French Attacks Megathread

[Ganos Lao]

So ISIS will be scooping up Baghdad at any moment now?

I was simply observing the similarities between the retreat/surrender of American trained troops in South Vietnam and Iraq after American forces left each respective state.

I figured as much. Just was being sarcastic for a chuckle. We should feel lucky that Iraq didn't collapse a la South Vietnam, though. If it did, though, I'd wager that's when Iran would move in to secure the Shiites.

The Revolutionary Guards vs ISIS would be pretty bloody stuff.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

I was simply observing the similarities between the retreat/surrender of American trained troops in South Vietnam and Iraq after American forces left each respective state.

I figured as much. Just was being sarcastic for a chuckle. We should feel lucky that Iraq didn't collapse a la South Vietnam, though. If it did, though, I'd wager that's when Iran would move in to secure the Shiites.

The Revolutionary Guards vs ISIS would be pretty bloody stuff.

Well Iraq very nearly followed down the path of South Vietnam, considering how close ISIS were able to penetrate the interior of Iraq crater close to Baghdad.

Awful shame that the Iraqi army just fell apart like a house of cards.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

I figured as much. Just was being sarcastic for a chuckle. We should feel lucky that Iraq didn't collapse a la South Vietnam, though. If it did, though, I'd wager that's when Iran would move in to secure the Shiites.

The Revolutionary Guards vs ISIS would be pretty bloody stuff.

Well Iraq very nearly followed down the path of South Vietnam, considering how close ISIS were able to penetrate the interior of Iraq crater close to Baghdad.

Awful shame that the Iraqi army just fell apart like a house of cards.

And Obama says Afghans are ready to fight on their own? Pff...

[Gauthier]

I figured as much. Just was being sarcastic for a chuckle. We should feel lucky that Iraq didn't collapse a la South Vietnam, though. If it did, though, I'd wager that's when Iran would move in to secure the Shiites.

The Revolutionary Guards vs ISIS would be pretty bloody stuff.

Well Iraq very nearly followed down the path of South Vietnam, considering how close ISIS were able to penetrate the interior of Iraq crater close to Baghdad.

Awful shame that the Iraqi army just fell apart like a house of cards.

Because the Sunni fighting core taking off and leaving the Shiite asskisser brass in the Iraqi army does make it pretty damn ineffective.

[Ganos Lao]

I figured as much. Just was being sarcastic for a chuckle. We should feel lucky that Iraq didn't collapse a la South Vietnam, though. If it did, though, I'd wager that's when Iran would move in to secure the Shiites.

The Revolutionary Guards vs ISIS would be pretty bloody stuff.

Well Iraq very nearly followed down the path of South Vietnam, considering how close ISIS were able to penetrate the interior of Iraq crater close to Baghdad.

Awful shame that the Iraqi army just fell apart like a house of cards.

If Iraq actually did follow down the path, the Rape of Baghdad would one of the most infamous events of the decade, if not the twenty first century.

To be followed, of course, by the Iranian invasion, etc.

As for the Iraqi Army, well, that was entirely preventable. No one said they had to end up like the Manchukuo puppet forces just hightailing it every time there was any actual combat.

[Ganos Lao]

Well Iraq very nearly followed down the path of South Vietnam, considering how close ISIS were able to penetrate the interior of Iraq crater close to Baghdad.

Awful shame that the Iraqi army just fell apart like a house of cards.

Because the Sunni fighting core taking off and leaving the Shiite asskisser brass in the Iraqi army does make it pretty damn ineffective.

Even moreso when you have the United States wiping the slate clean, purging the Iraqi military of much needed experience and manpower and driving both into the hands of the enemy.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

Well Iraq very nearly followed down the path of South Vietnam, considering how close ISIS were able to penetrate the interior of Iraq crater close to Baghdad.

Awful shame that the Iraqi army just fell apart like a house of cards.

And Obama says Afghans are ready to fight on their own? Pff...

Obama apparently seems to have forgotten how quick the Najibullah regime fell to the Mujahideen despite all the fancy Soviet equipment and training that the USSR could provide.

What he should have done was to continue peace negotiations with the Taliban and bring them back into the fold of Afghan society.

[Ganos Lao]

Well Iraq very nearly followed down the path of South Vietnam, considering how close ISIS were able to penetrate the interior of Iraq crater close to Baghdad.

Awful shame that the Iraqi army just fell apart like a house of cards.

And Obama says Afghans are ready to fight on their own? Pff...

They're defecting en masse to the Taliban, in fact. I posted about it some pages back or so.

[Ganos Lao]

What he should have done was to continue peace negotiations with the Taliban and bring them back into the fold of Afghan society.

