French Attacks Megathread

[West Aurelia]

My message can be described as far right or conservative to be sure, but I'm pointing out that restricting immigration isn't without precedent so far as the US and a lot of other nations are concerned, such as those in Europe. The GOP suggested that perhaps more of the Syrian Christians should be allowed in instead and Obama blew his stack figuratively speaking, when this has every potential of being a more palatable alternative to closing off immigration completely.

The whole "only let Christians" in goes so totally against all the freedom of religion horseshit the far right spouts that it's really just blatant bigoted pandering by GOP leaders. America vets refugees more thoroughly than pretty much anyone else and we've had very few incidents with them (we certainly vet them more carefully than the French- hell, we barely even let in any of the Pashtun translators who worked for the army)

The GOP does not care about religious freedom when we're talking about Muslims.

[Gauthier]

The whole "only let Christians" in goes so totally against all the freedom of religion horseshit the far right spouts that it's really just blatant bigoted pandering by GOP leaders. America vets refugees more thoroughly than pretty much anyone else and we've had very few incidents with them (we certainly vet them more carefully than the French- hell, we barely even let in any of the Pashtun translators who worked for the army)

The GOP does not care about religious freedom when we're talking about Muslims.

The candidates would love it if every single Muslim in the world was a jihadi to legitimize their hyperbole, however detrimental it may be in reality.

[Jochistan]

The whole "only let Christians" in goes so totally against all the freedom of religion horseshit the far right spouts that it's really just blatant bigoted pandering by GOP leaders. America vets refugees more thoroughly than pretty much anyone else and we've had very few incidents with them (we certainly vet them more carefully than the French- hell, we barely even let in any of the Pashtun translators who worked for the army)

The GOP does not care about religious freedom when we're talking about Muslims.

Ironic considering how most Muslims are conservative.

[Scanzian Freehold]

Okay, I have been trying really, really hard to give you the benefit of the doubt for the last several days, but your every post just leaves me more and more certain you have decided Absolute National Purity is the key to all the world's ills. Am I taking your outspokenness against Semites and Marxists wrong? Are you not calling for a Purge of all non-ethnic Europeans from Europe? Do you not realize how this all sounds? -Or rather, what other famous ultra-Nationalist movement you sound like?

My message can be described as far right or conservative to be sure, but I'm pointing out that restricting immigration isn't without precedent so far as the US and a lot of other nations are concerned, such as those in Europe. The GOP suggested that perhaps more of the Syrian Christians should be allowed in instead and Obama blew his stack figuratively speaking, when this has every potential of being a more palatable alternative to closing off immigration completely.

That wouldn't even be funny if it was meant as an extremely sarcastic jab at America's general hypocrisy.

I'm just going to ask, in all seriousness, and not to bash you or anything. I just want clarification:

Are you a Nazi?

[Jochistan]

My message can be described as far right or conservative to be sure, but I'm pointing out that restricting immigration isn't without precedent so far as the US and a lot of other nations are concerned, such as those in Europe. The GOP suggested that perhaps more of the Syrian Christians should be allowed in instead and Obama blew his stack figuratively speaking, when this has every potential of being a more palatable alternative to closing off immigration completely.

That wouldn't even be funny if it was meant as an extremely sarcastic jab at America's general hypocrisy.

I'm just going to ask, in all seriousness, and not to bash you or anything. I just want clarification:

Are you a Nazi?

pfft. are you kidding? I've seen way worse all over NSG. this is pretty far right. Paleoconservatism I'm guessing.

But he's nowhere near as bad as NatSocs. at least from what I've seen of him

[West Aurelia]

The GOP does not care about religious freedom when we're talking about Muslims.

The candidates would love it if every single Muslim in the world was a jihadi to legitimize their hyperbole, however detrimental it may be in reality.

This Democratic mayor seems to think so. How can any elected official get away with this in 2015?

[Mike from Progressive]

The candidates would love it if every single Muslim in the world was a jihadi to legitimize their hyperbole, however detrimental it may be in reality.

This Democratic mayor seems to think so. How can any elected official get away with this in 2015?

