It's time for leftists to wake up before they destroy Europe

[Arkinesia]

Please demonstrate the difference in this case.

ultranationalism

noun
1.
extreme devotion to or advocacy of the interests of a nation, especially regardless of the effect on any other nations.

and

expansionism

noun
1.
a policy of expansion, as of territory or currency:

Whilst ultranationalism can imply expansionism, expansionism is the act of expanding your own nation's territory, financial gains etc.

I would then ask you to look at the way China is pursuing these land claims and pursuing “aid” in Africa and ask, how is this not ultranationalist by the definition you just gave?

[Maximus Naturalis]

and


Whilst ultranationalism can imply expansionism, expansionism is the act of expanding your own nation's territory, financial gains etc.

I would then ask you to look at the way China is pursuing these land claims and pursuing “aid” in Africa and ask, how is this not ultranationalist by the definition you just gave?

They are not implicitly exclusive of eachother, but the given description sounds more like expansionism. It's an either or.

[Kocror aquilifer]

Mandela never made a secret out of his anti-government tactics. And considering government terrorism against black people in South Africa, he really had no choice. The ANC tried dialogue for decades, the government told them to eff off and installed Apartheid.

Well there was also the gross corruption and HIV crisis of his government...

Mandela was a terrorist.

[Ifreann]

"Let's destroy everything about our political system" isn't exactly "pragmatic".

Pointing out flaws with Operation Kill 'Em All? You must be a collaborator.

[The Classic World Order]

The OP disgusts me, this is an example of how the human race can be fucked up. If xenophobs like yourself hadn't attacked Paris in the first place we wouldn't even have this thread. Rightists make war, Leftists make peace.

[Maximus Naturalis]

The OP disgusts me, this is an example of how the human race can be fucked up. If xenophobs like yourself hadn't attacked Paris in the first place we wouldn't even have this thread. Rightists make war, Leftists make peace.

Nice generalizations, can I have your sources?

[Novus America]

Well there was also the gross corruption and HIV crisis of his government...

Mandela was a terrorist.

Well he did do some good things. And some very bad things. He was neither solely angel nor devil. He was a bit of both.

[Wallenburg]

The OP disgusts me, this is an example of how the human race can be fucked up. If xenophobs like yourself hadn't attacked Paris in the first place we wouldn't even have this thread. Rightists make war, Leftists make peace.

Nice generalizations, can I have your sources?

Indeed, we leftists are just as capable of killing people as are rightists.

[Maximus Naturalis]

Mandela was a terrorist.

Well he did do some good things. And some very bad things. He was neither solely angel nor devil. He was a bit of both.

Just like all humans.

Conclusion: Mandela was human, sorry reptillian conspirators.

[Trumpostan]

Mandela was a terrorist.

A freedom fighter you mean. The government was terrorist.

One side was seeking rights, the other side was seeking to deny rights.

[Novus America]

Well he did do some good things. And some very bad things. He was neither solely angel nor devil. He was a bit of both.

Just like all humans.

Conclusion: Mandela was human, sorry reptillian conspirators.

True. But not everyone is equally good and bad. Some are mostly good. Some mostly evil. Some like Mandela very much in between.

[Hladgos]

I'm still confused as to how leftists are destroying Europe in their sleep.

[Novus America]

Mandela was a terrorist.

A freedom fighter you mean. The government was terrorist.

One side was seeking rights, the other side was seeking to deny rights.

Mandela's government was not as bad, but it was still bad.
And he was both.

Freedom is a cause. Terror is a tactic.

Although cronyism and corruption are not real freedom.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Mandela was a terrorist.

A freedom fighter you mean. The government was terrorist.

One side was seeking rights, the other side was seeking to deny rights.

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

[Aarnonia]

A freedom fighter you mean. The government was terrorist.

One side was seeking rights, the other side was seeking to deny rights.

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

Well, terrorists never win, because when they do they are freedom fighters. Not that I think Mandela could be called a terrorist, just saying.

[Kauthar]

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

Well, terrorists never win, because when they do they are freedom fighters. Not that I think Mandela could be called a terrorist, just saying.

If ISIS won I don’t think anyone would call them freedom fighters except muslims.

[Gauthier]

Well, terrorists never win, because when they do they are freedom fighters. Not that I think Mandela could be called a terrorist, just saying.

If ISIS won I don’t think anyone would call them freedom fighters except muslims.

Because even the Shiite Muslims that the Daeshbags are slaughtering and/or raping would call them Freedom Fighters.

[Imperializt Russia]

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

Well, terrorists never win, because when they do they are freedom fighters. Not that I think Mandela could be called a terrorist, just saying.

Freedom fighters are relative. Freedom fighters are terrorists backed by one faction. Therefore seen as terrorists by the opposing faction.

[Arslaniya]

Oh, please. What's so wrong with supporting equality, tolerance, respect, and peace?

[Galloism]

Oh, please. What's so wrong with supporting equality, tolerance, respect, and peace?

That way leads to COMMUNISM!

[Gauthier]

Oh, please. What's so wrong with supporting equality, tolerance, respect, and peace?

It's popularly conflated with Appeasement and Bending Over With Pants Down For The Moozlem Horde.

[Camelza]

Oh, please. What's so wrong with supporting equality, tolerance, respect, and peace?

That way leads to COMMUNISM!

INITIATING DIRECTIVE 7395: DESTROY ALL COMMUNISTS!

[Novus America]

Well, terrorists never win, because when they do they are freedom fighters. Not that I think Mandela could be called a terrorist, just saying.

Freedom fighters are relative. Freedom fighters are terrorists backed by one faction. Therefore seen as terrorists by the opposing faction.

Not exactly. The terms are often used interchangeably but that is incorrect.

Again "freedom" may be somewhat subjective but it is a cause. Terrorism is a tactic.

Some "freedom fighters" use it. Others do not. And ISIS does not claim to fight for freedom but they use terrorism.

Again "freedom" is an end, terror a means. ISIS uses terrorism as a means. But there end is not freedom.

[Novus America]

Oh, please. What's so wrong with supporting equality, tolerance, respect, and peace?

Those are just buzzwords and not often representative of the "left" in practice. Not that the "right" is any better.

[Arslaniya]

Oh, please. What's so wrong with supporting equality, tolerance, respect, and peace?

It's popularly conflated with Appeasement and Bending Over With Pants Down For The Moozlem Horde.

True. Many people confuse tolerant views for being things such as "anti-white" and "promoting" race mixing. Of course there are a few people who are anti-white and/or excited about mixing different groups together, but they are truly a minority.

For example, I remember seeing this Swedish girl on Twitter who said something along the lines of "Mixing will better us all. We welcome refugees in with open arms and open legs." And then a WN forum freaked out and reacted as if she represented the views of the majority of Swedes. Just like they act as if the views of some extremists represent all people in Muslim-majority countries, and their descendants in the west. Even if it did represent the views of the majority of Swedes, better that than the majority of Muslims believing in killing westerners!