What role would you think he ought to have them play in said society?

[The Greater Aryan Race]

Well Iraq very nearly followed down the path of South Vietnam, considering how close ISIS were able to penetrate the interior of Iraq crater close to Baghdad.

Awful shame that the Iraqi army just fell apart like a house of cards.

Because the Sunni fighting core taking off and leaving the Shiite asskisser brass in the Iraqi army does make it pretty damn ineffective.

Bravo to Maliki and his coons for wrecking the reconstituted Iraqi military and the United States for disbanding the old Army in 2003. Thanks Obama! /s

[Ganos Lao]

Because the Sunni fighting core taking off and leaving the Shiite asskisser brass in the Iraqi army does make it pretty damn ineffective.

Bravo to Maliki and his coons for wrecking the reconstituted Iraqi military and the United States for disbanding the old Army in 2003. Thanks Obama! /s

Blaming Obama for what Bush did in 2003?

Blame Obama for the blunders he himself did.

[Gauthier]

And Obama says Afghans are ready to fight on their own? Pff...

Obama apparently seems to have forgotten how quick the Najibullah regime fell to the Mujahideen despite all the fancy Soviet equipment and training that the USSR could provide.

What he should have done was to continue peace negotiations with the Taliban and bring them back into the fold of Afghan society.

And if he did, he'd get grief from the collective right wing over Legitimizing an oppressive theocratic terror group that executes women for sporting events.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

What he should have done was to continue peace negotiations with the Taliban and bring them back into the fold of Afghan society.

What role would you think he ought to have them play in said society?

A general amnesty to be granted to all Taliban members and the inclusion of senior Taliban officials into a coalition government, provided that the Taliban agree to the regular hosting of democratic elections in Afghanistan. Former Taliban commanders and soldiers should be integrated into the Afghan army and national police force, or at least provided with the necessary help to reintegrate back into civilian life.

Of course the Taliban would never agree to negotiations unless some of their demands are to be met, namely the implementation of Islamic law into Afghanistan and the removal of foreign troops from Afghanistan. Therefore, I propose that such contentious issues should be put to a national referendum to be decided by the whole Afghan people. If a majority want Sharia law to be put in place in Afghanistan then the global community should respect that and devote all their efforts to assisting in the economic reconstruction of Afghanistan, it also removes the rational for several Islamic militant groups fighting in Afghanistan, thereby facilitating the peace process.

[Ganos Lao]

Of course the Taliban would never agree to negotiations unless some of their demands are to be met, namely the implementation of Islamic law into Afghanistan and the removal of foreign troops from Afghanistan. Therefore, I propose that such contentious issues should be put to a national referendum to be decided by the whole Afghan people. If a majority want Sharia law to be put in place in Afghanistan then the global community should respect that and devote all their efforts to assisting in the economic reconstruction of Afghanistan, it also removes the rational for several Islamic militant groups fighting in Afghanistan, thereby facilitating the peace process.

Well, the West already props up one theocratic hellhole. Can't imagine why another would bother 'em all that much. I say that because, assuming the people are enabled to choose for themselves, it'll likely end up being just like it was before 9/11 happened and the West will just look once more like a bunch of incompetent jackasses.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

Obama apparently seems to have forgotten how quick the Najibullah regime fell to the Mujahideen despite all the fancy Soviet equipment and training that the USSR could provide.

What he should have done was to continue peace negotiations with the Taliban and bring them back into the fold of Afghan society.

And if he did, he'd get grief from the collective right wing over Legitimizing an oppressive theocratic terror group that executes women for sporting events.

If the end result is a possible permanent peace in Afghanistan and the removal of NATO troops from such a messy, costly conflict, I doubt the American people would give two hoots. If the American Right wants to get their pantyhoses in a twist still then fuck them.

[Kubra]

Well Iraq very nearly followed down the path of South Vietnam, considering how close ISIS were able to penetrate the interior of Iraq crater close to Baghdad.

Awful shame that the Iraqi army just fell apart like a house of cards.

Because the Sunni fighting core taking off and leaving the Shiite asskisser brass in the Iraqi army does make it pretty damn ineffective.

well hey iraqi shi'ites were pretty new to the idea of being on top and having to organize militarily, for obvious reasons advisors who would have been helpful to them could not have been brought in. I mean, look at Assad, they're able to last cuz their backers are cool with Iran. And, well, one of their backers is Iran. That gives them access to some real heavy hitters, folks who've already got the question of human terrain solved, as well as decades of experience in most of the conflicts in the region. The Iraqi Shi'ites got the Americans, a pretty useless partner on both counts.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

Of course the Taliban would never agree to negotiations unless some of their demands are to be met, namely the implementation of Islamic law into Afghanistan and the removal of foreign troops from Afghanistan. Therefore, I propose that such contentious issues should be put to a national referendum to be decided by the whole Afghan people. If a majority want Sharia law to be put in place in Afghanistan then the global community should respect that and devote all their efforts to assisting in the economic reconstruction of Afghanistan, it also removes the rational for several Islamic militant groups fighting in Afghanistan, thereby facilitating the peace process.

