French Attacks Megathread

[Ragnarum]

Maybe, but then the gunmen would have to be using French military issue weaponry.

Hand grenades and high-explosives are hardly recognisable moments after they've been used.

The firearms definitely are. But I don't believe the gunmen would have gone to the extreme risk of robbing an armoury, they could have simply acquired the weapons cheaply and safely from across the sea from North Africa or from Eastern Europe.

[Valyrian Freeholds]

Three dead in Stade de France blast'
Posted at 23:23

Three people have died in a blast at the Stade de France, the president of the French Football Federation Noël Le Graët has said, quoted by L'Equipe.

A number of others were injured in the explosion at one of the entrances to the stadium, Le Graët said.

[Havenburgh]

This is exactly what I'm worried about attacks like this transforming Europe into another America.

To clarify, America hasn't banned the burqa or the construction of minarets. Europe already did. Before you bash America, might want to know what the fuck is going on in the world, bro.

No but America is clearly the biggest country against Muslims and the most militant too. And its fueled by far right politics. If Europe becomes more like America its a tragedy.

[Afrigidoloco]

This is exactly what I'm worried about attacks like this transforming Europe into another America.

To clarify, America hasn't banned the burqa or the construction of minarets. Europe already did. Before you bash America, might want to know what the fuck is going on in the world, bro.

I'm talking about Donald trump types and indiscriminately bombing countries and starting wars.
At least now Europe don't do that

[Olerand]

On sleeping pills, really.


But this would never fly in France. If the government declares martial law, the FN will sweep the elections next month.

What matters more, winning elections to stay in power or keeping your damn country safe and stopping more people from dying? I would say the latter

After the response, or well non-response really, but media-heavy marches, that followed Charlie Hebdo; I am confident this government cares more about the first option.

[Mike from Progressive]

It will. Because of the problems I outlined.
We'll have SJWs all over the news whining and victim blaming and holding blatant double standards representing the left wing and no-platforming leftists who disagree with their nonsense.
Fine.
You won't give us a platform, we'll fuck off to the right wing and join them instead. They'll certainly give us a platform to say that Leftist authoritarian racism and sexism is so extreme that fucking communists are joining the conservatives.

people are being massacred shut the fuck up about SJWs

Need to calm down. Hate to tell you people die horrible ways everyday.

[Kauthar]

By what are muslims this time offended?

don't know what the terrorists are angry about
don't know if the terrorists are muslims (but some signs do point to them being muslims)

"Some signs"
Yeah man. They're shouting allah ackbar so don't jump to conclusions it could be hindus or christians!!!

[Grave_n_idle]

I think it's too early to say if it's 'not very important'.

I consider the stats and perps more important currently, that's why it has smaller text than the others.

In the short term, I'd say the most important things are getting the situation under control, and trying to start some kind of recovery and response.

In the long term... well, it depends how it pans out. That 'unimportant' statement could end up being a precursor to war. Or maybe it will be forgotten by tomorrow. Too early to tell.

[Kelinfort]

...Because a. I never made that claim and b. Jumping to conclusions on the attackers identity is a bad thing.

True. The far-right in France is notorious for its use of suicide bombers.

Wait. Until. We. Know.

Quash the attack and then ask questions.

[Kraylandia]

By what are muslims this time offended?

Everything usually.

[Northern Freikur]

By what are muslims this time offended?

don't know what the terrorists are angry about
don't know if the terrorists are muslims (but some signs do point to them being muslims)

The pattern of attacks, as well as the type, remind me of 9/11 and other acts of terrorism. It is almost undeniable.

[Havenburgh]

Hand grenades and high-explosives are hardly recognisable moments after they've been used.

The firearms definitely are. But I don't believe the gunmen would have gone to the extreme risk of robbing an armoury, they could have simply acquired the weapons cheaply and safely from across the sea from North Africa or from Eastern Europe.

Agreed, weapons smuggling from the former Yugoslavia is increasingly common

[TotallyNotEvilLand]

Because the best thing to do with a disaster is use it to mindlessly support your political views and use it as political fuel.

Wonderful.

I mean... that's normally been the case though...

It's sickening. Disasters are nothing more than things to exploit in this day and age, it'd seem.

Not like they always haven't been, but realizing it hurts.

[Geilinor]

40 people dead in total. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203
We don't know who it is and it could be ISIS or whatever you want to speculate. It doesn't matter right now.

[Jochistan]

A more accurate translation would be :

"I'm sick and tired
to feel a stranger in my own country, to be called constantly racist and intolerant
to see my people and my culture disappear
to hear "not every "..." " at each attack, to not feel safe in my own country
to see Paris being plundered again and again"

Apologies, I had to use google translate for some of it.

You keep saying things about "killing Saracens" and "Deus Vult" and advocating death for muslims in response to this shit. Yeah. I'd say that's "intolerant" or at least just hateful. Just like what these Wahabi Sub humans do all the time. and are currently murdering over.

[Outer Sparta]

To clarify, America hasn't banned the burqa or the construction of minarets. Europe already did. Before you bash America, might want to know what the fuck is going on in the world, bro.

No but America is clearly the biggest country against Muslims and the most militant too. And its fueled by far right politics. If Europe becomes more like America its a tragedy.

I sudder to think what that might be.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

...Because a. I never made that claim and b. Jumping to conclusions on the attackers identity is a bad thing.

True. The far-right in France is notorious for its use of suicide bombers.

Might be how they get their explosive poll numbers.

[Farnhamia]

Three dead in Stade de France blast'
Posted at 23:23

Three people have died in a blast at the Stade de France, the president of the French Football Federation Noël Le Graët has said, quoted by L'Equipe.

A number of others were injured in the explosion at one of the entrances to the stadium, Le Graët said.

Can we lay off the giant text, please?

[Novus America]

Highly probable; but that was a one time occurrence. Most other weapons, for gangs and such, come from Eastern Europe.

Could be. Smuggling via sea, could also be.
Anyway, if not even the military ammo depots are safe, there's no much point if trying and preventing criminals to get military-grade weapons. Hence, they must be caught when they've got them but before they use them - which, again, isn't very easy to do.

Not many develope countries have attacks with military grade weaponry. You can stop it.

Even in the US with our higher than Western Europe violence it is not military grade stuff.

[Havenburgh]

don't know what the terrorists are angry about
don't know if the terrorists are muslims (but some signs do point to them being muslims)

The pattern of attacks, as well as the type, remind me of 9/11 and other acts of terrorism. It is almost undeniable.

No, this is much more coordinated, more thought out.

[Alyakia]

people are being massacred shut the fuck up about SJWs

Need to calm down. Hate to tell you people die horrible ways everyday.

odd, that's exactly what i used to post when americans died when i was an edgy leftist teenager. new horseshoe theory?

[Valyrian Freeholds]

Unconfirmed Reports of more Attacks on landmarks such as the Louvre and Le Pompidou

[Lipnitia]

Three dead in Stade de France blast'
Posted at 23:23

Three people have died in a blast at the Stade de France, the president of the French Football Federation Noël Le Graët has said, quoted by L'Equipe.

A number of others were injured in the explosion at one of the entrances to the stadium, Le Graët said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZSIbutV8w8
Caught on film, if not already taken down. Clearly heard 'Allah Akbar'

[The Central Shadow Nation]

Obama get on it ASAP.

[Greed and Death]

I can not speak for all Americans but I stand shoulder to shoulder with our French brothers and sisters. Lets give them all support we can. Let American troops in Germany and the UK be raised to a heightened readiness status to provide assistance if the French Request it.