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Postby Novus America » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:50 am

Gauthier wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You should not mock a people with the ability and the technology to cause an Earth-Shattering Kaboom.


But unlike Black earthlings, Martians don't have to worry about the police.


Though Marvin is in fact a violent criminal who could be legitimately shot at. In fact Duck Dodgers who does appear to be a police officer of some kind has shot at him numerous times.

I am not saying that Marvin is representative of most Martians however. Every group has a few bad apples and violent criminals.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:52 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
But unlike Black earthlings, Martians don't have to worry about the police.

Sure I read a Marvin the Martian story where Marvin's space ship got booted by the NYPD, but he did get the key to the city so...

Marvin is quite clearly black.
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Postby Baltenstein » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:32 am

Novus America wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
But unlike Black earthlings, Martians don't have to worry about the police.


Though Marvin is in fact a violent criminal who could be legitimately shot at. In fact Duck Dodgers who does appear to be a police officer of some kind has shot at him numerous times.

I am not saying that Marvin is representative of most Martians however. Every group has a few bad apples and violent criminals.


Unfortunately, most Martians are worse than Marvin, what with their species waging a war of galactic aggression and all.

Their queen is hot though.

Even so, it's not over a year, like Germany has done. I mean, at this point, it's basically “NO U.” Not really selling me on why Germany's policy is good. But again, American culture is more integrative, and thus the hold-up, while stupid and xenophobic, isn't such an impediment as it is in Germany.


Currently, the official waiting period for asylum seekers before being allowed to work is three months, less than in the US.

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Postby British Prussia » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:42 pm

Ifreann wrote:
British Prussia wrote:Anti-semitisim is everywhere. Even in Asia and the Pacific, including places like New Zealand and Australia.

Well Australia and New Zealand would have gotten it from Britain. But why would there be anti-semitism anywhere else in Asia or the Pacific? I mean, it doesn't really make any sense for anyone to be anti-semitic, but there are Jews in Europe and the Middle East and the US. Asia probably just has a few Israeli diplomats and various tourists. You'd be as well being racist against Martians.

Well, the thing is, Asia in general is pretty racist themselves to begin with, couple that with Western influences, and there you have it. But it's not lynch mob type racism, it's more that you're treated differently in certain circumstances and looked down upon.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:45 pm

British Prussia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Well Australia and New Zealand would have gotten it from Britain. But why would there be anti-semitism anywhere else in Asia or the Pacific? I mean, it doesn't really make any sense for anyone to be anti-semitic, but there are Jews in Europe and the Middle East and the US. Asia probably just has a few Israeli diplomats and various tourists. You'd be as well being racist against Martians.

Well, the thing is, Asia in general is pretty racist themselves to begin with, couple that with Western influences, and there you have it. But it's not lynch mob type racism, it's more that you're treated differently in certain circumstances and looked down upon.


There's also the fact some Asian countries have Muslim populations, and that's probably what he was referring to.

Lots of white people and Orcs in New Zealand, so I guess that makes sense. Ironically, I hear Uruk-hai give orcs a lot of trouble even though they're technically orcs.

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Postby Genivaria » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:59 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
British Prussia wrote:Well, the thing is, Asia in general is pretty racist themselves to begin with, couple that with Western influences, and there you have it. But it's not lynch mob type racism, it's more that you're treated differently in certain circumstances and looked down upon.


There's also the fact some Asian countries have Muslim populations, and that's probably what he was referring to.

Lots of white people and Orcs in New Zealand, so I guess that makes sense. Ironically, I hear Uruk-hai give orcs a lot of trouble even though they're technically orcs.

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Postby Baltenstein » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:02 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
There's also the fact some Asian countries have Muslim populations, and that's probably what he was referring to.

Lots of white people and Orcs in New Zealand, so I guess that makes sense. Ironically, I hear Uruk-hai give orcs a lot of trouble even though they're technically orcs.

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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:05 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
There's also the fact some Asian countries have Muslim populations, and that's probably what he was referring to.

Lots of white people and Orcs in New Zealand, so I guess that makes sense. Ironically, I hear Uruk-hai give orcs a lot of trouble even though they're technically orcs.

"I don't take orders from Orc maggots!"


