French Attacks Megathread

[Apollinis]

See how blaming tens or hundreds of millions of people for the actions of a few is absolutely fucking stupid?

Well, if school shootings were such a massive problem that they would rip whole societies apart and plunge them into civil wars, you'd actually have a valid point.

How does the non-civil-war-causing nature of school shootings make blaming most/all white people for, you could say, "passively allowing school shootings to continue" any more stupid than blaming many/most Muslims for failing to prevent the actions of small terrorist cells?

[Othelos]

Me: "Hey, as a Catholic, you shouldn't bomb an abortion clinic. It's not right."
Them: "Ok!"
News: "Five dead after an abortion clinic was bombed today!"
Media: "Catholics ought to tell each other not to bomb an abortion clinic!"

While that sounds helpful on paper, distilling something as complex and perverted as fundamentalism and terrorism down to, "don't do it," won't make a difference.

The thing is, it's very difficult to justify bombing an abortion clinic as "It's what God wants!" when Jesus quite literally preaches nonviolence, tolerance, and forgiveness. They would instead justify it as, "It's bad, it's evil, it's wrong."

With Muslims, however, you can simply say, "It's what God has commanded us to do." You don't exactly have to look very hard in the Qur'an or do any weird bending or interpretations of the verses to come to this conclusion.

The first testament is full of acts of violence encouraged by God. The people who wrote it or were in it stated that it was what was commanded by God, and so they destroyed entire people groups. If I recall correctly, there was one instance where they didn't kill everything God commanded them to, so they were punished.

[Dakini]

lol

This just in: Calling women whores and murderers is treating them with respect.

What a glaring and forced misreading of what I said.

You glaringly misread what Nanatsu said. She said that Christians regularly harass women outside of abortion clinics, calling them whores. You claimed that Christians "treat the women going in with respect and who pray for and with them" then accused her of focusing on the phenomenon of abortion clinic bombings, without addressing the fact that Christians gather around abortion clincs every day to harass women, calling them whores and murderers.

So according to you, calling women whores and murderers and "praying for them" is respectful instead of outright insulting and condescending as fuck.

[North Calaveras]

Well, if school shootings were such a massive problem that they would rip whole societies apart and plunge them into civil wars, you'd actually have a valid point.

Terrorism isn't new nor specific to one group.

your right, it also happens to be mostly committed by muslims in todays world.

[Trollgaard]

Historically, no. But today? Yeah, its a special case.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

the muslim community could do wonders why not letting their fellow followers promptly detonate themselves in public places, that would be a great start.

Ah, yes, because Muslims have this superpower that lets them find and stop potential Muslim terrorists before they do anything. How European intelligence agencies failed to put this superpower to good use is beyond me.

And hey, it's not like there's an awful lot of Muslim police officers and soldiers fighting against ISIS right as we speak.

Liri, just how many times do I have to tell you: push the button in case of an emergency. I gave you the hivemind program that I found the other day for the Muslim Mecca Armageddon Protocol, where is it?

[Occupied Deutschland]

The thing is, it's very difficult to justify bombing an abortion clinic as "It's what God wants!" when Jesus quite literally preaches nonviolence, tolerance, and forgiveness. They would instead justify it as, "It's bad, it's evil, it's wrong."

With Muslims, however, you can simply say, "It's what God has commanded us to do." You don't exactly have to look very hard in the Qur'an or do any weird bending or interpretations of the verses to come to this conclusion.

If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

--Deuteronomy 13:6-10

The laws and custom-dictations of the Old Testament are literally outdated claptrap for Christians.
This is not to defend any claim you're arguing against, but Christianity's relationship to the Old Testament is tenuous, at best.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

They are the Borg, don't you know. A hivemind.

As mentioned earlier, if we blow up the Kaaba, they will shut down like the battle droids when their control station is destroyed.

As an art historian, I would like the Kaaba to be kept safe.

[Vashtanaraada]

They are the Borg, don't you know. A hivemind.

Who said that? or are you making up bullshit to cover yourself?

I'm still waiting for the claims of islamophobia, bigotry and " You just hate brown people"

you said the muslim community as a whole need to stop their members blowing places up, you're disgraceful
read my posts btw, i've defo called you racist

[Kelinfort]

Terrorism isn't new nor specific to one group.

your right, it also happens to be mostly committed by muslims in todays world.

In, what, the past 20 years?

Cause, I have some Irishmen, Africans, and Communists who would like a word with you.

[Baltenstein]

Well, if school shootings were such a massive problem that they would rip whole societies apart and plunge them into civil wars, you'd actually have a valid point.

Terrorism isn't new nor specific to one group.

