It's time for leftists to wake up before they destroy Europe

[Constantinopolis]

The concept of left and right is very vague in the non-Western world.

No it's not. On the contrary, in many parts of the non-Western world the concept of left and right is far stronger, to the extent that people from the two sides have their own semi-separate cultures and almost never talk to each other.

Communism has been more popular in the non-Western world than in the Western world since at least the 1960s-70s. And today, the socialist movement (broadly defined) is doing much better in the non-Western world than in the Western world. I am talking especially about Latin America, and to a lesser extent South Asia.

[Unnamed island state]

The concept of left and right is very vague in the non-Western world.

No it's not. On the contrary, in many parts of the non-Western world the concept of left and right is far stronger, to the extent that people from the two sides have their own semi-separate cultures and almost never talk to each other.

Communism has been more popular in the non-Western world than in the Western world since at least the 1960s-70s. And today, the socialist movement (broadly defined) is doing much better in the non-Western world than in the Western world. I am talking especially about Latin America, and to a lesser extent South Asia.

The only genuine Leftist movement in South America is in Venezuela. Besides them the entire pink tide is capitalist.

Socialism is doing better in the EU than in the developing world.

[Baltenstein]

The concept of left and right is very vague in the non-Western world.

No it's not. On the contrary, in many parts of the non-Western world the concept of left and right is far stronger, to the extent that people from the two sides have their own semi-separate cultures and almost never talk to each other.

Communism has been more popular in the non-Western world than in the Western world since at least the 1960s-70s. And today, the socialist movement (broadly defined) is doing much better in the non-Western world than in the Western world. I am talking especially about Latin America, and to a lesser extent South Asia.

I wouldn't necessarily exclude Latin America from the Western world. They're certainly more Western then, say, Belarus and Russia.

[Wallenburg]

No it's not. On the contrary, in many parts of the non-Western world the concept of left and right is far stronger, to the extent that people from the two sides have their own semi-separate cultures and almost never talk to each other.

Communism has been more popular in the non-Western world than in the Western world since at least the 1960s-70s. And today, the socialist movement (broadly defined) is doing much better in the non-Western world than in the Western world. I am talking especially about Latin America, and to a lesser extent South Asia.

The only genuine Leftist movement in South America is in Venezuela. Besides them the entire pink tide is capitalist.

Socialism is doing better in the EU than in the developing world.

Well, when the US has a history of deposing South American and Central American democratically elected socialists and replacing them with military juntas, you get that response.

[United Arabic Federation]

Addressed to the Europeans who care about the fate of Europe and stopping the inevitable:
Now is the time for action. How do you start action? Civil unrest. Light trashcan fires, fire off flare guns, anything you can do to cause unrest in the native population. After the population become restless, spread the word of the Good Fight. Show them the facts, the evidence, the proof of the migrant invasion and islamification of Europe. Inspire them and give them a reason to join the cause. After that, strike against the migrants in a way that will scare them into submission. Remind them that they are in Europe, not Africa or the Middle East.
Do not fear getting caught or getting in trouble. A true patriot will always fight for what's right no matter the cost. Overthrow the fear of negative ractions and do what is right. For Europe, and for the European people!

[Olerand]

Um, well other than the Islamists, though. And I am sure quite a few on the far-left are more than ambiguous on the subject.

As someone that's pretty fucking far-left, I've neither seen nor heard a political colleague of mine support any sort of religious fundamentalism; quite the opposite, actually.

And yet the Worker's League and New Anti-Capitalist Party have no qualms on standing on the side of the Islamists every time the mainstream parties attack them. Perhaps because, in their eyes, they are "oppressed", and like for Anglo-Saxon liberals, being a "marginalized" group makes it necessary to defend you.

The concept of left and right is very vague in the non-Western world.

No it's not. On the contrary, in many parts of the non-Western world the concept of left and right is far stronger, to the extent that people from the two sides have their own semi-separate cultures and almost never talk to each other.

Communism has been more popular in the non-Western world than in the Western world since at least the 1960s-70s. And today, the socialist movement (broadly defined) is doing much better in the non-Western world than in the Western world. I am talking especially about Latin America, and to a lesser extent South Asia.

Where? Outside of Latin America, which I consider a descendant of Western culture and thus similar to it -if not outright a part of it-; where is the concept of left and right "strong"? Certainly not in Africa, where politics itself is vague; nor in West Asia -where the left does not concretely exist- or in East Asia -where the left is either weak (S.Korea, Japan) or capitalist/corporatist (the communist countries).