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Postby British Prussia » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:36 am

Well, when things get really out of control, we just call HM since the ring is part of her regalia, and she sorts everything out.
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Postby Scanzian Freehold » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:40 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Genivaria wrote:"I don't take orders from Orc maggots!"


OY GEVALT. THIS SARUMAN GOY IS BUSTING MY CHUTZPAH.


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Postby Greater Hunnia » Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:02 am

Please stop this off-topic crap.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:15 am

Greater Hunnia wrote:Please stop this off-topic crap.

There is no topic since the central premise is false.
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Postby Louis20 » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:27 am

I Agree Good OP

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Postby Greater Hunnia » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:06 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Greater Hunnia wrote:Please stop this off-topic crap.

There is no topic since the central premise is false. I do not agree with what you say so I decided to fuck up this whole thread with the help of other morons such as myself.


Meanwhile in Germany
http://www.n24.de/n24/Nachrichten/Panor ... -aus-.html

"I have applied for this job because it was exactly what I wanted to do. By the time that the confirmation finally arrived in my mailbox, I was looking forward to it like crazy. I finally could not only help in theory, but also really do something practical to help the refugees. I went in high spirits to my first day in the initial reception center. Naturally I was very excited, as one always is on the first working day of a new job… It is certainly truly super here, I thought to myself. In the next few days , I then threw myself totally motivated to work. Which should take place with up to 1,500 refugees who were housed there . I was responsible for their counseling services , should therefore be the contact for all social problems of refugees , support them in their asylum procedure or mooring medical appointments when they needed that ."

"Well, and then the first refugees came to my office. After the first few visits I realized that my very positive and idealistic notion of them and their behavior was very different from the reality. First, if I’m honest, about 90 percent of those who I counselled were unpleasant. First, many of them are extremely demanding. They came to me and demanded that I immediately set them up with an apartment, a fancy car, and a really good job. When I told them this was not possible, they would become loud and very aggressive. An Afghan threatened to kill himself there and then. And a number of Syrians and Afghanis declared that they will go on hunger strike until I’d help them to move to another place. An Arab shouted at another colleague, ‘We behead you!’ Because of these death threats "and other things," she continued, they had to call upon the police for protection "several times a week.""

"Second, the refugees provide inaccurate information all the time. They would come to me and tell a story which did not match their papers. I would check with my colleagues and then I would find out that just the day before, the refugees had been to them with a completely different story. There was, for example, a resident who came to me with a deportation notice addressed to himself. He wanted to know what would happen next. I explained it to him, and then he went away. Soon afterwards, he appeared in front of my colleague, and showed completely new identity documents in a different name. He was then just moved to another camp."

"Thirdly, they rarely stick to appointments. If they ask for doctors such as a dentist or orthopedic surgeon, I make the appointments, but when the time comes, they just don’t show up. This happens so often that the doctors have asked us not to make so many appointments—but what am I supposed to do? I cannot reject the request for an appointment just because I suspect that the applicant will not then appear in time."

"Fourth, and for me, the worst, is that the refugees behave indescribably badly toward women. It is well known that it is primarily single men who come to us—at least 65 or 70 percent. They are still young, only 20 or so, and not more than 25. They simply do not respect women at all. They don’t take us seriously. If I as a woman tell them something or want to take a statement from them, they hardly listen to me at all, or they simply refuse and demand to speak to a male colleague. For us women, they only give contemptuous glances, or are intrusive. After seeing one of us, they will often give a loud whistle, and then call out something in a foreign language, and then they all burst out laughing. This is really very unpleasant. They even photograph us with their cell phones, just like that, without asking, and even if you protest against it. My colleagues have told me that all these things happen to them as well. But, they say, there is nothing to be done. You can only stop doing the job, nothing else. So they ignore it. I tried to do this as well, but it did not work. It has become worse, frankly, because in recent weeks there are more and more men from North Africa, from Morocco, Tunisia, or Libya. They are even more aggressive. I could not ignore it any longer, and I have had to respond. Specifically, this meant I had to start dressing differently. I’m actually someone who likes to sometimes wear close-fitting items—but not anymore—I have to wear loose-fitting pants and always high-necked tops. I hardly use any makeup anymore, and now wear a cowl scarf. And not only did I have to change my outward appearance to protect myself from this harassment, I have also had to alter my behavior. I avoid, for example, going anywhere where there are often large groups of these men. If I have to do anything there, I try to get it over and done with as quickly as possible. But usually I stay in my little office, if possible, even during the day. And I no longer take the train to work or back, because a colleague was followed by some of the men to the metro station and molested in the train. I would like to spare myself that, and therefore I use my car."

