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Postby Arslaniya » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:10 pm

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Arslaniya wrote:Oh, please. What's so wrong with supporting equality, tolerance, respect, and peace?


Those are just buzzwords and not often representative of the "left" in practice. Not that the "right" is any better.

I understand. I don't really align with any particular ideology considering the fact that I don't use buzzwords, and my views are so mixed.

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Postby Immoren » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:14 pm

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Arslaniya wrote:Oh, please. What's so wrong with supporting equality, tolerance, respect, and peace?


Those are just buzzwords and not often representative of the "left" in practice. Not that the "right" is any better.


All the words are "buzzwords" these days.
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Postby Novus America » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:16 pm

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It's popularly conflated with Appeasement and Bending Over With Pants Down For The Moozlem Horde.

True. Many people confuse tolerant views for being things such as "anti-white" and "promoting" race mixing. Of course there are a few people who are anti-white and/or excited about mixing different groups together, but they are truly a minority.

For example, I remember seeing this Swedish girl on Twitter who said something along the lines of "Mixing will better us all. We welcome refugees in with open arms and open legs." And then a WN forum freaked out and reacted as if she represented the views of the majority of Swedes. Just like they act as if the views of some extremists represent all people in Muslim-majority countries, and their descendants in the west. Even if it did represent the views of the majority of Swedes, better that than the majority of Muslims believing in killing westerners!


Well I get what you are saying about a one extremist not is representative.

However Syrians are white. The child of a Syrian and a German will be white.

And what is wrong with race mixing anyways? It does not mean the white race disappears. Although the idea of race is BS.

Mixed "race" marriages are very common in the US and most right wingers do not care. Just a few storefront idiots. The majority of Americans have no problem with "race" mixing. Only a tiny minority oppose it.
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Postby Novus America » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:17 pm

Immoren wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Those are just buzzwords and not often representative of the "left" in practice. Not that the "right" is any better.


All the words are "buzzwords" these days.


Yes. Because our hypocrisy and ignorance makes our words meaningless.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Arslaniya » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:28 pm

Novus America wrote:
Arslaniya wrote:True. Many people confuse tolerant views for being things such as "anti-white" and "promoting" race mixing. Of course there are a few people who are anti-white and/or excited about mixing different groups together, but they are truly a minority.

For example, I remember seeing this Swedish girl on Twitter who said something along the lines of "Mixing will better us all. We welcome refugees in with open arms and open legs." And then a WN forum freaked out and reacted as if she represented the views of the majority of Swedes. Just like they act as if the views of some extremists represent all people in Muslim-majority countries, and their descendants in the west. Even if it did represent the views of the majority of Swedes, better that than the majority of Muslims believing in killing westerners!


Well I get what you are saying about a one extremist not is representative.

However Syrians are white. The child of a Syrian and a German will be white.

And what is wrong with race mixing anyways? It does not mean the white race disappears. Although the idea of race is BS.

Mixed "race" marriages are very common in the US and most right wingers do not care. Just a few storefront idiots. The majority of Americans have no problem with "race" mixing. Only a tiny minority oppose it.

I don't think there's really a good way to draw the line on whiteness. The Assad family is lighter than most of Sicily, in my opinion. But then again, many Syrians look very far from Europeans. Whiteness is an odd concept, and it's completely relative. I agree that Syrians fall under the "Caucasoid" phenotype, but I don't believe they are considered "white" by traditional standards.

I agree that there is no issue with races and ethnicities mixing. I am a firm believer that you should be with who you love, and no one else for no other reason. :)

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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:32 pm

Arslaniya wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
It's popularly conflated with Appeasement and Bending Over With Pants Down For The Moozlem Horde.

True. Many people confuse tolerant views for being things such as "anti-white" and "promoting" race mixing. Of course there are a few people who are anti-white and/or excited about mixing different groups together, but they are truly a minority.

For example, I remember seeing this Swedish girl on Twitter who said something along the lines of "Mixing will better us all. We welcome refugees in with open arms and open legs." And then a WN forum freaked out and reacted as if she represented the views of the majority of Swedes. Just like they act as if the views of some extremists represent all people in Muslim-majority countries, and their descendants in the west. Even if it did represent the views of the majority of Swedes, better that than the majority of Muslims believing in killing westerners!


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Postby Jiakros » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:34 pm

As a Left-Wing Utopia, I think I will unleash the magical, mysterious, totally unknown power of BASIC LOGIC! *Gasps!*

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Postby Braberland » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:36 pm

Jiakros wrote:As a Left-Wing Utopia, I think I will unleash the magical, mysterious, totally unknown power of BASIC LOGIC! *Gasps!*

I think it's better if you stick to killing sensible politicians like you normally do.
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Postby Novus America » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:36 pm

Arslaniya wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Well I get what you are saying about a one extremist not is representative.

However Syrians are white. The child of a Syrian and a German will be white.

And what is wrong with race mixing anyways? It does not mean the white race disappears. Although the idea of race is BS.

Mixed "race" marriages are very common in the US and most right wingers do not care. Just a few storefront idiots. The majority of Americans have no problem with "race" mixing. Only a tiny minority oppose it.

