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by Gauthier » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:46 am

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by Imperializt Russia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:50 am
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

by Imperializt Russia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:57 am
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

by The Great Devourer of All » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:34 am
Italios wrote:The Great Devourer of All wrote:*peeks to see if Le Pen is behind OP's computer screen*Greater Hunnia wrote:I have seen it with my very own eyes. The so called "refugees", they are not thankfull for the free shelter, free food, free medical care, and even free internet,
Yup, something's definitely afoot. Clearly not everyone is as deserving as Le Pen.
Yymea wrote:We would definitely be scared of what is probably the most scary nation on NS :p
Multiversal Venn-Copard wrote:Actually fairly threatening by our standards. And this time we really mean "threatening". As in, "we'll actually need to escalate significantly to match their fleets."
Valkalan wrote:10/10 Profoundly evil. Some nations conqueror others for wealth and prestige, but the Devourer consumes civilization like a cancer consuming an unfortunate host.
The Speaker wrote:Intemperate in the sea from the roof, and leg All night, and he knows lots of reads from the unseen good old man of the mountain-DESTRUCTION

by The Qeiiam Star Cluster » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:40 am

by Alsheb » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:47 am
The Qeiiam Star Cluster wrote:Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Silly Liriena, Your logic has no power here against the Almighty Argument of JewsDidIt.
Wait, so the corporations and the banks are working together with the commies?

by The Qeiiam Star Cluster » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:48 am

by Imperializt Russia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:49 am
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

by Alsheb » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:57 am

by The Alma Mater » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:31 pm

by Farnhamia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:40 pm
Greater Hunnia wrote:The mockery in your responses is completely irrelevant. As I said, I dare you personally, especially if you are a gay person, to take a walk in the nearest muslim-populated place in your city, if you have one. You will be all right, after all, these rapefugees are normal people just like anyone else...

by The Rich Port » Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:10 pm
Greater Hunnia wrote:The mockery in your responses is completely irrelevant. As I said, I dare you personally, especially if you are a gay person, to take a walk in the nearest muslim-populated place in your city, if you have one. You will be all right, after all, these rapefugees are normal people just like anyone else...

by Liriena » Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:26 pm
Greater Hunnia wrote:Liriena wrote:"Cultural Marxism", on the other hand, is pretty vacuous, in light of the fact that the works of the Frankfurt School, the people most regularly accused by reactionaries of creating "cultural Marxism", never really proposed any sort of evil Marxist conspiracy to destroy Western civilization through gayness, crossdressing in primary schools and white genocide.
In practice, cultural marxism is that leftist, liberal, marxist """""""""""intellectuals""""""""""" indoctrinate impressionable, young people, and crate a brainwashed minority who feel entitled to dictate the way of life to society as a whole. The said entitled minority is enjoying the support of globalist capitalists such as George Soros, and with the media, and scientific institutions under their absolute controll, they can easily character assassinate anyone who poses a threat to them, fake statistics and even scientific researches to support their narrative, and censor those that don't. Later these indoctrinated people train the next generation and so the cycle starts anew. And the saddest part is that a bunch of people who take part in this are just overly naive do-gooders who are unable to realise that while they think that they are fighting agaisnt oppression, they are actually oppressors themselves, and they somehow think that destorying the pillairs on which society was built is somehow good.
You say cultural marxism is bullshit. I wish it was. But unfortunately, reality shows that it's not. The same can't be said about most liberal theories.
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by The Rich Port » Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:38 pm
Greater Hunnia wrote:Liriena wrote:"Cultural Marxism", on the other hand, is pretty vacuous, in light of the fact that the works of the Frankfurt School, the people most regularly accused by reactionaries of creating "cultural Marxism", never really proposed any sort of evil Marxist conspiracy to destroy Western civilization through gayness, crossdressing in primary schools and white genocide.
In practice, cultural marxism is that leftist, liberal, marxist """""""""""intellectuals""""""""""" indoctrinate impressionable, young people, and crate a brainwashed minority who feel entitled to dictate the way of life to society as a whole. The said entitled minority is enjoying the support of globalist capitalists such as George Soros, and with the media, and scientific institutions under their absolute controll, they can easily character assassinate anyone who poses a threat to them, fake statistics and even scientific researches to support their narrative, and censor those that don't. Later these indoctrinated people train the next generation and so the cycle starts anew. And the saddest part is that a bunch of people who take part in this are just overly naive do-gooders who are unable to realise that while they think that they are fighting agaisnt oppression, they are actually oppressors themselves, and they somehow think that destorying the pillairs on which society was built is somehow good.
You say cultural marxism is bullshit. I wish it was. But unfortunately, reality shows that it's not. The same can't be said about most liberal theories.