She concluded the interview with the admission that she and her colleagues were in all likelihood going to quit rather than stand the abuse any longer.

"I was previously so convinced of the job and of the whole thing in itself, and it is very difficult to admit that it is all so different from what you have imagined. And a resignation [from the job] will be precisely such an admission. But we cannot take it anymore; we cannot bear to see how wrong it all is in here, and that we cannot change it."


One less bleeding-heart liberal do-gooder, I guess.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:08 am

Greater Hunnia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:There is no topic since the central premise is false. I do not agree with what you say so I decided to fuck up this whole thread with the help of other morons such as myself.



You shouldn't call people morons.

Are you having trouble understanding the rules of this forum, or are you just looking to get banned so you can pretend that the liberals are trying to oppress you?

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Postby Nerotysia » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:12 am

So, has there been an actual discussion here at any point in time? Because every time I pop in, all I see are anecdotes coupled with snarky declarations of victory.

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Postby British Prussia » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:18 am

Ifreann wrote:
Greater Hunnia wrote:

You shouldn't call people morons.

Are you having trouble understanding the rules of this forum, or are you just looking to get banned so you can pretend that the liberals are trying to oppress you?

And Conservatives. Voted Tory.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:24 am

Greater Hunnia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:There is no topic since the central premise is false. I do not agree with what you say so I decided to fuck up this whole thread with the help of other morons such as myself.


Meanwhile in Germany
http://www.n24.de/n24/Nachrichten/Panor ... -aus-.html

"I have applied for this job because it was exactly what I wanted to do. By the time that the confirmation finally arrived in my mailbox, I was looking forward to it like crazy. I finally could not only help in theory, but also really do something practical to help the refugees. I went in high spirits to my first day in the initial reception center. Naturally I was very excited, as one always is on the first working day of a new job… It is certainly truly super here, I thought to myself. In the next few days , I then threw myself totally motivated to work. Which should take place with up to 1,500 refugees who were housed there . I was responsible for their counseling services , should therefore be the contact for all social problems of refugees , support them in their asylum procedure or mooring medical appointments when they needed that ."

"Well, and then the first refugees came to my office. After the first few visits I realized that my very positive and idealistic notion of them and their behavior was very different from the reality. First, if I’m honest, about 90 percent of those who I counselled were unpleasant. First, many of them are extremely demanding. They came to me and demanded that I immediately set them up with an apartment, a fancy car, and a really good job. When I told them this was not possible, they would become loud and very aggressive. An Afghan threatened to kill himself there and then. And a number of Syrians and Afghanis declared that they will go on hunger strike until I’d help them to move to another place. An Arab shouted at another colleague, ‘We behead you!’ Because of these death threats "and other things," she continued, they had to call upon the police for protection "several times a week.""

"Second, the refugees provide inaccurate information all the time. They would come to me and tell a story which did not match their papers. I would check with my colleagues and then I would find out that just the day before, the refugees had been to them with a completely different story. There was, for example, a resident who came to me with a deportation notice addressed to himself. He wanted to know what would happen next. I explained it to him, and then he went away. Soon afterwards, he appeared in front of my colleague, and showed completely new identity documents in a different name. He was then just moved to another camp."

"Thirdly, they rarely stick to appointments. If they ask for doctors such as a dentist or orthopedic surgeon, I make the appointments, but when the time comes, they just don’t show up. This happens so often that the doctors have asked us not to make so many appointments—but what am I supposed to do? I cannot reject the request for an appointment just because I suspect that the applicant will not then appear in time."

