French Attacks Megathread

[Gauthier]

If you want to give ISIS what it wants and clamp the shit out of Muslims in France that's your call.

Last I checked they wanted to establish a caliphate, murder infidels and get some sweet infidel booty.

All of which they are doing.

I didn't know establishing a caliphate and murdering infidels meant having bare control over a patch between Iraq and Syria that they have to fight numerous other factions for every day. Also, those sweet infidel booties gave them AIDS which is slowly killing them and the one physician who pointed it out to them was executed for it.

Also, you must not grasp the link between how treating Muslims like sewage makes the propagandas of jihadi groups singing the West hates and wants to murder them sound more appealing.

[Californian Bear Republic]

If Bush re-introduced napalm when we started the War on Terror, we could've turned the Middle East into glass and those guys wouldn't attack, hell even a nuke. Regardless, I don't know why we are "praying" when we could just solve this mess at once. #StandWithParis

[Ostroeuropa]

Why would they?

They likely could because the US did (unless it's only okay when the US does it).
It remains to be seen if France wants to or doesn't want to do the same.

They have more of a basis to do so as well.

[Gauthier]

What did CNN do?

Exactly what they did in Mogadishu, except actually get people killed if the allegations are true.

[Trollgaard]

So you're advocating genocide against Muslims, are you?

While I do not share serbs opinion, what I would advocate might be considered a war crime.

As these folks are happy to kill the innocents of their enemy, I would respond with massive vietnam era airstrikes on ISIS governed territory, especially cities where isis leadership may be found.

I wouldn't be looking to degrade their ability to fight. I would be killing until their will to fight was stopped.

Muslims are not the enemy, but isis and their supporters are. As they are willing to kill our non combattents, and die in the effort, we need to demostate that we are much better at it, than they can ever hope to be.

They are looking for the great battle, maybe we should give it to them.

Damn right! Something we agree on.

[Kraylandia]

If Bush re-introduced napalm when we started the War on Terror, we could've turned the Middle East into glass and those guys wouldn't attack, hell even a nuke. Regardless, I don't know why we are "praying" when we could just solve this mess at once. #StandWithParis

And kill even more innocent civilians in the process. Fuck yeah Napalm!

[Napkiraly]

The US did after 9/11.

Against whom?

AQ.

As to your first question of "Why would they?", well it is an attack on France and invoking Article 5 would oblige all NATO members to contribute in some capacity to military actions against ISIS, or whomever is responsible for this heinous attack.

[Gauthier]

If Bush re-introduced napalm when we started the War on Terror, we could've turned the Middle East into glass and those guys wouldn't attack, hell even a nuke. Regardless, I don't know why we are "praying" when we could just solve this mess at once. #StandWithParis

Napalm, in the middle of mostly arid terrain? Good one.

[Camicon]

If Bush re-introduced napalm when we started the War on Terror, we could've turned the Middle East into glass and those guys wouldn't attack, hell even a nuke. Regardless, I don't know why we are "praying" when we could just solve this mess at once. #StandWithParis

Because indiscriminately murdering hundreds of millions of innocent people is entirely justified after a dozen fanatics from an entirely different country crash a plane.

Right.

[Ifreann]

What did CNN do?

Someone who escaped the Bacalan theatre mentioned on air that he still had friends hiding inside whom he was texting.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/13/europ ... index.html

[Gauthier]

If Bush re-introduced napalm when we started the War on Terror, we could've turned the Middle East into glass and those guys wouldn't attack, hell even a nuke. Regardless, I don't know why we are "praying" when we could just solve this mess at once. #StandWithParis

Because indiscriminately murdering hundreds of millions of innocent people is entirely justified after a dozen fanatics from an entirely different country crash a plane.

Right.

Because pissing off uninvolved civilians to the point they join the terrorists and try to make Invasion USA into a real movie is a great idea obviously.

[Trollgaard]

Last I checked they wanted to establish a caliphate, murder infidels and get some sweet infidel booty.

All of which they are doing.

I didn't know establishing a caliphate and murdering infidels meant having bare control over a patch between Iraq and Syria that they have to fight numerous other factions for every day. Also, those sweet infidel booties gave them AIDS which is slowly killing them and the one physician who pointed it out to them was executed for it.

Also, you must not grasp the link between how treating Muslims like sewage makes the propagandas of jihadi groups singing the West hates and wants to murder them sound more appealing.

Then the solution is obvious. No Muslims in Western countries. Deport the lot of them so they can live in Sharia filled paradise, in their own fucking countries.

[Korva]

If you want to give ISIS what it wants and clamp the shit out of Muslims in France that's your call.

Last I checked they wanted to establish a caliphate, murder infidels and get some sweet infidel booty.

All of which they are doing.

Obviously their true goal is to make you mildly uncomfortable around religious minorities, don't let the terrorists win!!!

[Herrebrugh]

Against whom?

AQ.

As to your first question of "Why would they?", well it is an attack on France and invoking Article 5 would oblige all NATO members to contribute in some capacity to military actions against ISIS, or whomever is responsible for this heinous attack.

But wouldn't that legitimise them? I mean, I thought article 5 could only be used against other states, ergo actually recognised ones.

[Mahdistan]

I didn't know establishing a caliphate and murdering infidels meant having bare control over a patch between Iraq and Syria that they have to fight numerous other factions for every day. Also, those sweet infidel booties gave them AIDS which is slowly killing them and the one physician who pointed it out to them was executed for it.

Also, you must not grasp the link between how treating Muslims like sewage makes the propagandas of jihadi groups singing the West hates and wants to murder them sound more appealing.