The scale it has reached - up to commanding standing armies and conquering whole regions with millions of inhabitants - is striking though.

[Wallenburg]

Well, if school shootings were such a massive problem that they would rip whole societies apart and plunge them into civil wars, you'd actually have a valid point.

This guy has it right ^

Tell me, did 9/11 cause a civil war? Did the Charlie Hebdo shooting rip all of French society apart?

[Liriena]

They are the Borg, don't you know. A hivemind.

Who said that? or are you making up bullshit to cover yourself?

I'm still waiting for the claims of islamophobia, bigotry and " You just hate brown people"

You know, it could be said that it's rather telling when someone preemptively defends themselves against accusations of prejudice.

[Camelza]

Ah, yes, because Muslims have this superpower that lets them find and stop potential Muslim terrorists before they do anything. How European intelligence agencies failed to put this superpower to good use is beyond me.

And hey, it's not like there's an awful lot of Muslim police officers and soldiers fighting against ISIS right as we speak.

They are the Borg, don't you know. A hivemind.

They propably have a Queen Imam that controls all of them too.

[Galloism]

As mentioned earlier, if we blow up the Kaaba, they will shut down like the battle droids when their control station is destroyed.

As an art historian, I would like the Kaaba to be kept safe.

Obviously, we should use a computer virus to disrupt the hivemind.

[Vashtanaraada]

Terrorism isn't new nor specific to one group.

your right, it also happens to be mostly committed by muslims in todays world.

state-sponsored terrorism accounts for the most terrorism today, and the US is the biggest terrorist organisation in the world

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

The thing is, it's very difficult to justify bombing an abortion clinic as "It's what God wants!" when Jesus quite literally preaches nonviolence, tolerance, and forgiveness. They would instead justify it as, "It's bad, it's evil, it's wrong."

With Muslims, however, you can simply say, "It's what God has commanded us to do." You don't exactly have to look very hard in the Qur'an or do any weird bending or interpretations of the verses to come to this conclusion.

The first testament is full of acts of violence encouraged by God. The people who wrote it or were in it stated that it was what was commanded by God, and so they destroyed entire people groups. If I recall correctly, there was one instance where they didn't kill everything God commanded them to, so they were punished.

Yes, they didn't kill the Caanites if I recall, or the people who now call themselves "Gazans", I'm pretty sure the punishment is going on well into the 21st century in the form of missiles from Gaza.

[Kelinfort]

Terrorism isn't new nor specific to one group.

The scale it has reached - up to commanding standing armies and conquering whole regions with millions of inhabitants - is striking though.

While that involves aspects of terrorism, no, it's not solely terrorism. ISIL is driven by theocratic and fundamentalist teachings, not just terrorism.

[Baltenstein]

Well, if school shootings were such a massive problem that they would rip whole societies apart and plunge them into civil wars, you'd actually have a valid point.

How does the non-civil-war-causing nature of school shootings make blaming most/all white people for, you could say, "passively allowing school shootings to continue" any more stupid than blaming many/most Muslims for failing to prevent the actions of small terrorist cells?

I'm viewing the actions of said small terrorist cells in the context of Islamic extremism, to be honest. Whose scale is anything but small.

[Wallenburg]

--Deuteronomy 13:6-10

The laws and custom-dictations of the Old Testament are literally outdated claptrap for Christians.
This is not to defend any claim you're arguing against, but Christianity's relationship to the Old Testament is tenuous, at best.

Please try explaining that to the Christian fundies.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

They are the Borg, don't you know. A hivemind.

They propably have a Queen Imam that controls all of them too.

And she yells ''alalalalalalala'' every day, at 17:00 hours. For dinner.

As an art historian, I would like the Kaaba to be kept safe.

Obviously, we should use a computer virus to disrupt the hivemind.

Send them a Trojan disguised as porn.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

As an art historian, I would like the Kaaba to be kept safe.

Obviously, we should use a computer virus to disrupt the hivemind.

A computer virus?

Clearly if we are going for electronic means it should be a Distributed Denial of Service.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

your right, it also happens to be mostly committed by muslims in todays world.

state-sponsored terrorism accounts for the most terrorism today, and the US is the biggest terrorist organisation in the world

Like? Apart from Al Qaeda.

[North Calaveras]

your right, it also happens to be mostly committed by muslims in todays world.

state-sponsored terrorism accounts for the most terrorism today, and the US is the biggest terrorist organisation in the world

oh my god here we go...

[Baltenstein]

This guy has it right ^

Tell me, did 9/11 cause a civil war? Did the Charlie Hebdo shooting rip all of French society apart?

Well, thankfully not, because neither American nor French society are that broken.

The societies of several Muslim countries, on the other hand...