"Fourth, and for me, the worst, is that the refugees behave indescribably badly toward women. It is well known that it is primarily single men who come to us—at least 65 or 70 percent. They are still young, only 20 or so, and not more than 25. They simply do not respect women at all. They don’t take us seriously. If I as a woman tell them something or want to take a statement from them, they hardly listen to me at all, or they simply refuse and demand to speak to a male colleague. For us women, they only give contemptuous glances, or are intrusive. After seeing one of us, they will often give a loud whistle, and then call out something in a foreign language, and then they all burst out laughing. This is really very unpleasant. They even photograph us with their cell phones, just like that, without asking, and even if you protest against it. My colleagues have told me that all these things happen to them as well. But, they say, there is nothing to be done. You can only stop doing the job, nothing else. So they ignore it. I tried to do this as well, but it did not work. It has become worse, frankly, because in recent weeks there are more and more men from North Africa, from Morocco, Tunisia, or Libya. They are even more aggressive. I could not ignore it any longer, and I have had to respond. Specifically, this meant I had to start dressing differently. I’m actually someone who likes to sometimes wear close-fitting items—but not anymore—I have to wear loose-fitting pants and always high-necked tops. I hardly use any makeup anymore, and now wear a cowl scarf. And not only did I have to change my outward appearance to protect myself from this harassment, I have also had to alter my behavior. I avoid, for example, going anywhere where there are often large groups of these men. If I have to do anything there, I try to get it over and done with as quickly as possible. But usually I stay in my little office, if possible, even during the day. And I no longer take the train to work or back, because a colleague was followed by some of the men to the metro station and molested in the train. I would like to spare myself that, and therefore I use my car."

She concluded the interview with the admission that she and her colleagues were in all likelihood going to quit rather than stand the abuse any longer.

"I was previously so convinced of the job and of the whole thing in itself, and it is very difficult to admit that it is all so different from what you have imagined. And a resignation [from the job] will be precisely such an admission. But we cannot take it anymore; we cannot bear to see how wrong it all is in here, and that we cannot change it."


One less bleeding-heart liberal do-gooder, I guess.

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:54 am

Nerotysia wrote:So, has there been an actual discussion here at any point in time? Because every time I pop in, all I see are anecdotes coupled with snarky declarations of victory.


Kinda like the OP?

I looked up the first video because Breitbart is a shit website.

Snopes has revealed the video is doctored, often showing footage of things that are not the Muslim refugees committing acts of violence.

The second video is easily deduced from the description itself, for crissakes: the man and the woman were being detained by police, and they were both upset because they were not being allowed to continue on their journey, even though they desperately wanted to. In an act of protest, the man pushed his wife onto the train tracks, because if they couldn't be allowed to continue or were deported to Syria, they were as good as dead.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... camps.html

Grater Hunnia is twisting the truth. Like Snopes pointed out, the right wingers think they're "red pilling" when they're really blind as bats to reality, willingly so.
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Postby Kincoboh » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:36 pm

Greater Hunnia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:There is no topic since the central premise is false. I do not agree with what you say so I decided to fuck up this whole thread with the help of other morons such as myself.


Meanwhile in Germany
http://www.n24.de/n24/Nachrichten/Panor ... -aus-.html

"I have applied for this job because it was exactly what I wanted to do. By the time that the confirmation finally arrived in my mailbox, I was looking forward to it like crazy. I finally could not only help in theory, but also really do something practical to help the refugees. I went in high spirits to my first day in the initial reception center. Naturally I was very excited, as one always is on the first working day of a new job… It is certainly truly super here, I thought to myself. In the next few days , I then threw myself totally motivated to work. Which should take place with up to 1,500 refugees who were housed there . I was responsible for their counseling services , should therefore be the contact for all social problems of refugees , support them in their asylum procedure or mooring medical appointments when they needed that ."

"Well, and then the first refugees came to my office. After the first few visits I realized that my very positive and idealistic notion of them and their behavior was very different from the reality. First, if I’m honest, about 90 percent of those who I counselled were unpleasant. First, many of them are extremely demanding. They came to me and demanded that I immediately set them up with an apartment, a fancy car, and a really good job. When I told them this was not possible, they would become loud and very aggressive. An Afghan threatened to kill himself there and then. And a number of Syrians and Afghanis declared that they will go on hunger strike until I’d help them to move to another place. An Arab shouted at another colleague, ‘We behead you!’ Because of these death threats "and other things," she continued, they had to call upon the police for protection "several times a week.""