As a Democrat, that's embarassing

[Saiwania]

The whole "only let Christians" in goes so totally against all the freedom of religion horseshit the far right spouts that it's really just blatant bigoted pandering by GOP leaders. America vets refugees more thoroughly than pretty much anyone else and we've had very few incidents with them (we certainly vet them more carefully than the French- hell, we barely even let in any of the Pashtun translators who worked for the army)

The difference with the Syrian Christians to consider is that they were only 10% of Syria's population before the civil war and they were protected by the Assad regime relatively speaking, despite having to suffer under oppressive Muslim policies such as Jizya and legalized persecution under Islamic Sharia laws. What is a greater travesty is the fact that around 2,100 Muslims have been let into the US as opposed to only 53 Christians from Syria who clearly are more deserving of refugee status. Many of Syria's Muslims if anything, are joining ISIS or rebel groups who are against Assad which are just as bad. The Christians in Syria should have their history of being abused by a Muslim majority taken fully into account.

Here is a bad historical analogy by the liberal media that I'd like to address. Some pundits have invoked the plight of Jews from Hitler's Germany to make the absurd claim, "replace Syrian with Jewish and we're back to 1939."

This analogy falls completely apart and I'll explain why: Jews are an ethnic group while Syrian is a nationality. German Jews weren't terrorists, they were not attempting or carrying out attacks on several continents. No Jews in the early 20th century were randomly gunning down people in magazine offices or concert halls. There was no "Jewish State" taking over 10,000+ square miles of territory and slaughtering anyone who opposed them or their advance. There is nothing in common at all, that Jews have with Syrian refugees- none. The comparison doesn't hold up to scrutiny and is nonsensical, so why make it unless a liberal commentator is once again trying to find fault with western civilization or intends it as an attack on our nation and our nation's majority group and what they stand for?

[The Alma Mater]

The candidates would love it if every single Muslim in the world was a jihadi to legitimize their hyperbole, however detrimental it may be in reality.

This Democratic mayor seems to think so. How can any elected official get away with this in 2015?

By implying that all muslims in the terrorists hometown knew of the plans to attack France, yet did nothing to stop them. Thereby painting muslims as a hivemind that knows what all its parts are doing.

[West Aurelia]

The GOP seems to think that refugees are animals.

"There is an unmonitored Syrian refugee who is walking around freely, and no one knows where he is."

Seriously, what the fuck is this?

[The Conez Imperium]

Here is a bad historical analogy by the liberal media that I'd like to address. Some pundits have invoked the plight of Jews from Hitler's Germany to make the absurd claim, "replace Syrian with Jewish and we're back to 1939."

This analogy falls completely apart and I'll explain why: Jews are an ethnic group while Syrian is a nationality. German Jews weren't terrorists, they were not attempting or carrying out attacks on several continents. No Jews in the early 20th century were randomly gunning down people in magazine offices or concert halls. There was no "Jewish State" taking over 10,000+ square miles of territory and slaughtering anyone who opposed them or their advance. There is nothing in common at all, that Jews have with Syrian refugees- none.

I don't believe Islamists were gunning down people in concert halls in the early 20th century.

Also underlined. I would be careful with what you say, others may distort it.

[West Aurelia]

The difference with the Syrian Christians to consider is that they were only 10% of Syria's population before the civil war and they were protected by the Assad regime relatively speaking, despite having to suffer under oppressive Muslim policies such as Jizya and legalized persecution under Islamic Sharia laws. What is a greater travesty is the fact that around 2,100 Muslims have been let into the US as opposed to only 53 Christians from Syria who clearly are more deserving of refugee status. Many of Syria's Muslims if anything, are joining ISIS or rebel groups who are against Assad which are just as bad. The Christians in Syria should have their history of being abused by a Muslim majority taken fully into account.

Let's take in both groups.

This analogy falls completely apart and I'll explain why: Jews are an ethnic group while Syrian is a nationality.

Irrelevant. Many Syrians are facing death and destruction from the hands of the Assad regime and IS.

German Jews weren't terrorists, they were not attempting or carrying out attacks on several continents.

Neither are Syrian Muslim refugees. That's why they're refugees.

No Jews in the early 20th century were randomly gunning down people in magazine offices or concert halls.

Yeah but they were all French or Belgian citizens. Should we ban Frenchmen and Belgians from coming to America?

There was no "Jewish State" taking over 10,000+ square miles of territory and slaughtering anyone who opposed them or their advance.

We're taking in the victims of this slaughtering.

There is nothing in common at all, that Jews have with Syrian refugees- none.

I know something in common. They are both legitimate groups of refugees.

The comparison doesn't hold up to scrutiny and is nonsensical

Your argument doesn't hold up to scrutiny and is nonsensical.

[Saiwania]

Also underlined. I would be careful with what you say, others may distort it.