[Olerand]

Addressed to the Europeans who care about the fate of Europe and stopping the inevitable:
Now is the time for action. How do you start action? Civil unrest. Light trashcan fires, fire off flare guns, anything you can do to cause unrest in the native population. After the population become restless, spread the word of the Good Fight. Show them the facts, the evidence, the proof of the migrant invasion and islamification of Europe. Inspire them and give them a reason to join the cause. After that, strike against the migrants in a way that will scare them into submission. Remind them that they are in Europe, not Africa or the Middle East.
Do not fear getting caught or getting in trouble. A true patriot will always fight for what's right no matter the cost. Overthrow the fear of negative ractions and do what is right. For Europe, and for the European people!

Uhm, no. The FN is already topping the polls in France; the Party for Freedom eclipses all its other competitors in the Netherlands; the Freedom Party does the same in Austria; the Sweden Democrats are a legitimate contender against the left and right; etc. Europe is moving right, and the people are voting. There should be no unrest.

[Wallenburg]

Addressed to the Europeans who care about the fate of Europe and stopping the inevitable:
Now is the time for action. How do you start action? Civil unrest. Light trashcan fires, fire off flare guns, anything you can do to cause unrest in the native population. After the population become restless, spread the word of the Good Fight. Show them the facts, the evidence, the proof of the migrant invasion and islamification of Europe. Inspire them and give them a reason to join the cause. After that, strike against the migrants in a way that will scare them into submission. Remind them that they are in Europe, not Africa or the Middle East.
Do not fear getting caught or getting in trouble. A true patriot will always fight for what's right no matter the cost. Overthrow the fear of negative ractions and do what is right. For Europe, and for the European people!

That's fucking ridiculous and only highlights the detachment of xenophobes from reality. You just admitted that the only way to demonstrate civil unrest due to the refugee crisis is for native Europeans to engage in violence against the refugees and each other, rather than the other way around, since refugees have no interest in violence.

Also, being violent and creating unrest would only make Europe like the places they are fleeing.

[Unnamed island state]

The only genuine Leftist movement in South America is in Venezuela. Besides them the entire pink tide is capitalist.

Socialism is doing better in the EU than in the developing world.

Well, when the US has a history of deposing South American and Central American democratically elected socialists and replacing them with military juntas, you get that response.

What's so wrong about that? I mean of course the US didn't always install the best people, but if it means that in the long term that the South American countries get to experience high rates of growth and good social policies, I'd say at least say they've economically benefited.

[New confederate ramenia]

Also, being violent and creating unrest would only make Europe like the places they are fleeing.

I think that's the point.

[New confederate ramenia]

Addressed to the Europeans who care about the fate of Europe and stopping the inevitable:
Now is the time for action. How do you start action? Civil unrest. Light trashcan fires, fire off flare guns, anything you can do to cause unrest in the native population. After the population become restless, spread the word of the Good Fight. Show them the facts, the evidence, the proof of the migrant invasion and islamification of Europe. Inspire them and give them a reason to join the cause. After that, strike against the migrants in a way that will scare them into submission. Remind them that they are in Europe, not Africa or the Middle East.
Do not fear getting caught or getting in trouble. A true patriot will always fight for what's right no matter the cost. Overthrow the fear of negative ractions and do what is right. For Europe, and for the European people!

Uhm, no. The FN is already topping the polls in France; the Party for Freedom eclipses all its other competitors in the Netherlands; the Freedom Party does the same in Austria; the Sweden Democrats are a legitimate contender against the left and right; etc. Europe is moving right, and the people are voting. There should be no unrest.

The commoner is waking up.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

As someone that's pretty fucking far-left, I've neither seen nor heard a political colleague of mine support any sort of religious fundamentalism; quite the opposite, actually.

And yet the Worker's League and New Anti-Capitalist Party have no qualms on standing on the side of the Islamists every time the mainstream parties attack them. Perhaps because, in their eyes, they are "oppressed", and like for Anglo-Saxon liberals, being a "marginalized" group makes it necessary to defend you.

Marginalized and oppressed groups are necessary to defend. That's kind of the left's whole thing: standing up for the little guy. The underdog's advocate.

[Wallenburg]

Well, when the US has a history of deposing South American and Central American democratically elected socialists and replacing them with military juntas, you get that response.

What's so wrong about that? I mean of course the US didn't always install the best people, but if it means that in the long term that the South American countries get to experience high rates of growth and good social policies, I'd say at least say they've economically benefited.