Then the solution is obvious. No Muslims in Western countries. Deport the lot of them so they can live in Sharia filled paradise, in their own fucking countries.

Deport? I was born in America, raised in America, and sure as hell am not leaving America without a legitimate reason.

[Valystria]

AQ.

As to your first question of "Why would they?", well it is an attack on France and invoking Article 5 would oblige all NATO members to contribute in some capacity to military actions against ISIS, or whomever is responsible for this heinous attack.

But wouldn't that legitimise them? I mean, I thought article 5 could only be used against other states, ergo actually recognised ones.

We can assume it applies to unrecognized state actors too such as the Islamic State.

[Senkaku]

If you want to give ISIS what it wants and clamp the shit out of Muslims in France that's your call.

Last I checked they wanted to establish a caliphate, murder infidels and get some sweet infidel booty.

All of which they are doing.

I think you're confusing ISIS with Muslims in general.


There's a difference. If you even can call ISIS's disgusting ideology Islam, that is.

[Kraylandia]

I didn't know establishing a caliphate and murdering infidels meant having bare control over a patch between Iraq and Syria that they have to fight numerous other factions for every day. Also, those sweet infidel booties gave them AIDS which is slowly killing them and the one physician who pointed it out to them was executed for it.

Also, you must not grasp the link between how treating Muslims like sewage makes the propagandas of jihadi groups singing the West hates and wants to murder them sound more appealing.

Then the solution is obvious. No Muslims in Western countries. Deport the lot of them so they can live in Sharia filled paradise, in their own fucking countries.

It's shit like that that got the thread locked in the first place. It's also worth noting that not every Muslim wants to go about enforcing Sharia. Jesus man, get a grip.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

They likely could because the US did (unless it's only okay when the US does it).
It remains to be seen if France wants to or doesn't want to do the same.

They have more of a basis to do so as well.

This came at a really inopportune time. Obama's a lame duck so he's not committing to anything, and it's not like we're going to suspend elections for this. Nothing stops the American political machine.

[The House of Petain]

I didn't know establishing a caliphate and murdering infidels meant having bare control over a patch between Iraq and Syria that they have to fight numerous other factions for every day. Also, those sweet infidel booties gave them AIDS which is slowly killing them and the one physician who pointed it out to them was executed for it.

Also, you must not grasp the link between how treating Muslims like sewage makes the propagandas of jihadi groups singing the West hates and wants to murder them sound more appealing.

Then the solution is obvious. No Muslims in Western countries. Deport the lot of them so they can live in Sharia filled paradise, in their own fucking countries.

That's bad, you're bad and you should feel bad.

[Skyviolia]

If Bush re-introduced napalm when we started the War on Terror, we could've turned the Middle East into glass and those guys wouldn't attack, hell even a nuke. Regardless, I don't know why we are "praying" when we could just solve this mess at once. #StandWithParis

Because indiscriminately murdering hundreds of millions of innocent people is entirely justified after a dozen fanatics from an entirely different country crash a plane.

Right.

I totally agree with you. Some people are just maniacal.

[Harkback Union]

Then the solution is obvious. No Muslims in Western countries. Deport the lot of them so they can live in Sharia filled paradise, in their own fucking countries.

Deport? I was born in America, raised in America, and sure as hell am not leaving America without a legitimate reason.

I'm afraid my friend, legitimate reason is rarely a needed to champion political goals.

[Senkaku]

I didn't know establishing a caliphate and murdering infidels meant having bare control over a patch between Iraq and Syria that they have to fight numerous other factions for every day. Also, those sweet infidel booties gave them AIDS which is slowly killing them and the one physician who pointed it out to them was executed for it.

Also, you must not grasp the link between how treating Muslims like sewage makes the propagandas of jihadi groups singing the West hates and wants to murder them sound more appealing.

Then the solution is obvious. No Muslims in Western countries. Deport the lot of them so they can live in Sharia filled paradise, in their own fucking countries.

Yes, because all Muslims view sharia as a paradise. Shall we also deport all the Jews to Israel and assume they'll create a hyper-theocratic state there?
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[Camicon]

AQ.

As to your first question of "Why would they?", well it is an attack on France and invoking Article 5 would oblige all NATO members to contribute in some capacity to military actions against ISIS, or whomever is responsible for this heinous attack.

But wouldn't that legitimise them? I mean, I thought article 5 could only be used against other states, ergo actually recognised ones.

They're a de facto state. Dancing around the issue does deny them certain rights and obligations expected of a state in the international community. Whether formally recognizing them as such would make it easier to defeat them isn't clear, though it probably wouldn't.

[Salus Maior]

Go find me a Christian that completely ignores the Old Testament, and I'll go find you a unicorn. That's a fair trade, yeah?

It's not about ignoring the Old Testament. It's simply not Law. Which should be rather obvious considering we don't sacrifice lambs at altars or stone people for adultery. The Old Testament is there mainly for the complete narrative of Christianity. After all, we did come from those who once practiced what it taught did we not?

And if that's your jam, fine. I listen to music. Some people talk to friends or family, some draw or write, or whatever. My point is that there is no one thing which only religion is capable of addressing, and I don't recall the last time someone went on a murderous rampage because of their musical tastes.

A bad comparison, one you really should be ashamed of. Music, however moving it can be, cannot be compared to something like religion or faith. A better comparison would be personal philosophy or political ideology, something that an individual is convicted of being truth. Either because of being raised in it or experiencing the world and coming to believe it. Which is something that can be corrupted and twisted by the wrong hands.