an award just for existing

Like I said before, if we are going to give this award to a woman that has helped the trans community, then let us give that award to someone like Gustava, from Translifeline. And like Gustava, there are many others who do make a difference.