I don't think there's really a good way to draw the line on whiteness. The Assad family is lighter than most of Sicily, in my opinion. But then again, many Syrians look very far from Europeans. Whiteness is an odd concept, and it's completely relative. I agree that Syrians fall under the "Caucasoid" phenotype, but I don't believe they are considered "white" by traditional standards.

I agree that there is no issue with races and ethnicities mixing. I am a firm believer that you should be with who you love, and no one else for no other reason. :)


Maybe they are not in Europe. But Steve Jobs was Arab, and everbody viewed him as white.

The issues with Syrians are about religion, not race. Though weirdly people have conflated religion and race.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:37 pm

Novus America wrote:Though weirdly people have conflated religion and race.


Weirdly? It's a standard. Indian-Americans get murdered by assholes who see brown skin and immediately assume they're Muslim.
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Postby Thama » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:40 pm

Islamophobic bullshit right here.

These refugees coming into Europe right now are mostly middle class people like doctors and businessmen from Syria and the general vicinity - an originally fairly left wing middle eastern area, and the occurrences where they fight and cause trouble are so rare it's no wonder the video uses fucking archive footage from like 4 or 5 riots shot at slightly different angles and presents it as 19 minutes of cross-continental war. These refugees are people escaping war and regardless how they feel about our laws and customs (they don't disagree much considering their beliefs only differ in religion and they do owe us their goddamn lives), they will and do actually respect them, considering we literally fucking saved their goddamn lives.

As someone who spends their days in Germany amongst hundreds of people from across the world, from places like Sudan, Pakistan, South Africa, Russia, Brazil, etc. let me tell you a thing: I have never met anyone who disagrees more with German customs and how Germany is ran than Germans themselves. The people who are destroying Europe are not the immigrants coming here to escape war and suffering at the hands of dictators and extremists, but the rightist xenophobic hypocrites who shout for help and threaten to call the police when they see a Roma man or a Black teenager in a hoodie walk in their general direction on the same street as them.
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Postby Arslaniya » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:43 pm

Novus America wrote:
Arslaniya wrote:I don't think there's really a good way to draw the line on whiteness. The Assad family is lighter than most of Sicily, in my opinion. But then again, many Syrians look very far from Europeans. Whiteness is an odd concept, and it's completely relative. I agree that Syrians fall under the "Caucasoid" phenotype, but I don't believe they are considered "white" by traditional standards.

I agree that there is no issue with races and ethnicities mixing. I am a firm believer that you should be with who you love, and no one else for no other reason. :)


Maybe they are not in Europe. But Steve Jobs was Arab, and everbody viewed him as white.

The issues with Syrians are about religion, not race. Though weirdly people have conflated religion and race.

Like I said, it's a very relative term. Steve didn't even know he was half Syrian until later in life, and he had light skin so he just identified with being a regular white guy and was asked no questions.

It's all a social thing, really.

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Postby Novus America » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:43 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Novus America wrote:Though weirdly people have conflated religion and race.


Weirdly? It's a standard. Indian-Americans get murdered by assholes who see brown skin and immediately assume they're Muslim.


Well that only happened tiny number of times. It is not common.

And even something being common does not make any less stupid.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Braberland » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:45 pm

Thama wrote:Islamophobic bullshit right here.

These refugees coming into Europe right now are mostly middle class people like doctors and businessmen from Syria and the general vicinity - an originally fairly left wing middle eastern area, and the occurrences where they fight and cause trouble are so rare it's no wonder the video uses fucking archive footage from like 4 or 5 riots shot at slightly different angles and presents it as 19 minutes of cross-continental war. These refugees are people escaping war and regardless how they feel about our laws and customs (they don't disagree much considering their beliefs only differ in religion and they do owe us their goddamn lives), they will and do actually respect them, considering we literally fucking saved their goddamn lives.

As someone who spends their days in Germany amongst hundreds of people from across the world, from places like Sudan, Pakistan, South Africa, Russia, Brazil, etc. let me tell you a thing: I have never met anyone who disagrees more with German customs and how Germany is ran than Germans themselves. The people who are destroying Europe are not the immigrants coming here to escape war and suffering at the hands of dictators and extremists, but the rightist xenophobic hypocrites who shout for help and threaten to call the police when they see a Roma man or a Black teenager in a hoodie walk in their general direction on the same street as them.

I'd rather trust my life to a Russian engineer than a doctor from a third world country...
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Postby Roski » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:45 pm

The Tungsten Horde wrote:The Roman Empire was brought down because it was too nice to refugees.

You heard it here first, folks.


The Roman Empire was brought down because of incompetent leadership, military personnel losing respect for commanders, and essentially the earliest form of terrorism in history.

Not "refugees"
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Postby Roski » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:47 pm

Braberland wrote:
Thama wrote:Islamophobic bullshit right here.