by Legitimists » Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:43 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Greater Hunnia wrote:
In practice, cultural marxism is that leftist, liberal, marxist """""""""""intellectuals""""""""""" indoctrinate impressionable, young people, and crate a brainwashed minority who feel entitled to dictate the way of life to society as a whole. The said entitled minority is enjoying the support of globalist capitalists such as George Soros, and with the media, and scientific institutions under their absolute controll, they can easily character assassinate anyone who poses a threat to them, fake statistics and even scientific researches to support their narrative, and censor those that don't. Later these indoctrinated people train the next generation and so the cycle starts anew. And the saddest part is that a bunch of people who take part in this are just overly naive do-gooders who are unable to realise that while they think that they are fighting agaisnt oppression, they are actually oppressors themselves, and they somehow think that destorying the pillairs on which society was built is somehow good.
You say cultural marxism is bullshit. I wish it was. But unfortunately, reality shows that it's not. The same can't be said about most liberal theories.
Sounds like a church or a religion.
I'm an atheist and believe in neither.
Ah, but seriously, what's so bad about "cultural marxism" if the culture you're getting rid of are things like racism, sexism, a disrespect for education and the glorification of ignorance, and discrimination against foreigners and other people deemed as "dangerous" for no good reason?
If there's anybody who's the real "cultural marxists" it's traditionalists, who actually have destroyed past cultures in order to institute their own and are protective of them simply because they've existed for so long and because it's theirs as opposed to someone else's traditions.

by The Rich Port » Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:51 pm
Legitimists wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
Sounds like a church or a religion.
I'm an atheist and believe in neither.
Ah, but seriously, what's so bad about "cultural marxism" if the culture you're getting rid of are things like racism, sexism, a disrespect for education and the glorification of ignorance, and discrimination against foreigners and other people deemed as "dangerous" for no good reason?
If there's anybody who's the real "cultural marxists" it's traditionalists, who actually have destroyed past cultures in order to institute their own and are protective of them simply because they've existed for so long and because it's theirs as opposed to someone else's traditions.
Nothing except the tactics used by those who support such things can dip rather to close to straight up strong-arming for my liking. Examples may include university judicial systems, speech codes, the limiting of academic viewpoints and a rather Herbatist flair for denunciation

by Legitimists » Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:01 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Legitimists wrote:
Nothing except the tactics used by those who support such things can dip rather to close to straight up strong-arming for my liking. Examples may include university judicial systems, speech codes, the limiting of academic viewpoints and a rather Herbatist flair for denunciation
... Again, no different from traditional right-wing institutions.
Churches don't often allow people they consider heretics or apostates to preach freely.
The difference between a church and a university, however, is EVIDENCE.
If you have proof for something, you can argue it in a university, and if enough people think it's good, you can make a lot of money out of it, even if there's people that disagree with you. You can't disagree with things that are firmly established with flawless methodology.
Sure, it may work that way in a church, but it's extremely rare, people converting because someone managed to prove something about their religion was true as opposed to the usual battle of rhetoric and theology and differences in opinion.
Scientists and scholars don't work on opinion... Except for philosophers, who sometimes specialize in theology. Like Christopher Hitchens!

by The Rich Port » Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:21 pm
Legitimists wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
... Again, no different from traditional right-wing institutions.
Churches don't often allow people they consider heretics or apostates to preach freely.
The difference between a church and a university, however, is EVIDENCE.
If you have proof for something, you can argue it in a university, and if enough people think it's good, you can make a lot of money out of it, even if there's people that disagree with you. You can't disagree with things that are firmly established with flawless methodology.
Sure, it may work that way in a church, but it's extremely rare, people converting because someone managed to prove something about their religion was true as opposed to the usual battle of rhetoric and theology and differences in opinion.
Scientists and scholars don't work on opinion... Except for philosophers, who sometimes specialize in theology. Like Christopher Hitchens!
Well I really wasn't talking about the Natural Sciences, being pretty non-religious myself I don't particularly have reason to doubt the contemporary scientific consensus; nor do I take very much offence to the disrespect given to 'crank' theories like Gene Ray's time cube. No I'm talking about the institution of ideas and the silencing of opinions, not often by university staff themselves but by student activists in their rather Jacobin haste to reform the evils in our society. I'm talking about matters such as the recent Yale protests in Massachusetts where students told a university master that his job was to make students feel comfortable, rather than to provide an academic environment. I'm talking about a recent time when a visiting conservative professor to one university or another was drowned out by the Internationale so the lecture could not be conducted. Or when Buckley scholars where spat upon. Now the Right has it's fair share of violence, much publicized but the left needs to be held accountable for it's own actions, if they want to build an egalitarian in outcome (which I disagree with) and non-violent (which I support) society. They need to start living into their commitment to non-violence.