What's wrong with that? Censorship, tyranny, torture, and death, to begin with.

[Distruzio]

... how is leftism to blame for the immigration crisis?

[Ararat Mountain]

... how is leftism to blame for the immigration crisis?

They are the ones holding back the gov't from even having regulations! I mean come one, ~1,000,000 illegal immigrants in less than 2 years? And that is just Germany, they carry broken, incompatible, and dangerous ideologies; islam. When they bring it here, they are encouraged not to let it go! It is dangerous.

[Daburuetchi]

Well, when the US has a history of deposing South American and Central American democratically elected socialists and replacing them with military juntas, you get that response.

What's so wrong about that? I mean of course the US didn't always install the best people, but if it means that in the long term that the South American countries get to experience high rates of growth and good social policies, I'd say at least say they've economically benefited.

Do you really have to ask what's wrong with subverting the democratic process of a country and installing brutal foreign backed puppet states?

[Fartsniffage]

... how is leftism to blame for the immigration crisis?

They are the ones holding back the gov't from even having regulations! I mean come one, ~1,000,000 illegal immigrants in less than 2 years? And that is just Germany, they carry broken, incompatible, and dangerous ideologies; islam. When they bring it here, they are encouraged not to let it go! It is dangerous.

So's crossing the road, but you do that every day.

[Olerand]

Uhm, no. The FN is already topping the polls in France; the Party for Freedom eclipses all its other competitors in the Netherlands; the Freedom Party does the same in Austria; the Sweden Democrats are a legitimate contender against the left and right; etc. Europe is moving right, and the people are voting. There should be no unrest.

The commoner is waking up.

No, absolutely not. We invented the concept, and to us, the left is a set of values and beliefs. Not an NGO to defend the "marginalized", regardless of how heinous, or even anti-leftist, their views might be.

[Unnamed island state]

What's so wrong about that? I mean of course the US didn't always install the best people, but if it means that in the long term that the South American countries get to experience high rates of growth and good social policies, I'd say at least say they've economically benefited.

What's wrong with that? Censorship, tyranny, torture, and death, to begin with.

I was referring to the response to that. On the other hand while it wasn't right for the US to install those guys, if he wasn't so immoral I would have supported a US backed military dictator.

[Wallenburg]

... how is leftism to blame for the immigration crisis?

They are the ones holding back the gov't from even having regulations! I mean come one, ~1,000,000 illegal immigrants in less than 2 years? And that is just Germany, they carry broken, incompatible, and dangerous ideologies; islam. When they bring it here, they are encouraged not to let it go! It is dangerous.

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

The concept of left and right is very vague in the non-Western world.

No it's not. On the contrary, in many parts of the non-Western world the concept of left and right is far stronger, to the extent that people from the two sides have their own semi-separate cultures and almost never talk to each other.

Communism has been more popular in the non-Western world than in the Western world since at least the 1960s-70s. And today, the socialist movement (broadly defined) is doing much better in the non-Western world than in the Western world. I am talking especially about Latin America, and to a lesser extent South Asia.

Asia? I don't know where you're getting your information from but I can assure you that Asia is not the great hotbed of socialism that you believe it to be. In fact, socialist parties have never done well (save for maybe India's Congress Party) in the Asian region and rightly so, as most voters have opted to trust in the capitalist/corporatist model.

[Fartsniffage]

The commoner is waking up.

No, absolutely not. We invented the concept, and to us, the left is a set of values and beliefs. Not an NGO to defend the "marginalized", regardless of how heinous, or even anti-leftist, their views might be.

France invented the idea of left wing?

[Jochistan]

>OP is appealing to leftists
>His fanboys won't stop insulting all leftists

[Daburuetchi]

What's wrong with that? Censorship, tyranny, torture, and death, to begin with.

I was referring to the response to that. On the other hand while it wasn't right for the US to install those guys, if he wasn't so immoral I would have supported a US backed military dictator.

News flash foreign backed dictators are overwhelmingly immoral people.

[Unnamed island state]

What's so wrong about that? I mean of course the US didn't always install the best people, but if it means that in the long term that the South American countries get to experience high rates of growth and good social policies, I'd say at least say they've economically benefited.

Do you really have to ask what's wrong with subverting the democratic process of a country and installing brutal foreign backed puppet states?

There's something very wrong with backing brutal foreign puppet states. I'm just saying that they've economically benefited and that South America is well off with the leaders they have now.