I understand. I don't really align with any particular ideology considering the fact that I don't use buzzwords, and my views are so mixed.
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by Immoren » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:14 pm
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

by Novus America » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:16 pm
Arslaniya wrote:Gauthier wrote:
It's popularly conflated with Appeasement and Bending Over With Pants Down For The Moozlem Horde.
True. Many people confuse tolerant views for being things such as "anti-white" and "promoting" race mixing. Of course there are a few people who are anti-white and/or excited about mixing different groups together, but they are truly a minority.
For example, I remember seeing this Swedish girl on Twitter who said something along the lines of "Mixing will better us all. We welcome refugees in with open arms and open legs." And then a WN forum freaked out and reacted as if she represented the views of the majority of Swedes. Just like they act as if the views of some extremists represent all people in Muslim-majority countries, and their descendants in the west. Even if it did represent the views of the majority of Swedes, better that than the majority of Muslims believing in killing westerners!

by Novus America » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:17 pm

by Arslaniya » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:28 pm
Novus America wrote:Arslaniya wrote:True. Many people confuse tolerant views for being things such as "anti-white" and "promoting" race mixing. Of course there are a few people who are anti-white and/or excited about mixing different groups together, but they are truly a minority.
For example, I remember seeing this Swedish girl on Twitter who said something along the lines of "Mixing will better us all. We welcome refugees in with open arms and open legs." And then a WN forum freaked out and reacted as if she represented the views of the majority of Swedes. Just like they act as if the views of some extremists represent all people in Muslim-majority countries, and their descendants in the west. Even if it did represent the views of the majority of Swedes, better that than the majority of Muslims believing in killing westerners!
Well I get what you are saying about a one extremist not is representative.
However Syrians are white. The child of a Syrian and a German will be white.
And what is wrong with race mixing anyways? It does not mean the white race disappears. Although the idea of race is BS.
Mixed "race" marriages are very common in the US and most right wingers do not care. Just a few storefront idiots. The majority of Americans have no problem with "race" mixing. Only a tiny minority oppose it.


by Gauthier » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:32 pm
Arslaniya wrote:Gauthier wrote:
It's popularly conflated with Appeasement and Bending Over With Pants Down For The Moozlem Horde.
True. Many people confuse tolerant views for being things such as "anti-white" and "promoting" race mixing. Of course there are a few people who are anti-white and/or excited about mixing different groups together, but they are truly a minority.
For example, I remember seeing this Swedish girl on Twitter who said something along the lines of "Mixing will better us all. We welcome refugees in with open arms and open legs." And then a WN forum freaked out and reacted as if she represented the views of the majority of Swedes. Just like they act as if the views of some extremists represent all people in Muslim-majority countries, and their descendants in the west. Even if it did represent the views of the majority of Swedes, better that than the majority of Muslims believing in killing westerners!

by Braberland » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:36 pm
Jiakros wrote:As a Left-Wing Utopia, I think I will unleash the magical, mysterious, totally unknown power of BASIC LOGIC! *Gasps!*
Dr. Maurits de la Roseraie,
Delegate of the Republic of Braberland to the World Assembly
Afgevaardigde van de Republiek Braberland in de Wereldvergadering
The Republic of Braberland, presidential republic located in Africa
De Republiek Braberland, presidentiële republiek gelegen in Afrika

by Novus America » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:36 pm
Arslaniya wrote:Novus America wrote:
Well I get what you are saying about a one extremist not is representative.
However Syrians are white. The child of a Syrian and a German will be white.
And what is wrong with race mixing anyways? It does not mean the white race disappears. Although the idea of race is BS.
Mixed "race" marriages are very common in the US and most right wingers do not care. Just a few storefront idiots. The majority of Americans have no problem with "race" mixing. Only a tiny minority oppose it.
I don't think there's really a good way to draw the line on whiteness. The Assad family is lighter than most of Sicily, in my opinion. But then again, many Syrians look very far from Europeans. Whiteness is an odd concept, and it's completely relative. I agree that Syrians fall under the "Caucasoid" phenotype, but I don't believe they are considered "white" by traditional standards.
I agree that there is no issue with races and ethnicities mixing. I am a firm believer that you should be with who you love, and no one else for no other reason.

by Gauthier » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:37 pm
Novus America wrote:Though weirdly people have conflated religion and race.

by Thama » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:40 pm
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.50
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Official languages: Ostspeak, Llynduneg
Government: Federated Parliamentary Monarchy
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Head of State: Cedric Stargard
National Anthem: First March
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by Arslaniya » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:43 pm
Novus America wrote:Arslaniya wrote:I don't think there's really a good way to draw the line on whiteness. The Assad family is lighter than most of Sicily, in my opinion. But then again, many Syrians look very far from Europeans. Whiteness is an odd concept, and it's completely relative. I agree that Syrians fall under the "Caucasoid" phenotype, but I don't believe they are considered "white" by traditional standards.
I agree that there is no issue with races and ethnicities mixing. I am a firm believer that you should be with who you love, and no one else for no other reason.
Maybe they are not in Europe. But Steve Jobs was Arab, and everbody viewed him as white.
The issues with Syrians are about religion, not race. Though weirdly people have conflated religion and race.