These refugees coming into Europe right now are mostly middle class people like doctors and businessmen from Syria and the general vicinity - an originally fairly left wing middle eastern area, and the occurrences where they fight and cause trouble are so rare it's no wonder the video uses fucking archive footage from like 4 or 5 riots shot at slightly different angles and presents it as 19 minutes of cross-continental war. These refugees are people escaping war and regardless how they feel about our laws and customs (they don't disagree much considering their beliefs only differ in religion and they do owe us their goddamn lives), they will and do actually respect them, considering we literally fucking saved their goddamn lives.

As someone who spends their days in Germany amongst hundreds of people from across the world, from places like Sudan, Pakistan, South Africa, Russia, Brazil, etc. let me tell you a thing: I have never met anyone who disagrees more with German customs and how Germany is ran than Germans themselves. The people who are destroying Europe are not the immigrants coming here to escape war and suffering at the hands of dictators and extremists, but the rightist xenophobic hypocrites who shout for help and threaten to call the police when they see a Roma man or a Black teenager in a hoodie walk in their general direction on the same street as them.

I'd rather trust my life to a Russian engineer than a doctor from a third world country...


Actually, I wouldn't mind being treated by a third world doctor. Many of them will come to the United States to learn how to practice medicine, and return to their homeland to try and make a difference.
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Postby Susria » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:49 pm

Thama wrote:Islamophobic bullshit right here.

These refugees coming into Europe right now are mostly middle class people like doctors and businessmen from Syria and the general vicinity - an originally fairly left wing middle eastern area, and the occurrences where they fight and cause trouble are so rare it's no wonder the video uses fucking archive footage from like 4 or 5 riots shot at slightly different angles and presents it as 19 minutes of cross-continental war. These refugees are people escaping war and regardless how they feel about our laws and customs (they don't disagree much considering their beliefs only differ in religion and they do owe us their goddamn lives), they will and do actually respect them, considering we literally fucking saved their goddamn lives.

As someone who spends their days in Germany amongst hundreds of people from across the world, from places like Sudan, Pakistan, South Africa, Russia, Brazil, etc. let me tell you a thing: I have never met anyone who disagrees more with German customs and how Germany is ran than Germans themselves. The people who are destroying Europe are not the immigrants coming here to escape war and suffering at the hands of dictators and extremists, but the rightist xenophobic hypocrites who shout for help and threaten to call the police when they see a Roma man or a Black teenager in a hoodie walk in their general direction on the same street as them.


The vast majority of refugees are not Syrian, but rather North African members of the lower class who are running to Europe for perceived benefits -- at the expense of the natives, naturally!

Also, don't you think it's detrimental to be taking doctors and businessmen from these areas? If we take them, then they will only get more and more horrible while the West only gets more and more diverse.

And while you may think that you stand upon a bastion of beauty and tolerance, wouldn't you prefer to see the cultures of Europe continue without them being tampered with and changed so that they fit the needs of others?

A nation's commitment is to its own people, and when the sovereignty begins to change its people to alter its commitment, it's breaking its own social contract of history.

It is disgusting to think that a nation with such a proud heritage as Germany should be forced to accept refugees because "it's the right thing to do" instead of focusing on economic, understanding, and ethical realpolitik.
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:52 pm

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The Tungsten Horde wrote:The Roman Empire was brought down because it was too nice to refugees.

You heard it here first, folks.


The Roman Empire was brought down because of incompetent leadership, military personnel losing respect for commanders, and essentially the earliest form of terrorism in history.

Not "refugees"

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Postby Novus America » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:52 pm

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Braberland wrote:I'd rather trust my life to a Russian engineer than a doctor from a third world country...


Actually, I wouldn't mind being treated by a third world doctor. Many of them will come to the United States to learn how to practice medicine, and return to their homeland to try and make a difference.


Tons of doctors here are Indian and Nigerian. And they are not better or worse than any other doctors.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:54 pm

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Actually, I wouldn't mind being treated by a third world doctor. Many of them will come to the United States to learn how to practice medicine, and return to their homeland to try and make a difference.


Tons of doctors here are Indian and Nigerian. And they are not better or worse than any other doctors.


But they have dark skin so they're clearly evil.
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Actually, I wouldn't mind being treated by a third world doctor. Many of them will come to the United States to learn how to practice medicine, and return to their homeland to try and make a difference.


Tons of doctors here are Indian and Nigerian. And they are not better or worse than any other doctors.


The only real restriction they have in their countries are lack of materials to go around, and that's probably why some give them bad raps.
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Postby Ardavia » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:55 pm

Susria wrote:Also, don't you think it's detrimental to be taking doctors and businessmen from these areas? If we take them, then they will only get more and more horrible while the West only gets more and more diverse.


It's better that they get to Europe and get the chance to return later than they get killed in the Middle East, surely?
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Postby Syrixia » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:56 pm

Aah! Mighteh OP sais y'all gotta repent 'caus y'all need Jesus! :p
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:59 pm

Syrixia wrote:Aah! Mighteh OP sais y'all gotta repent 'caus y'all need Jesus! :p

I don't have time for Jesus, I'm too busy destroying your country. *twirls moustache*
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Postby Tsrnagora » Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:00 pm

I think we should be doing what we can to integrate these people into mainstream society, but we must also recognize our limits. We can only go so far, and we only have so much capacity for immigrants.
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