Ah, I see what you're talking about. Some on the pro-Palestinian side are going to stretch that to fit Israel into that narrative. This despite the fact Israel might've been crushed in 1948 but won their independence fair and square and have returned the Sinai to Egypt when Egypt agreed to a permanent truce but Syria which declined to do the same, lost the Golan from losing a war with Israel they chose to get into.

[The Alexanderians]

Republican governors =/= America as a whole.

He only said "in the US". He didn't say that America hates refugees.

He said there was anti-refugee sentiment more so in America than in France.

[Mike from Progressive]

He only said "in the US". He didn't say that America hates refugees.

He said there was anti-refugee sentiment more so in America than in France.

We are reacting, but its hard to say how the French people feel. I imagine there's a lot of animosity against the Muslims there regardless of what Herr Hollande says.

[Scanzian Freehold]

The candidates would love it if every single Muslim in the world was a jihadi to legitimize their hyperbole, however detrimental it may be in reality.

This Democratic mayor seems to think so. How can any elected official get away with this in 2015?

"Round'em Up Bowers" can eat a steaming bag of big ol' ...sausages. Japanese internment... wow, what a great precedent to cite for modern emulation. Unfortunately, that's Roanoke's white 'elite' attitude in a nutshell. Their two major exports are, (and I kid you not,) nursing assistants, and proud self-proclaimed "po wite trash."

[The Alexanderians]

He said there was anti-refugee sentiment more so in America than in France.

We are reacting, but its hard to say how the French people feel. I imagine there's a lot of animosity against the Muslims there regardless of what Herr Hollande says.

There was animosity before the attacks I can't imagine what after will bring.

[Scanzian Freehold]

The GOP seems to think that refugees are animals.

"There is an unmonitored Syrian refugee who is walking around freely, and no one knows where he is."

Seriously, what the fuck is this?

Well, that's not surprising since it's David Vitter. He himself apparently can't keep track of his 'Little Refugee,' either.

[Gauthier]

The candidates would love it if every single Muslim in the world was a jihadi to legitimize their hyperbole, however detrimental it may be in reality.

This Democratic mayor seems to think so. How can any elected official get away with this in 2015?

"Roosevelt had a sensible idea interning Japanese Americans."

Then again plenty of people would love the idea of an entire continent's worth of Muslims all hauled off to some barren desert camp.

[Saiwania]

So has anyone else here heard about the crowds in Turkey at a soccer match booing when there was a moment of silence for the Paris attacks, and some were shouting "Allahu Akbar" in solidarity with IS? I got some excellent analysis and coverage from conservative talk radio about this and unfortunately, not a lot of people are going to take this incident as a wake up call as they should.

[The Alexanderians]

So has anyone else here heard about the crowds in Turkey at a soccer match booing when there was a moment of silence for the Paris attacks some were shouting "Allahu Akbar" in solidarity with IS? I got some excellent analysis and coverage from conservative talk radio about this and unfortunately, not a lot of people are going to take this incident as a wake up call as they should.

Really that says more about Turkey than it does about Muslims. They should be careful considering France is supposed to be an ally. If shit went down Most of Europe would back France not Turkey. Though of course it would take a lot for the relations to degrade that much.

[Gauthier]

So has anyone else here heard about the crowds in Turkey at a soccer match booing when there was a moment of silence for the Paris attacks some were shouting "Allahu Akbar" in solidarity with IS? I got some excellent analysis and coverage from conservative talk radio about this and unfortunately, not a lot of people are going to take this incident as a wake up call as they should.

Really that says more about Turkey than it does about Muslims. They should be careful considering France is supposed to be an ally. If shit went down Most of Europe would back France not Turkey. Though of course it would take a lot for the relations to degrade that much.

Erdogan's Fanboys. How lovely.

[The Alexanderians]

Really that says more about Turkey than it does about Muslims. They should be careful considering France is supposed to be an ally. If shit went down Most of Europe would back France not Turkey. Though of course it would take a lot for the relations to degrade that much.

Erdogan's Fanboys. How lovely.

Who the guys in the stadium?

[Gauthier]

Erdogan's Fanboys. How lovely.

Who the guys in the stadium?

Yeah. Symptom of a fundie disease infecting a country that prided on a history of strict secularism.

[The Alexanderians]

Who the guys in the stadium?

Yeah. Symptom of a fundie disease infecting a country that prided on a history of strict secularism.

Isn't he one of the deniers too? Not that it's all that related to this.