"Second, the refugees provide inaccurate information all the time. They would come to me and tell a story which did not match their papers. I would check with my colleagues and then I would find out that just the day before, the refugees had been to them with a completely different story. There was, for example, a resident who came to me with a deportation notice addressed to himself. He wanted to know what would happen next. I explained it to him, and then he went away. Soon afterwards, he appeared in front of my colleague, and showed completely new identity documents in a different name. He was then just moved to another camp."

"Thirdly, they rarely stick to appointments. If they ask for doctors such as a dentist or orthopedic surgeon, I make the appointments, but when the time comes, they just don’t show up. This happens so often that the doctors have asked us not to make so many appointments—but what am I supposed to do? I cannot reject the request for an appointment just because I suspect that the applicant will not then appear in time."

"Fourth, and for me, the worst, is that the refugees behave indescribably badly toward women. It is well known that it is primarily single men who come to us—at least 65 or 70 percent. They are still young, only 20 or so, and not more than 25. They simply do not respect women at all. They don’t take us seriously. If I as a woman tell them something or want to take a statement from them, they hardly listen to me at all, or they simply refuse and demand to speak to a male colleague. For us women, they only give contemptuous glances, or are intrusive. After seeing one of us, they will often give a loud whistle, and then call out something in a foreign language, and then they all burst out laughing. This is really very unpleasant. They even photograph us with their cell phones, just like that, without asking, and even if you protest against it. My colleagues have told me that all these things happen to them as well. But, they say, there is nothing to be done. You can only stop doing the job, nothing else. So they ignore it. I tried to do this as well, but it did not work. It has become worse, frankly, because in recent weeks there are more and more men from North Africa, from Morocco, Tunisia, or Libya. They are even more aggressive. I could not ignore it any longer, and I have had to respond. Specifically, this meant I had to start dressing differently. I’m actually someone who likes to sometimes wear close-fitting items—but not anymore—I have to wear loose-fitting pants and always high-necked tops. I hardly use any makeup anymore, and now wear a cowl scarf. And not only did I have to change my outward appearance to protect myself from this harassment, I have also had to alter my behavior. I avoid, for example, going anywhere where there are often large groups of these men. If I have to do anything there, I try to get it over and done with as quickly as possible. But usually I stay in my little office, if possible, even during the day. And I no longer take the train to work or back, because a colleague was followed by some of the men to the metro station and molested in the train. I would like to spare myself that, and therefore I use my car."

She concluded the interview with the admission that she and her colleagues were in all likelihood going to quit rather than stand the abuse any longer.

"I was previously so convinced of the job and of the whole thing in itself, and it is very difficult to admit that it is all so different from what you have imagined. And a resignation [from the job] will be precisely such an admission. But we cannot take it anymore; we cannot bear to see how wrong it all is in here, and that we cannot change it."


One less bleeding-heart liberal do-gooder, I guess.

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Postby Nerotysia » Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:05 am

The Rich Port wrote:Kinda like the OP?

(snip)

I mean that's all true, but I'm talking beyond that. I don't give a fuck about anecdotes captured on YouTube. Has there been any kind of intelligent (or semi-intelligent) analysis, backed by scientific study? Surveys? Statistics? Anything of substance?

Because I haven't seen any. It's all stupid kneejerks.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:44 pm

Nerotysia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Kinda like the OP?

(snip)

I mean that's all true, but I'm talking beyond that. I don't give a fuck about anecdotes captured on YouTube. Has there been any kind of intelligent (or semi-intelligent) analysis, backed by scientific study? Surveys? Statistics? Anything of substance?

Because I haven't seen any. It's all stupid kneejerks.


You don't need evidence to disprove OTHER knee-jerk reactions...

Was my point.

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The Rich Port wrote:You don't need evidence to disprove OTHER knee-jerk reactions...

Was my point.

Of course. I wasn't criticizing you. Really, kneejerks don't even justify serious refutation.

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Nerotysia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:You don't need evidence to disprove OTHER knee-jerk reactions...

Was my point.

Of course. I wasn't criticizing you. Really, kneejerks don't even justify serious refutation.


Oh.

You were being really vague about who was having the knee-jerk reaction first, so I didn't know who you were criticizing XD

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Postby Nerotysia » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:15 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Oh.

You were being really vague about who was having the knee-jerk reaction first, so I didn't know who you were criticizing XD

Well I didn't want to turn my posts into just another ideological attack.

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