by The Rich Port » Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:30 pm

by Baltenstein » Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:32 pm

by The Rich Port » Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:34 pm
Baltenstein wrote:Okay, this whole "Oy vey" thing has stopped being funny a couple of posts ago.
It is especially unfunny in the context of this topic, because a large part of the new arrivals really do hold such beliefs.

by Baltenstein » Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:35 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Baltenstein wrote:Okay, this whole "Oy vey" thing has stopped being funny a couple of posts ago.
It is especially unfunny in the context of this topic, because a large part of the new arrivals really do hold such beliefs.
Kinda like how Christians don't wear mixed garments, don't murder and give most of their wealth to charity because the Bible tells them so?

by Legitimists » Sun Jan 17, 2016 4:36 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Legitimists wrote:
Well I really wasn't talking about the Natural Sciences, being pretty non-religious myself I don't particularly have reason to doubt the contemporary scientific consensus; nor do I take very much offence to the disrespect given to 'crank' theories like Gene Ray's time cube. No I'm talking about the institution of ideas and the silencing of opinions, not often by university staff themselves but by student activists in their rather Jacobin haste to reform the evils in our society. I'm talking about matters such as the recent Yale protests in Massachusetts where students told a university master that his job was to make students feel comfortable, rather than to provide an academic environment. I'm talking about a recent time when a visiting conservative professor to one university or another was drowned out by the Internationale so the lecture could not be conducted. Or when Buckley scholars where spat upon. Now the Right has it's fair share of violence, much publicized but the left needs to be held accountable for it's own actions, if they want to build an egalitarian in outcome (which I disagree with) and non-violent (which I support) society. They need to start living into their commitment to non-violence.
Sure, that sounds harsh.
I've never run across such an instance occurring, though, and I've never heard of that. Then again, I live in the bumfuck end of Florida where nothing much interesting happens except crime and car accidents.
And the masters, whether they like it or not, really do have to cater to students... It's always been that way, really. It's just that students used to not be told, nor did they realize it until recently. And really, good students respect intelligence and wisdom, don't matter where it's coming from and what it is. My guess is, the master is as much at fault as the students. Same with the professor. Same with the scholars.
Students don't appreciate bias, don't matter whether it's from the left or right, and especially if the person lecturing them doesn't admit where their errors lie and if they didn't appreciate the students' criticisms.
Though, to be fair, sometimes students get stupid with their demands.
I remember one time some uppity lady didn't seem to like our professor's lecture (to be fair, it was about his experiences as a sensual masseuse, but it was related to the class... It was about sexuality, for fuck's sake). She and the professor got in a shouting match when she wasn't satisfied with the professor's obvious explanation (it's a class where we studied fucking human sexuality). I can see where she was coming from, but she was in the wrong, ultimately. Most likely, she just didn't like hearing about the very informative sexual experiences of a kindly, massively intelligent, if sometimes curmudgeonly, old man.
Scholarship in general revolves around doubt. Nothing is ever concrete unless it proves itself to be concrete. The students that drowned out the lecturer with The Internationale, for example... If there were so many students there that it would have been pointless to remove them because then there wouldn't be anybody at the assembly... Yeah, that's his fault. He was obviously somewhere where his opinions were obviously not agreed with, and/or his opinions aren't popular in general. You expect that in universities. The only respect is for the truth, and if people feel you're lying to them, they will be negative about it. It's quite possible they started singing The Internationale sarcastically. Was the guy an anti-Communist or an anti-leftist?
You got links for these incidents?
... Not that I don't trust you. I don't trust anyone, really. I like to hear both sides of the story before coming to conclusions.
Also... The right-wing is nowhere near as renowned as the left for doubting anything or being curious about anything. So, sorta makes sense the universities got "taken over" by them.
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