Well, the West already props up one theocratic hellhole. Can't imagine why another would bother 'em all that much. I say that because, assuming the people are enabled to choose for themselves, it'll likely end up being just like it was before 9/11 happened and the West will just look once more like a bunch of incompetent jackasses.

You do realize there are moderate senior Taliban officials who aren't exactly big fans of the wholesale theocratic experiment and who would prefer a somewhat more moderate Islamic theocracy. If Washington can court these people and place them in positions of importance over the more radical nut jobs then that would do wonders in easing the bad blood between the Taliban and the United States.

[Jochistan]

Well Iraq very nearly followed down the path of South Vietnam, considering how close ISIS were able to penetrate the interior of Iraq crater close to Baghdad.

Awful shame that the Iraqi army just fell apart like a house of cards.

Because the Sunni fighting core taking off and leaving the Shiite asskisser brass in the Iraqi army does make it pretty damn ineffective.

What do you mean by that? Compared with most of the Sunni fighters (besides the Naqshbandi Army) The Shi'ites are nowhere near as monstrously extreme and violently intolerant towards everyone who doesn't share their exact branch, sect, or religion.

[Ganos Lao]

Because the Sunni fighting core taking off and leaving the Shiite asskisser brass in the Iraqi army does make it pretty damn ineffective.

What do you mean by that? Compared with most of the Sunni fighters (besides some of the Naqshbandi Army) The Shi'ites are nowhere near as monstrously extreme and violently intolerant towards everyone who doesn't share their exact branch, sect, or religion.

What he meant is that the Iraqi Army lost a pretty significant amount of manpower due to the fact that the Sunnis were taking off (i.e. driven off) and thus the IA was left with an inept Shiite brass and little to muster against ISIS. Whatever they could muster ended up being little more than boys against men.

[Jochistan]

What do you mean by that? Compared with most of the Sunni fighters (besides some of the Naqshbandi Army) The Shi'ites are nowhere near as monstrously extreme and violently intolerant towards everyone who doesn't share their exact branch, sect, or religion.

What he meant is that the Iraqi Army lost a pretty significant amount of manpower due to the fact that the Sunnis were taking off (i.e. driven off) by the Shiite brass (thanks to al-Maliki).

Probably because that's what you get when you express the desire to kill every Shi'a and every other sect under the sun besides your own.

Same with Al Maliki and his militant Shi'a forces abusing the power they got from this shit.

[Ganos Lao]

What he meant is that the Iraqi Army lost a pretty significant amount of manpower due to the fact that the Sunnis were taking off (i.e. driven off) by the Shiite brass (thanks to al-Maliki).

Probably because that's what you get when you express the desire to kill every Shi'a and every other sect under the sun besides your own.

I take it you know the desires of every single Sunni citizen of Iraq?

[Baltenstein]

Religious sectarianism is a severe problem in Iraq. Under Saddam, Sunnis were privileged and Shiites were discriminated against. Under Maliki, it quickly became the other way around. That's where ISIS gained so many of its recruit from, and that's why a large chunk of the Sunni Iraqi soldiers didn't have the motivation to put up a proper fight against them.

[Jochistan]

Probably because that's what you get when you express the desire to kill every Shi'a and every other sect under the sun besides your own.

I take it you know the desires of every single Sunni citizen of Iraq?

No. But the Shi'a are no better there, really.

I'm talking about some of the military leaders and militants, mind you.

[Transoxthraxia]

Over 200 people were killed by car bombs recently in Lebanon, but we're not talking about that because white people died in France.

I'm fairly certain these attacks will be used by governments worldwide to infringe upon the rights of their citizens for the sake of "security", too.

ur lib opinions made me sad

[Jochistan]

Religious sectarianism is a severe problem in Iraq. Under Saddam, Sunnis were privileged and Shiites were discriminated against. Under Maliki, it quickly became the other way around. That's where ISIS gained so many of its recruit from, and that's why a large chunk of the Sunni Iraqi soldiers didn't have the motivation to put up a proper fight against them.

But many, many Sunni Factions oppose them in Iraq. And do fight against them. It's just that they hardly stand a chance...most of the time.