by Novus America » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:43 pm

by Braberland » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:45 pm
Thama wrote:Islamophobic bullshit right here.
These refugees coming into Europe right now are mostly middle class people like doctors and businessmen from Syria and the general vicinity - an originally fairly left wing middle eastern area, and the occurrences where they fight and cause trouble are so rare it's no wonder the video uses fucking archive footage from like 4 or 5 riots shot at slightly different angles and presents it as 19 minutes of cross-continental war. These refugees are people escaping war and regardless how they feel about our laws and customs (they don't disagree much considering their beliefs only differ in religion and they do owe us their goddamn lives), they will and do actually respect them, considering we literally fucking saved their goddamn lives.
As someone who spends their days in Germany amongst hundreds of people from across the world, from places like Sudan, Pakistan, South Africa, Russia, Brazil, etc. let me tell you a thing: I have never met anyone who disagrees more with German customs and how Germany is ran than Germans themselves. The people who are destroying Europe are not the immigrants coming here to escape war and suffering at the hands of dictators and extremists, but the rightist xenophobic hypocrites who shout for help and threaten to call the police when they see a Roma man or a Black teenager in a hoodie walk in their general direction on the same street as them.
Dr. Maurits de la Roseraie,
Delegate of the Republic of Braberland to the World Assembly
Afgevaardigde van de Republiek Braberland in de Wereldvergadering
The Republic of Braberland, presidential republic located in Africa
De Republiek Braberland, presidentiële republiek gelegen in Afrika

by Roski » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:45 pm
The Tungsten Horde wrote:The Roman Empire was brought down because it was too nice to refugees.
You heard it here first, folks.

by Roski » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:47 pm
Braberland wrote:Thama wrote:Islamophobic bullshit right here.
These refugees coming into Europe right now are mostly middle class people like doctors and businessmen from Syria and the general vicinity - an originally fairly left wing middle eastern area, and the occurrences where they fight and cause trouble are so rare it's no wonder the video uses fucking archive footage from like 4 or 5 riots shot at slightly different angles and presents it as 19 minutes of cross-continental war. These refugees are people escaping war and regardless how they feel about our laws and customs (they don't disagree much considering their beliefs only differ in religion and they do owe us their goddamn lives), they will and do actually respect them, considering we literally fucking saved their goddamn lives.
As someone who spends their days in Germany amongst hundreds of people from across the world, from places like Sudan, Pakistan, South Africa, Russia, Brazil, etc. let me tell you a thing: I have never met anyone who disagrees more with German customs and how Germany is ran than Germans themselves. The people who are destroying Europe are not the immigrants coming here to escape war and suffering at the hands of dictators and extremists, but the rightist xenophobic hypocrites who shout for help and threaten to call the police when they see a Roma man or a Black teenager in a hoodie walk in their general direction on the same street as them.
I'd rather trust my life to a Russian engineer than a doctor from a third world country...

by Susria » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:49 pm
Thama wrote:Islamophobic bullshit right here.
These refugees coming into Europe right now are mostly middle class people like doctors and businessmen from Syria and the general vicinity - an originally fairly left wing middle eastern area, and the occurrences where they fight and cause trouble are so rare it's no wonder the video uses fucking archive footage from like 4 or 5 riots shot at slightly different angles and presents it as 19 minutes of cross-continental war. These refugees are people escaping war and regardless how they feel about our laws and customs (they don't disagree much considering their beliefs only differ in religion and they do owe us their goddamn lives), they will and do actually respect them, considering we literally fucking saved their goddamn lives.
As someone who spends their days in Germany amongst hundreds of people from across the world, from places like Sudan, Pakistan, South Africa, Russia, Brazil, etc. let me tell you a thing: I have never met anyone who disagrees more with German customs and how Germany is ran than Germans themselves. The people who are destroying Europe are not the immigrants coming here to escape war and suffering at the hands of dictators and extremists, but the rightist xenophobic hypocrites who shout for help and threaten to call the police when they see a Roma man or a Black teenager in a hoodie walk in their general direction on the same street as them.

by European Socialist Republic » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:52 pm
Roski wrote:The Tungsten Horde wrote:The Roman Empire was brought down because it was too nice to refugees.
You heard it here first, folks.
The Roman Empire was brought down because of incompetent leadership, military personnel losing respect for commanders, and essentially the earliest form of terrorism in history.
Not "refugees"

by Novus America » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:52 pm
Roski wrote:Braberland wrote:I'd rather trust my life to a Russian engineer than a doctor from a third world country...
Actually, I wouldn't mind being treated by a third world doctor. Many of them will come to the United States to learn how to practice medicine, and return to their homeland to try and make a difference.

by Vassenor » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:54 pm
Novus America wrote:Roski wrote:
Actually, I wouldn't mind being treated by a third world doctor. Many of them will come to the United States to learn how to practice medicine, and return to their homeland to try and make a difference.
Tons of doctors here are Indian and Nigerian. And they are not better or worse than any other doctors.

by Roski » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:54 pm
Novus America wrote:Roski wrote:
Actually, I wouldn't mind being treated by a third world doctor. Many of them will come to the United States to learn how to practice medicine, and return to their homeland to try and make a difference.
Tons of doctors here are Indian and Nigerian. And they are not better or worse than any other doctors.

by Ardavia » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:55 pm
Susria wrote:Also, don't you think it's detrimental to be taking doctors and businessmen from these areas? If we take them, then they will only get more and more horrible while the West only gets more and more diverse.

by European Socialist Republic » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:59 pm
Syrixia wrote:Aah! Mighteh OP sais y'all gotta repent 'caus y'all need Jesus!

by Tsrnagora » Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:00 pm
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